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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2190 on: January 28, 2019, 11:54:22 PM »
Memo :
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ

1. Sommerfeld and Zenneck wave propagation for a finitely conducting one-dimensional rough surface
https://vdocuments.mx/sommerfeld-and-zenneck-wave-propagation-for-a-finitely-conducting-one-dimensional.html

2.[IEEE Propagation Conference (LAPC) - Loughborough, United Kingdom (2010.11.8-2010.11.9)] 2010 Loughborough
Antennas & Propagation Conference - Isolation of the Zenneck surface wave
https://vdocuments.mx/ieee-propagation-conference-lapc-loughborough-united-kingdom-2010118-2010119-58526242b641c.html

3.Download - Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments

4.Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments
https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html

5.Possibility of superluminal behaviors for               X               -like and Zenneck waves
https://vdocuments.mx/possibility-of-superluminal-behaviors-for-x-like-and-zenneck-waves.html

6.Electromagnetic Surface Wave Attenuation Caused by Acoustic Wave Radiation
https://vdocuments.mx/electromagnetic-surface-wave-attenuation-caused-by-acoustic-wave-radiation.html

7.Surface-wave luneberg lens antennas
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-luneberg-lens-antennas.html

8.Excitation of sea surface wave by short-wave radiator
https://vdocuments.mx/excitation-of-sea-surface-wave-by-short-wave-radiator.html

9.Surface Wave Propagation Preliminary work developing a method for surface wave detection Amy Zheng Andrew Johnanneson.
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-propagation-preliminary-work-developing-a-method-for-surface-wave.html

10.Lens design for surface wave applications
https://vdocuments.mx/lens-design-for-surface-wave-applications.html

11. https://vdocuments.mx/search?q=Zenneck+surface+wave&per_page=8

12.On the relation between Surface Plasmons and Sommerfeld's Surface Electromagnetic Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-the-relation-between-Surface-Plasmons-and-Waves-Dyab-Abdallah/593dd702a9b6051652a7fbf4dc4f2df38e7697a7

13.Brief overview about Surface Wave theory and applications
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Brief-overview-about-Surface-Wave-theory-and-Balosso-
Sokoloff/e7f1b1a020f0f0d2bf7c45d68075690246678a79?tab=abstract&citingPapersSort=is-influential&citingPapersLimit=
10&citingPapersOffset=0&citedPapersSort=is-influential&citedPapersLimit=10&citedPapersOffset=10

14.Zenneck surface oscillations in the sphere dielectric resonator immersed in high lossy liquid
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zenneck-surface-oscillations-in-the-sphere-immersed-Ganapolskii-Eremenko/d41299173437028b336c26a8772ade0f109d62d1

15. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Surface-Waves-Barlow/686d2a3ce72918969e9a74edb49364521b2357cc/figure/4

16. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d3c2/de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494.pdf

17.The Excitation of Plane Surface Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Excitation-of-Plane-Surface-Waves-Cullen/d3c2de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494

18.The application of electromagnetic surface waves to wireless energy transfer
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-application-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves-to-Peterson/f9d3824240e41b4748a403adbd0c140f2f580a06

19.THE PROPAGATION AND EXCITATION OF SURFACE WAVES IN AN ABSORBING LAYER
http://www.jpier.org/PIER/pier19/02.970718p.Ling.SU.pdf

20.Surface wave
https://wiki2.org/en/Surface_wave

21.Why Do Surface Waves Exist?
http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf

22.Excitation of the Zenneck surface wave by a vertical aperture
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2190 on: January 28, 2019, 11:54:22 PM »

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« Reply #2191 on: January 29, 2019, 09:56:45 AM »
Frequency of work is the basis for action.
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« Reply #2192 on: January 29, 2019, 02:50:34 PM »
  Boring, boring, boring, boring, boring, and boring.  Oh, and more boring.

If someone doesn't understand it they will say it's boring. This is the case, for example, in the music of Jazz

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« Reply #2193 on: January 29, 2019, 05:10:47 PM »
If someone doesn't understand it they will say it's boring. This is the case, for example, in the music of Jazz

Well you have to understand where this statement is coming from. Nick wants the schematic/working device and not some videos or even a scientific paper, that requires him to understand something.

