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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1131605 times)

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2250 on: August 18, 2022, 07:58:05 PM »
What made you choose the size of your secondary, working with 160 meter amateur radio ?
It wasn't me but Dr. Corum who started from 144 MHz going down to 50 MHz going down to 1.8 MHz due to his license privileges,
in early stage of  his scientific investigation, of energy transfer from  A to B using surface wave.
Surface wave,  is generalization that includes all of the waves mentioned here including Zenneck Wave
https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=27
Despite its frequency it is the same phenomena , deferring mostly with  methods  of excitation.   
it is in your own interests to view all videos from  that channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPC6uCfBVSK71MnPPcp8AGA

The core of everything is  in almost never mentioned by me evanescent wave
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
But it is a very foundation, for educated researcher to understand this:
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf
-that excites a pure Zenneck
surface wave with  no radiation field.
1.8 MHz 160 m was just convenient for Dr. James Corum to his publish results
he could use 135.7kilohertz – 137.8kilohertz with 1 W EIRP maximum
before he got the license for 125 kHz https://fcc.report/ELS/Viziv-Technologies-LLC

So there are two factors,
– What Frequency you use for experiment
   and
– What frequency you publish that you used for your experiment ( legal reasons)
My suggestion is for you to deep your knowledge about evanescent waves
and its properties
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For average audience some history:
https://www.evangel.edu/press_releases/tesla-wireless-electricity-corum/
Something more or less important about evanescent waves:
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This phenomenon, known as the evanescent wave, extends only to a short distance from the interface,
with power dropping exponentially with distance.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/evanescent-wave

-but it is exactly matching to the explanation of Zenneck wave in the interface.

The missing part in that quote is that  evanescent wave is seen as  separate  phenomena by itself,
and Complex Brewster Angle is not taken into consideration.
while  the word: Complex  makes all the difference to  the traditional understanding of Brewster angle

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What is your understanding of the low loss inside the waveguide, normal waveguides have much higher losses than the Corum's claim ?
omnidirectional propagation in free space free_space. is restricted by inverse square law Inverse-square_law#:~
impedance of free space is Z0 = 376.7 Ohm.Free-space path loss is: FSPL = ` ((4 pi * d*f)/c)^2`
and it is based on frequency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss

generalizing we may say:
The lower is a frequency the lower is the loss over the distance.
however inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides!!!!!!


experimental analysis shows signal strength of 1W to 86% between New York and Los Angeles in the interface. at 17kHz
Note: it is not a power but percentage of the efficiency factor that is important for us to look at.

general rule:
The closer we are to Schumann frequency, the lower is our loss per unit of distance in the interface (2D waveguide)
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That also applies to extraction of energy from Schumann waveguide.
Wesley
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 09:47:54 PM by stivep »

kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2251 on: August 18, 2022, 08:44:55 PM »
Maybe there is something(energy) in this waveguide, as you say at a frequency of 17 kHz.
But the mistake is that you are trying to extract it (make a connection) in the traditional
ways for radio engineering. And at such low frequencies it does not work well.
It works well at high frequencies.

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2252 on: August 18, 2022, 09:02:56 PM »

about the losses versus frequency .

in free space point source propagation differs from line source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmenXrCt8L4
https://youtu.be/ZoOvABpLvzI?t=58
point source produces spherical wave
Line source produces cylindrical wave
Example: vertical dipole.
https://www.sarthaks.com/223896/a-line-source-emits-a-cylindrical-expanding-wave-assuming-the-medium-absorbs-no-energy

In  Dr. Corum technology we  are dealing with cylindrical wave
and that is why Tesla coil must be vertical in regards to the interface, while electric and magnetic fields are perpendicular to the direction of propagation.


Wesley
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 09:49:15 PM by stivep »

mkjekyll

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2253 on: August 18, 2022, 11:54:54 PM »
No worries Wesley,

I was only responding to something you wrote or said re Corum, cant recall.

Anyways odd diameter for that coil former, looks like PVC but not familiar with the size unless it's been turned down.

Have some optics background so have mentioned evanescent multiple times on this thread in relation to this device.  Really nice presentation when the guy pours the glycol with the laser illumination.

Certain kinds of mirrors treat photons as displacement current.  https://opg.optica.org/josaa/viewmedia.cfm?uri=josaa-2-9-1429

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2254 on: August 19, 2022, 02:56:40 AM »

kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2255 on: August 22, 2022, 11:22:32 AM »
What is the speed of movement of a traveling electromagnetic wave in a waveguide or a coaxial?
Is propagation speed related to frequency?

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2256 on: August 22, 2022, 08:44:22 PM »
What is the speed of movement of a traveling electromagnetic wave in a waveguide ?
speed of light within waveguide = <  speed of light in vacuum.(1 ft/ns)
most or waveguides are not in vacuum so speed of light within waveguide < than speed of light in vacuum.(1 ft/ns)
 Waveguide behaves much like a  passive  High Pass Filter and is basically supporting waves above a certain cut off frequency.
Power loss occurs in the walls of waveguide due to induced current, in order to reduce this loss walls are designed with as much low resistance as possible.

