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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1131697 times)

magnetstoo

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2280 on: December 05, 2022, 07:30:02 PM »
Mr. Wesley...Sergey Panov showed the  "Fish Pattern" in Ruslan Kalabuov device,and said to inject your signal there. Here are some screen shots with the "fish pattern" from my device using 48MHz instead of 20 Kv.. I find Hv and Hf have similiar properties in that they both migrate, penetrate,and carry much energy as per Don Smith.
I had to colour enhance these to bring out the detail because the lighter colours started blending with the white.
Anyway ch1 is the home gnd.....ch2 is the outside gnd...the center shows the channel(s) MATH,
2 pictures show (center) a Fourier Analysis-1 picture  for ch1 and 1 for ch2...Since Im using coil pickups the inputs are low volt and the scale is 200mv/div.
The third picture--you cant miss it---center shows ch1 / ch2 at which point I had to increase its scale to 1 volt.It shows a voltage swing of ~8:1 relative to ch1 and ch2...If you draw a line from ch1 to ch2 you will see about 20 deg offset p-p.
This is what Im trying to do, resonate it out of the ground,and control that offset and see what max I can get out of it.But adjusting a 48MHz signal obviously is not easy with the rf migration and rf losses and its attachments to objects.
Also,this Hantek scope does not have the resolution the PCSU1000 had,... but it does capture random screens like these because it does not "pause". .Very little operating instructions and no "Spectrum Analyzer" screen like the PCSU though it does have selectable data that is quick.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2281 on: December 26, 2022, 03:11:56 AM »
For example, does a radio signal propagate outwards or does it disturb a medium
AC
Radio waves are electromagnetic waves. Electromagnetic waves differ from mechanical waves in that they do not require a medium to propagate.
https://www.quora.com/Do-radio-waves-require-a-medium-to-travel
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2282 on: December 26, 2022, 03:20:38 PM »
Hi stivep,
Satellite as you already knew with the main component magnetron which the electron velocity is accelerated without the need for "Earth grounding" or counterpoise.If there was Earth grounding involved as the requirement i would not be interested in the kapanadze device a long time ago.
Eric dollard device is a negative-resistance device because of the counter winding which reduce the resistance of the entire winding by "half" if measured from end to end.

Too bad the scope merely reveal flat 2d waveform.It is difficult for many to understand how "electrons" movement create the electromagnetic fields.

Electrons are slow down by "resistance" but electrons can also be accelerated by "negative resistance"  :D

  People have seen  ring-down waveform many times but they were not shown/explained clearly why the amplitude is decreasing over time.Answer is revealed in the above sentence.

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If anyone of you have seen ring-down waveform it is because of "resistance" created by one continuous winding.
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People need to understand almost all the elementary formulas eg:V/I, V/R and many etc were derived from actual experiments before the formula even existed.I hope you understand what i am trying to convey.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2284 on: December 26, 2022, 08:36:18 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPkIH9G6Iw
magician knows his tricks.
It is a commercial. A Russian Man in goggles and gas mask
 naming a price for it of a €10,000.



Wesley
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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2285 on: December 27, 2022, 12:04:23 AM »
Hi stivep,
Satellite as you already knew with the main component magnetron which the electron velocity is accelerated without the need for "Earth grounding" or counterpoise.
Satellites operates in microwave region of frequency range.
AM broadcasting stations operates at LF or VLF frequency range.
and dish antenna is a parabolic reflector not the quarter wave dipole
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The subject of video in question was telluric current .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8zoEMkuqiQ
The statement in the video was claiming involvement of the telluric current as a primary mechanism
of receiving local AM radio station  of about 2.5 kW power PRP.
 Experimenter used:
1. a conductor (wire) immersed in the water from the lake.( basin, River)as an antenna connected to ham radio transceiver.
and then:
2. coil serving as an antenna connected to inner  of the  of   Rx/Tx PL 259 connector of a ham radio transceiver, while shield
(the outer part of  PL 259 was connected to the ground  immersed in the water from the lake.
https://www.arcantenna.com/blogs/news/uhf-pl259-so239-what-is-the-difference
That  made a traditional vertical dipole configuration.
( look at the position- of the coil that is vertically polarized.
It means:
 vertical piece of wire was coiled to take less of a vertical  height
  like car antenna)

The  AM band is covering width  in the range of 500 kHz up to ~ 2 megahertz
https://www.dxing.com/amband.htm
The video content maker,:
-failed to explain the interaction of electromagnetic wave at frequency of ~500 kHz with the telluric current  at the depth of
~1-5 m,. 
-failed to explain what role in the process of receiving signal the telluric current has there?
telluric  current phenomena – has not much to do with ground wave reception.
Local AM radio station transmitted signal  - has nothing to do with telluric current,

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If there was Earth grounding involved as the requirement i would not be interested in the kapanadze device a long time ago.
https://www.eeeguide.com/effects-of-ground-on-antenna-performance/
https://mfjenterprises.com/products/mfj-931

at 20th floor of the building artificial ground works as well.
Think about ground and artificial ground as a balance or counterpoise
and as a part of antenna radiative system.
https://ham.stackexchange.com/questions/21300/what-balance-radials-or-counterpoise-do-i-need-for-a-vertical-hamstick-as-a-st