He is tired of wiring coils and pulsing them. He wants his free energy now, because he is entitled to it.

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« Reply #2194 on: January 29, 2019, 06:00:31 PM »
Well you have to understand where this statement is coming from. Nick wants the schematic/working device and not some videos or even a scientific paper, that requires him to understand something.

He is tired of wiring coils and pulsing them. He wants his free energy now, because he is entitled to it.


That's how I understand him, he's tired of searching but doesn't understand that nobody's going to do it for him. The information is very misleading because everyone adds something and creates new versions to the version. It hurts the head but it is also an inspiration for others.
It is fundamental to understand where this energy comes from and not how to do it. I know it after years of research and now I agree with it. Looking at the Kapanadze 2004 device you can see and hear how it works. If you listen to when it works and when it is switched off, you understand that you have to look for an action in this sense. When it is switched off it works for another 1-2 sec. why ?
How does the bell work? This is 100% of the answer and it says it to Kapanadze with words and in the text of patents.
The resonance itself is beautiful but it may not be enough, so if we add the earth's resonance to it, we are more certain that we have found a power source. After all, earth resonance is pure amperage. What's strange about it. Kapanadze resonates the coil only with the ground but at the right frequency, capacity for it. It is so simple that for some people it is impossible to even think about it and look for UFO technology.
Wesley gave good information but you don't listen to him. I didn't believe at the beginning that this is true. When I discovered myself that this is the only way for resonance. An ordinary coil with a capacitor has a huge power. It's like a big bell and a small hammer in an impulse.


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« Reply #2195 on: January 29, 2019, 08:26:36 PM »


It is fundamental to understand where this energy comes from and not how to do it. I know it after years of research and now I agree with it. Looking at the Kapanadze 2004 device you can see and hear how it works. If you listen to when it works and when it is switched off, you understand that you have to look for an action in this sense. When it is switched off it works for another 1-2 sec. why ?
How does the bell work? This is 100% of the answer and it says it to Kapanadze with words and in the text of patents.
The resonance itself is beautiful but it may not be enough, so if we add the earth's resonance to it, we are more certain that we have found a power source. After all, earth resonance is pure amperage. What's strange about it. Kapanadze resonates the coil only with the ground but at the right frequency, capacity for it. It is so simple that for some people it is impossible to even think about it and look for UFO technology.

Indeed but it does not necessarily follow that the energy is being extracted from the ground. Remember that Kapanadze told us that his box devices still work without an ground connection, albeit less efficiently.

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« Reply #2196 on: January 29, 2019, 08:34:50 PM »
Indeed but it does not necessarily follow that the energy is being extracted from the ground. Remember that Kapanadze told us that his box devices still work without an ground connection, albeit less efficiently.

That's right; but it can not be ruled out that this energy comes from the resonance of the earth. He also said he could be on the plane so this is just a suggestion. He did not check it. At ground level and newet 1 or 2 meters above the ground, these waves may be present. I do not know this but I just suppose.
If it was the resonance itself, people designing oscillatory circuits would have discovered it for a long time. However, this is not so obvious when we talk about short sharp pulses to produce resonance by impact.
What patent can Kapanadze say? the problem is that there are also those about energy transmission and those about spark-gap and those about multiplying the current.

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« Reply #2197 on: January 30, 2019, 11:28:45 AM »
Energy is everywhere. We live inside a huge dielectric. We are already tap in this vast ocean of energy by our electrical circuits. Even a dead shortcut across a battery, works as a triggering event and ambient energy manifests. Capacitors and coil/transformers are means for taping in this ambient source. Actually those are the only means to tap in. We don't have problems on finding means to tap. We are just strungling to make a more efficient transformation which is impossible witjh classic ways. Even in Steve's video above, the man said it clearly at 4:12. "...Surface waves can be used with a maximum overall efficiency of 85% which makes them an advanced tech in relation with what we use right now for energy transfering. I really don't think that by resonating in any of Earth's frequencies will do the magic. Perhaps it can raise a little bit the overall transformation efficiency but again it can never overcome losses.
So, the interest moves on what Ruslan/Kapa/Akula did to overcome this problem. Because all of their published circuits don't offer something new on what we already know and this has been proved by all the failed attempts to replicate their maschines. It is not a matter of Frequency. Nor a matter of special materials cables cores e.t.c. And definately, it is not depending on the kind or name of waves we use. Transformation is the real problem. IMHO we should focus more on this.