Tutorials/waveguide-basics-

What is the speed of movement of a traveling electromagnetic wave in a coaxial cable?
In coaxial cable, the speed of an electrical signal is about 2/3 of this, or about 8 in/ns.
https://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~lecturedemonstrations/Composer/Pages/76.18.html
Speed of Electromagnetic Signal Along a Coaxial Cable
https://aapt.scitation.org/doi/10.1119/1.1533966
Speed of waves through coaxial cable experiment
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/speed-of-waves-through-coaxial-cable-experiment/



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what is  electromagnetic wave (EMW)? :


Electromagnetic waves
are created by the vibration of an electric charge.
This vibration creates a wave which has both an electric and a magnetic component. vibrating perpendicularly to the direction of propagation,
Both electric and a magnetic component are at 90 degrees to each other.
 An electromagnetic wave
(EMW) transports its energy through a vacuum at a speed of c=3.00 x 108 m/s
EMW doesn't need any medium but if there is a medium than  "speed" of electromagnetic wave  depends from medium like: air, brick wall, plastic etc.
When EMW leaves particular medium e.g brick  it regains to particular speed of light at that another medium e.g air, and regains speed again 
to the "absolute" speed of light in vacuum if it goes to vacuum.

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What is speed of EMW?:


I'll try for you simple analogy.
in classical mechanics:
When you turn on the water pressure  on one side the pressure wave passes rather fast to the end, but the  water itself takes much longer."
in quantum mechanics:
Phase velocity of EMW( electromagnetic wave) can be compared to pressure wave -coming from water pressure
Phase velocity  is (defines) the speed at which waves oscillating at a particular frequency propagates.
note:
The electric field and magnetic field of an electromagnetic wave are perpendicular (at right angles) to each other.
They are also perpendicular to the direction of the EM wave. EM waves travel with a constant velocity of 3.00 x 108 ms-1 in vacuum.
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_speed_of_electromagnetic_waves_in_conductors



Is propagation speed related to frequency?

Propagation speed is determined by the medium only. Frequency and/or amplitude are unrelated.




Wesley
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kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2257 on: August 23, 2022, 09:46:48 AM »
And in your Schumann waveguide, it also moves approximately at the speed of light?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2258 on: August 23, 2022, 07:09:56 PM »

багато хто з вас не бачить, наскільки Україна прекрасна ) але Я,  можу.
Тепер я бачу, наскільки знання української мови мені допомагає

Please tell me, is there an ambassador of the United States of America in Ukraine?
According to my information there is only a temporary attorney.

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2259 on: August 23, 2022, 09:24:14 PM »
Ambassador Brink
She was nominated by President Biden to be U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine on April 25, 2022,
 confirmed  by the U.S. Senate on May 18, 2022, and arrived in Kyiv on May 29, 2022.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2260 on: October 11, 2022, 03:47:18 PM »
This years ICCF24 cold fusion conference had an interesting contribution ,
A seemingly impossible contribution,and it would seem easily replicated?
 Discussions are happening about that replication,..however they involve access
To university equipment and all the red tape !
The claim, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzv9kphxlfEGoThet
  Wesley,
You do have something which can analyze samples ?
Verify or show error in claims?
Such access would be wonderful and would allow more serious discussions on replication!
These type of replication discussions can bring more helpful information to the forefront
And at times even solve or expedite unknown issues with original claims!
Your resources are quite valuable to open source community!
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
There is also talk on the street of another LENR breakthrough
Supposed to hear more in coming weeks!

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2261 on: October 13, 2022, 10:00:21 PM »
copy of the original comment moved from Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY « Reply #23719 on: Today at 09:20:39 PM »
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Thanks for the clarification.

"...Tariel Kapanadze  said to me :Humanity is not yet the level to appreciate free and for free."

I don't know who T. Kapanadze really was,
You can't ask him anymore because he's dead.
What is his son doing with this legacy?
some coworkers?
If I'm wrong, I'm sorry but then show me where.
his son doesn't have a knowledge-base, he's more humanist than technical.
It is not much problem  to have Tariel's original device, made originally by Tariel within few days from now if I want to.
Well.. at maximum one week from now.
You actually could have it too. But you need to know where bunch of them  is now.
The only difference is that I can have it with ... yes sort of "manual", if we can name it this way.
and in 100% working condition - that is for sure.
It is not really the question of money.

...is my stupidity, reaching the level overflowing my sense of security,


Wesley
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r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2262 on: October 14, 2022, 08:44:16 AM »
Why does everyone think that if they show a real device, someone is about to kill them?
The Internet is everywhere; everyone already has more than 1 camera. Where are the UFO photos if they exist? or maybe it does not exist and therefore no one has a real UFO? It's the same with those who say they have a miracle device, but others don't even deserve to see it. This is what Pharaoh did when he deceived people that the sun was at his request.

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2263 on: October 14, 2022, 12:54:31 PM »
Why does everyone think that if they show a real device, someone is about to kill them?
The Internet is everywhere; everyone already has more than 1 camera. Where are the UFO photos if they exist? or maybe it does not exist and therefore no one has a real UFO? It's the same with those who say they have a miracle device, but others don't even deserve to see it. This is what Pharaoh did when he deceived people that the sun was at his request.
You talk like a mushroom. You like to make folk think they are suffering from delusional
mushroom effect. KITDAFBS. (kept in the dark and fed bull shit).

Sil

r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2264 on: October 14, 2022, 02:48:30 PM »
You talk like a mushroom. You like to make folk think they are suffering from delusional
mushroom effect. KITDAFBS. (kept in the dark and fed bull shit).

Sil

You have no arguments and that is why you are who you are.  Are you more like a monkey? or to a man? or alien ?