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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 211745 times)

Offline forest

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2325 on: March 17, 2019, 02:35:38 PM »
I agree Zenneck waves exists but misconception is it's radio waves.
Tesla knew about theoretical explanation of this kind of waves and this is what
we should investigate first. However the notion that it's an explanation of free energy is far from truth.
Free energy is much more simple.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2019, 06:09:14 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2326 on: March 17, 2019, 06:18:16 PM »
I agree Zenneck waves exists but misconception is it's radio waves.
Tesla knew about theoretical explanation of this kind of waves and this is what
we should investigate first. However the notion that it's an explanation of free energy is far from truth.
Free energy is much more simple.
Not only Tesla but Marconi  in 1918 in Bolinas California have been trying to do that what Viziv is doing.
Till RCA with Government  shut Marconi's project down in 1921.
So what I'm doing  is  fallowing Tesla and Marconi steps.
I'm investigating  the phenomena.
TEM Electromagnetic waves  can be polarized  in TM  or TE mode.
I do not see any misconception here.
Free Energy  is much more simple 
If you can share you opinion in this area  it will be interesting.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2327 on: March 17, 2019, 06:51:32 PM »
Wesley,

I think the S parameters are important especially if one is trying to determine Brewster angle or whatever proper terminology is for Z wave.
Well lets see if the unit I purchased works on arrival before looking at other options,
Agilent 89441A

however this would likely be a good option if not:

https://store.siglentamerica.com/product/sva1015x/

Thank you for the info on the standards parts.  I am interested in what you think about probes or using SNA cables and adapter, highest and best use connecting DUT?

Brake lines messed with, besides being underhanded evil that is downright lacking in class and taste.  I think that Keshe guy is also a main suppression agent for them or else he would not be able to freely rip people off, he did the same thing to his own worker and this mans gf.  I guess if one wants to be a con man then simply sell OU bullshit.  Like world improvement ministries guy with a rap sheet of cons going back years.   I think they find these scammers and then somehow use them to data mine so everyone who has the answer or is close should take heed.

Had you known what you know now maybe you would not have put your neck out for everyone's benefit but then again it can only be accepted as evidence of success.
When books are burned or other data is censored or buried, this is predominantly for one reason.

If someone here wants to think empirically and wind some coils and attempt some actual bench work; like so many of the amazing people at this site then great, if not comments should be reserved and respectful from the theoretical thinkers who have not yet ventured into the lab.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2327 on: March 17, 2019, 06:51:32 PM »
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Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2328 on: March 17, 2019, 07:23:16 PM »
Dear mkjekyll:
I will be  glad  to have Tesla's landsman here in USA some time in the future.

The very concept of "scientific truth" can only represent a social construction
invented by scientists (whether consciously or not)
as a device to justify their hegemony over the study of nature.
 — Stephen Jay Gould,                Science,                14 Jan. 2000     
 

 
Wesley
« Last Edit: March 17, 2019, 11:36:13 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2329 on: March 17, 2019, 08:25:29 PM »
Dear mkjekyll:
Quote
I think the S parameters are important especially if one is trying to determine Brewster angle
Yes it helps.
It is visual representation serving as a footprint needed to repeat phenomena of  surface wave once achieved .
Brewster angle is geometrical  representation of  polarization angle)  an angle of incidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_angle
Once you  have screenshot of  VNA  S parameter and few other measurements , you can replicate phenomena with smile on your face.   

The SVA1015X  is interesting but again  think twice.
https://store.siglentamerica.com/product/sva1015x/
options cost you another $ 2000 and you do not know how "fast" is  "display." ( processing)
it looks  quite slow here: https://youtu.be/XYLyDaKwpsk?t=24
Compared  with my 20 years old  R3754B  it is 100 times slower.
But again look at all of futures of the two price wise:
 R3754B US $2,495.00
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Advantest-R3754B-10-kHz-to-150-MHz-Network-Analyzer/401627941816?epid=1922609075&hash=item5d82e40bb8:g:1KAAAOSw-pNb3Gbw
SVA1015X US $1,395.00
+Vector Analyzer option, S11, S21 ( 10 MHz – 1.5 GHz)    ($609.00)  useless.
+EMI Measurement option ($449.00)
+ Mechanical Calibration Kit (includes short, open, 50 ohm termination) ($389.00)
= $2842.00

Here you have retail price $3895 fom EEV blog.And VNA option is optional.
EEVblog #1101 - Siglent SVA1015X VNA Teardown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxBcQDooAYs

Limitation of VNA and calibration  kit.
https://youtu.be/HxBcQDooAYs?t=2722

This is interesting for you guys.

https://youtu.be/HxBcQDooAYs?t=3047

so for us it is not only useless, but to expensive.