 

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« Reply #2198 on: January 30, 2019, 12:08:43 PM »
Energy is everywhere. We live inside a huge dielectric. We are already tap in this vast ocean of energy by our electrical circuits. Even a dead shortcut across a battery, works as a triggering event and ambient energy manifests. Capacitors and coil/transformers are means for taping in this ambient source. Actually those are the only means to tap in. We don't have problems on finding means to tap. We are just strungling to make a more efficient transformation which is impossible witjh classic ways. Even in Steve's video above, the man said it clearly at 4:12. "...Surface waves can be used with a maximum overall efficiency of 85% which makes them an advanced tech in relation with what we use right now for energy transfering. I really don't think that by resonating in any of Earth's frequencies will do the magic. Perhaps it can raise a little bit the overall transformation efficiency but again it can never overcome losses.
So, the interest moves on what Ruslan/Kapa/Akula did to overcome this problem. Because all of their published circuits don't offer something new on what we already know and this has been proved by all the failed attempts to replicate their maschines. It is not a matter of Frequency. Nor a matter of special materials cables cores e.t.c. And definately, it is not depending on the kind or name of waves we use. Transformation is the real problem. IMHO we should focus more on this.

I do not agree with you. The resonance power is huge. If you ever wanted to hear a glass in resonance, you would know that it is not so easy at the beginning. After some time, it will be done. Same with a swing. You do it intuitively, so why do you say it is not enough? Because there are losses? yes they are but this is not the resonance! The bridge had a great mass and the wind blown it. Of course it was a bad construction but it shows what the resonance power is. Imagine a coil like the BIG BEN bell and what you have to do to hear it 1-10 km away. and what you can not do. If Kapanadze told you that you would laugh at how the bell would show you, you would not understand if you did not know what he was talking about and that you would laugh. All devices Kapa, ‚Äč‚ÄčAkula, Ruslan, Steven Mark and others operate on a simple resonance. Everything is there. Do not look for anything else. Match the simple rule to what you see there. Leave your knowledge and start like a child and you'll find that it's possible.
Another example of the "Jericho Trumpet"!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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« Reply #2199 on: January 30, 2019, 01:46:25 PM »
The bridge had a great mass and the wind blown it.

What i see everyday is the incresement of input power when resonance comes into play across one or more secondaries. No matter what frequency someone uses this is a fact that it can't be easily overlooked. For sure something is overlooked but i feel that resonance of any kind has already been studied and by itself looks like "a not enough condition." In my opinion Ruslakula just lies when he points to special frequencies.
 
In relation with your bridge example don't forget to count the massive force of gravity which acts in combination with that of the wind...

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« Reply #2200 on: January 30, 2019, 02:23:53 PM »
What i see everyday is the incresement of input power when resonance comes into play across one or more secondaries. No matter what frequency someone uses this is a fact that it can't be easily overlooked. For sure something is overlooked but i feel that resonance of any kind has already been studied and by itself looks like "a not enough condition." In my opinion Ruslakula just lies when he points to special frequencies.
 
There is something else: the reflection of the wave from the earth. Each antenna works on earth ground or virtual ground. There is amperage.

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« Reply #2201 on: January 30, 2019, 02:39:54 PM »
There is something else: the reflection of the wave from the earth. Each antenna works on earth ground or virtual ground. There is amperage.
I think you speak about constractive interference. Perhaps there is a chance if you could match your transmitted signal with earth's waves but really how this can happen when we are talking about waves which are not constant in time/duration/frequency/phase/amplitude..hmm

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« Reply #2202 on: January 31, 2019, 04:25:55 PM »
Nick,
I too think Wesley's surface wave theory does not offer a credible explanation for any of the Kapanadze, Akula or Ruslan etc., devices. I have therefore decided its best not to argue the toss with him on this thread and to use the other thread to continue discussions on more plausible theories. As Wesley has pointed out, he is using this - his thread as a notebook and is not concerned whether we agree with his theory or not, so I see little point disturbing his lengthy notes with posts attacking him.