Wesley
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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2286 on: December 27, 2022, 10:54:48 PM »
This is why I don't care who said what or how they said it. I only look at whether something is reasonable, reflects the reality of a given situation and is free of contradictions.
AC
I agree that you don't care and that you don't know.
I agree that you have a rights to your point of view.
We are standing at a certain level of scientific achievement, and my response is based on its statements for today.
We know that mechanical waves can't exist without a medium!
Based on science we know that electromagnetic wave doesn't need any medium to travel.
https://science.nasa.gov/ems/02_anatomy

This energy can be described by frequency, wavelength, or energy.
Electromagnetic waves are produced due to the timely change in the electric and magnetic fields and depending on the periodic change power is generated in the field.
- as a result of vibrations between an electric field and a magnetic field.
Electromagnetic waves do not require a medium such as air, so they can transfer energy through vacuum, or empty space.
In a vacuum, all electromagnetic waves travel at 3 × 10 8 m s − 1 – the fastest speed possible.
https://socratic.org/questions/what-type-of-wave-does-not-need-a-medium-to-transfer-its-energy
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2287 on: December 28, 2022, 12:01:32 PM »
"Similar phenomena were noted, greatly magnified in intensity, but they were susceptible of a different and more plausible explanation. I considered this so important that in 1892 I went to Bonn, Germany, to confer with Dr. Hertz in regard to my observations. He seemed disappointed to such a degree that I re- gretted my trip and parted from him sor- rowfully. During the succeeding years I made numerous experiments with the same object, but the results were uniformly nega- tive. In 1900, however, after I had evolved a wireless transmitter which enabled me to obtain electro-magnetic activities of many millions of horse-power, I made a last des- perate attempt to prove that the disturb- ances emanating from the oscillator were ether vibrations akin to those of light, but met again with utter failure. For more than eighteen years I have been reading treat- ises, reports of scientific transactions, and articles on Hertz-wave telegraphy, to keep myself informed. but they have always im- prest me like works of fiction.
The history of science shows that theo- ries are perishable. With every new truth that is revealed we get a better under- standing of Nature and our conceptions and views are modified. Dr. Hertz did not discover a new principle...."

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2288 on: December 28, 2022, 12:31:07 PM »
This energy can be described by frequency, wavelength, or energy.
Wesley
Why, then, does a quantum of infrared radiation heat body up when absorbed, for example, by a completely black body more than the same quantum of ultraviolet ?
The energy of the ultraviolet quantum should be many times greater.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2289 on: December 28, 2022, 03:28:23 PM »
Why, then, does a quantum of infrared radiation heat body up when absorbed, for example, by a completely black body more than the same quantum of ultraviolet ?
The energy of the ultraviolet quantum should be many times greater.

One UV  (ultraviolet) photon has more energy than one IR  (infrared) photon.
https://www.quora.com/Radiation-Which-carries-more-energy-infrared-or-ultraviolet-How

probably the confusing factor for you is that you take big number of infrared photons
and trying to compare it with one photon of ultraviolet.
The higher is the frequency, / the shorter is the wavelength  the more energy per  period is there.
so one photon of gamma ray  has more energy per period then one ultraviolet  photon .

That explains why electromagnetic waves below the range of visible light are harmless to a human body.
Because they have very little energy per period.
However you need also to understand the intensity. at the given point( distance) from the radiation source (e.g antenna)
it was clearly visible at antennas of Russian radio location systems(radars)
example:
if a soldier was fixing something in the middle of an antenna dish of Russian  "Zoska"  or "Natasha" operating at only few hundred megahertz frequency band.
and the other one accidentally switched ON the power than this soldier on the antenna was simply cooked.
but because of inverse square law if he was 10 feet away he had a very much guaranteed
survival.
Another factor is length of exposure. it can be compared with "cooking" the water where it takes time before water is boiling.
I hope it helps.



Wesley.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2290 on: December 29, 2022, 08:02:25 PM »
in regards to:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg572453/#msg572453
it is time to say more about the achievement that made possible to receive more energy from the device that was
delivered to the device.
It has nothing to do with overunity as  overunity doesn't exist .
However for some of you it is strange that you can deliver 100 W and receive 250 W or more.
Translated to the cost of energy it would be invested 100% of the money and right after a nanosecond you got 250% back.
It is explained here:
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.6.2.20210817a/full/
https://youtu.be/BzSI2cz1Aag?t=29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ys9P_1TgEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCxdD4ZoWs

in the next comment I will try to go deeper into it, and say more about the technicality of the process.
This process could be also done in the small lab.
actually it was done at some researchers homes with minor difference.
So they saw the glowing matter suspended in the middle, but the material was not that what makes the difference.
Temperatures are translated to the size of specimen,
so the amount of power delivered to 1000 times smaller specimen can be 1000 times smaller, but the effect would be there.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2291 on: December 29, 2022, 11:24:25 PM »
Wes one comment ,
 "dr. Tadić: This is good news, but we have to wait for the complete results
dr. sc. Tonči Tadić, head of Croatian fusion activities within the EUROfusion consortium and president of the Council of the European project DONES-PreP, tells us that we should be careful when interpreting the results, that is, wait for the full report.