Wesley
« Last Edit: March 17, 2019, 10:40:15 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2330 on: March 17, 2019, 10:08:39 PM »
VNA uses directional  coupler so if you do not have VNA
but NA you are not is bad situation at all.
So it is must know it and must have it for many applications.!!!!!

#158: Directional Coupler Basics & how to sweep SWR of an antenna | Return Loss | VSWR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBK9ZIx9YaY
Used directional couplers  you can get for 1 to 5 dollars or less from hamfests, or other similar places.   

I know that it sounds crazy to some of you but, don't worry about lower  range written on of them.
typical Directional  Coupler works from  above DC up  .
Just do not listen to anyone.
Try it.


Wesley.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2331 on: March 18, 2019, 12:34:53 AM »
Dear Void.
When I look at other parts of this  forum at guys
playing with  all of these coils and electronics for 14 years now I see
money spend, and there is no  result.
Nobody  presented real device including you dear Void.

Quote of Void:
 At Forum: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY( this is not all text of his comment, so is someone is interested  go there and read it)
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//he has demonstrated nothing of the kind that I have seen,
and his hypothesis he has been putting forward seems to be completely disjointed and missing key connecting
components, and really just does not seem to make much sense overall when you compare to what Kapanadze was doing//
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//I think Wesley maybe needs to take a break from this whole free energy//


Wesley's answer:
If you are wrong nothing happens, and nobody cares I assume.
If I'm wrong, than Viziv, PhD J.Corum, Surface Wave Science, is wrong, and that's billions  dollars of losses.   
And that is the difference between you and me Void.


You made me feel like a trouble maker. 
Work of  forum guys  got  them nowhere  near FE.

And yet  nobody ask them to take break from FE.
But you did.!!!!!!

I have  my own explanation
Can I be wrong?
Yes ..
..so what ?

..they have no other option anyhow.. right?
They never had any explanation ever.
So How about if I'm right!!!?
At least something, better than nothing ...
The effect is what counts.
Modern tools, other ways of understanding  may help.
However  joy, knowledge, and hunting can be real pleasure  worth a lot.

People may ask me about  my  progress after all of this  years
I have answer for that too.


Wesley

PS: I do thank you Void for your opinion expressed  on  Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
Everything is education  your post  is too.
Theoretically You can not exclude that I might be right in other (mentioned by you) aspects too, my dear Void.?

So How about if I'm right ?
Are you willing to take stand?
rather than, making some noise?

« Last Edit: March 18, 2019, 11:33:06 AM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2332 on: March 18, 2019, 03:20:19 AM »
Hi Wesley my friend. I will concede that you may be right about at least some
of your hypotheses, but it seems to me Kapanadze's coil devices are not drawing
on surface waves for their quite substantial extra energy. I am still more inclined to think that if
Kapanadze's devices really work as he as demonstrated, that the energy is coming from an as yet
not well understood, or not currently understood at all, source of energy. I would be happy if you would
prove me wrong however. :-) All the best...


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2333 on: March 18, 2019, 04:02:52 AM »
Void I  might prove you wrong in area  of  energy transfer.
But  it would not be good for me if you are wrong in other part of your previous comment.
With all do respect Void you are not me.


My dear Void   
I WAS THERE.

Here is  a prove:https://youtu.be/W4GS1AAmGLo
recorded in real time inside the airplane .
Stanley Meyer was acting exactly like me till March 21 1998.
He was manifesting energy transfer,and proving some guys wrong.
If you compare personality you rather see him and Tariel Kapanadze.
as two, not scientifically savvy individuals .
They just did it, and that does not require to be smart it is just some luck,
and some practice, for average Joe.
But that's my take on it.

So what is the point I make?
..
.EXPOSURE.... is what made all trouble.
and you asking me to prove you wrong.
I must first to find "how much  sense it makes to me.."
than I need to find "where.."
than I need to know "when..."


Wesley
« Last Edit: March 18, 2019, 01:35:37 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2334 on: March 18, 2019, 04:40:41 AM »

“Those who know don’t talk. Those who talk don’t know. Close your mouth, block off your senses, blunt your sharpness, untie your knots, soften your glare, settle your dust. This is the primal identity. Be like the Tao. It can’t be approached or withdrawn from, benefited or harmed, honored or brought into disgrace. It gives itself up continually. That is why it endures.”

― Tao Te Ching

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2335 on: March 18, 2019, 04:59:41 AM »
Hi Wesley, it is possible, I was not there. but one should not be too quick to rule out a more plausible explanation either.
I knew someone who went to that part of the world, (former Soviet Union), for a vacation some time ago, and they ended up
coming down with severe food poisoning. They ended up in the hospital for a good part of their vacation. It does happen sometimes.
If they are so ruthless. and If they want Kapanadze gone, why didn't they bump him off a long time ago now?
Why have they not gone after Ruslan? As far as I know, they haven't bothered him.
I didn't ask you to prove me wrong. I said I would be happy if you would prove me wrong, however. :)
I did not intend to argue. Just express my point of view. You can consider my point of view, or not.
That is totally up to you. All the best...

mkjekyll: Think about it. It is just more words in the sea of words. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2336 on: March 18, 2019, 09:12:37 AM »
Words, sentences, ideas, speculations...
Guys, your believe in Free Energy is like searching for UFO or something like Spiritual Radio
ghost hunt. It is not the way. Here is only 2 options. Kapanadze is real or he is David Copperfield.
I reading your ideas and Wesleys sheets of theorys, opinions, options of Saving The World theories...


I will do the same. I will try to explain how to fake Kapanadzes trick to make it "real".
5kW? All we know is 20A "from water pipe". Before no Amps on Pipe, after 20A in/from pipe.
Ideal power! No smell of ozon! Relay click from start(9V battery start). 50Hz. Stable work.


Now, just think! Use your brains!
P.S. In old days, there was very "big noice" about Induction heating like Free Energy source.
We go to the one person from Latvia(our team), to investigate that. He was one of first who start
experimenting with HiFrequency 20-40kHz 220V Currents. We notice miracle moments, shocking
discoveries and MASIV HEAT SOURCE from 1kW Induction heater!, if we use Ground and 20
halogen lamps connected in series!!! In Russia, there is one at least who use that trick to heat his home.


There must be some trick!!!!
I am 100% sure.


When we use our Oscilloscope with load, we find only 92% efficiency of Induction heater oven...


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2337 on: March 18, 2019, 09:45:06 AM »
Shocking-effect. ?
Hello Ansis,

It would be no wonder if we estipulate these claims by 50 Hz net-grid frequency x HF-factor : 

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2004100349A1/en 

Voltage dividing by frequency changes and possible claimed results, " Example 1"
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5130608A/en

"Using Ohm's Law"  for the theory and compare with reality  !


wmbr
OCWL

p.s. : pulse power / Usherenko-effect
p.s. II : for all household heating appliances usefull , hot water and cooking related

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2338 on: March 18, 2019, 09:54:00 AM »
Yes.
Shocking effect was discovered when load with non isolated wires was merged into water
with naked hands and we see no short circuit and we see light and we where not electricuted at all.
Next shock was wire diameter.
0.5 mm wire was enogh to transfer energy to long distances!, without looses!!!
It means, if Kapanarze use Energy Transver, he uses 20-300kHz fake "water pipe".

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2339 on: March 18, 2019, 10:55:31 AM »
And yes, Kapanadze was in Latvia for 3 month!
And what?
Nothing.
He spend 20 000 Lats(currency) make health procedures in Linezers hospital and go home!
Why no results?
Because of no possibility to fake that "device".
All guys ask him, to give directions, materials to search for his MAGIC to come true!
Nothing.
It is "black box".
If peoples are lying to others, than that is only FOR MONEY!!!

 

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