- This is certainly a nice and good news for everyone. This is about inertial fusion, where a miniature capsule is taken and fired with lasers. Although in this experiment they got 2.5 MJ of energy after using 2.1 MJ for heating, no one here says how much energy was used for pumping the laser, which can turn out to be more than 2.1 MJ - explains Dr. Tadić .

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« Reply #2292 on: December 30, 2022, 02:27:08 PM »
Wes one comment ,
 "dr. Tadić: This is good news, but we have to wait for the complete results
dr. sc. Tonči Tadić, head of Croatian fusion activities within the EUROfusion consortium and president of the Council of the European project DONES-PreP, tells us that we should be careful when interpreting the results, that is, wait for the full report.

- This is certainly a nice and good news for everyone. This is about inertial fusion, where a miniature capsule is taken and fired with lasers. Although in this experiment they got 2.5 MJ of energy after using 2.1 MJ for heating, no one here says how much energy was used for pumping the laser, which can turn out to be more than 2.1 MJ - explains Dr. Tadić .

Tonči Tadić, is very much respected scientist but
the above quote was taken from: WebG3
scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/
In physics accuracy and detail matters:
writes the Guardian.
but the information about the guardian is served to us by
WebG3 that  is  at the same time "
nonprofit, ships containers, converts steel shipping containers into medical clinics   
creates medical grade maternal health facilities in Kenya 
G3Box,  (receives about 45 unique visitors per day, and it is ranked 5,142,314 in the world.)

in other words we dealing with some source quoting another source about somebody else achievement or activity.
and then dozens of less important forces are quoting the secondary sources editing and editing their own interpretation.
Did you get the picture?



The gain achieved by scientists was 150% in plus.
that means they delivered 100% of of power and they  gained 150% making it total ~ 250% after less than ~1 ns.
And even here  in this point we have a problem for a average reader:
was it 1 ns or it was 1 ps or it was 1 femtosecond

it is a normal material that  disintegrates in temperatures not much more  and around 2000's degrees of centigrade.
it is important to remember inverse square law.
It is important to remember time frame of incident pulse known also as time of exposure

example:
If transparency  to the source of heat  of the envelope holding the specimen is good enough,
Then it is a specimen that is heated more than the envelope, by external source (example laser)
The specimen is re-radiating back the heat, to the walls of the envelope, according to inverse square law, and it takes a time
it takes also a time before it reaches the walls of the envelope, that are partially heat  transparent .
Part of that energy from the specimen, is radiated in form of x-rays.
those x-rays are transparent to the walls of the envelope.
That makes the envelope more survival  to melting.


an example of quote that was quoting a quote:
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Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory managed to produce more energy with fusion than they invested,
 according to the first results of an experiment that can be a turning point in the way we get energy.
Scientists have been dealing with the problem of nuclear fusion and how it would be possible to
release excess energy in relation to the investment since the 1950s, and these results, if confirmed,
 will have historical significance.
http://observatorial.com/news/technology-and-science/245835/scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/
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summary:

the goal was to suspend the specimen in the vacuum
-were the distance to the walls of the material holding it is (according to the inverse square law)
 long enough for that material to survive  the pulse heating the specimen.
 (the pulse time-frame)
 
-melting takes time and the pulse is heating much faster the specimen to fusion temperature

- then specimen ignites releasing more energy than was delivered to it in the process  of fusion.
  then it must be cooling time for the specimen envelope material, avoiding its disintegration.
  And then we are ready to repeat the process.,

It is important to remember that the amount of energy delivered is directly proportional to the size of specimen
So small labs or very small labs can achieve the effect as well.

I think the next important is for me to comment the  forms of suspension of a specimen
 in the vacuum with and without any  capsule.


In other words:

How can you suspend the plasma "in the middle of "nowhere" but
this "nowhere" is exactly where we want that "nowhere" to be.

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2293 on: December 30, 2022, 03:47:48 PM »
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what you think about approach of this company ?

Avalanche Energy
https://www.avalanche.energy/about.html
https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion
I know nothing about them yet.
I may think, . Nicely made commercial site is:
– not saying too much.
– having strictly commercial agenda.
But then it should be followed by some patents right?
So what are those  patents and where to find them?

Wesley
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« Reply #2294 on: December 30, 2022, 04:28:23 PM »
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what you think about approach of this company ?

Avalanche Energy

https://www.avalanche.energy/

https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion

and /embercore

https://www.usnc.com/embercore/

Dear Croatian friend:
thank you very much for very much interesting links.


Just a simple mechanism:
You approaching certain entity with expectations to gain.


Wesley
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