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« Reply #2203 on: February 01, 2019, 12:43:28 AM »
 Dla r2fpl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGywu9BJJCU
Widze ze sie  zajales  na serio tematem.

Dla mnie to wyglada jak  zmiana impedancji pola przez dodanie zarowek w kierunku  blizej rezonansu.
To samo mozna  zrobic wkladajac reke.

To samo bedzie  rowniez   jesli czestotliwosc  struktury  zmieni sie przez dodanie komponentow LC
w XYZ przestrzeni - w kierunku  rezonansu.

Srobuje zrobic porownania:
Ja wiem ze twoja konfiguracja byla inna.
Chce tylko zebys rozumial co robi co.
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Zaczynasz z 52MHz bo wtedy nie  masz  duzych wymiarow.
Robisz  sobie pare  rozdzielona  dystansem.
Czyli odb.  - robisz dokladnie tak jak i nadajnik.
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dopiero kiedy  uda ci sie  przekazac energie z punktu a do b. to bierzesz  dokladnie ten sam nadajnik ktory jest teraz  twoim wzorcem.
Teraz traktujesz ten  nadajnik jak by to byl  teraz  twoj nastepny  odb.
i probujesz dostroic do rezonansu  schumanna nizej i nizej.
Orginalnego odb. nigdy nie dotykasz i nic  przy nim nie zmieniasz.
Ale teraz  ten twoj orginalny odb bedzie twoim nadajnikiem.
Czyli podlaczasz do niego  teraz generator.
Patrzysz czy  oba pracuja na przemian.

Potem powracasz do pierwszej konfiguracji.
Twoj nadajnik jest nadajnikiem a twoj odbiornik jest odbiornikiem.


I tu zachodzi  ciekawa rzecz.
Teraz bazujac na twoim juz teraz  doswiadzeniu  z  przekazem  energii
ktore jest kluczowe ,
 Z nadajnika wyciagasz  cala cewke  wys nap. w jej miejsce wkladasz  granat Tariela  https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=513
Orginalnego pierwszego Odb.  nie ruszasz  wogole. Tak jak  byl dostr. tak go zostawiasz.
Bawisz sie z nawijajac  cewke w lewo , prawo jak popadnie  lub tez tak jak to robil  Akula lub Ruslan, caly czas trzymasz 52MHz na generatorze.
Patrzysz sie czy odb ci  cos pokazuje.
Tak naprawde to nie  ma wielkiego znaczenia .
Za kazdym razem kiedy zmieniasz kierunek nawiniecia  to skracasz fizyczna skladowa.
W rezultacie masz  cos malego  a zachowuje sie jak duza antena.
Podstawowa zasada :
Najpierw dostroj sie do rez.  na najmniejszej cewce  jaka mozesz nawinac  a potem mozesz albo nadawac albo odbierac, Jak sobie chesz.

Ale  odb musi byc na odleglosci ok. 10m   minimum dla 52MHz .
Jak juz  zrobisz ze ci ta cewka Tariela/ Akuly  pracuje to wlasciwie zrobiles  Kapanadze.
Znasz mechanizm dostrojenia sie do harmonicznej.
Wszystko co teraz trzeba  to wiedziec ze jestes kupe za  wysoko musisz zejsc nizej z czest.
Faza jest regulowana w stosunku do ziemi.
Faza potrzebuje  punktu odniesienia i ziemia jest twoim punktem odniesienia
Tariel zbytnio sie nie przejmowal. W pokazie dla mnie  uzyl  wysokowoltowy generator iskry od grzejnika od gazu
Jego koncepcja wymagala pierwszego impulsu aby wzbudzic  Zenneck fale a potem urzadzenie pracowalo samo.
 
Jesli ktos chce byc cale zycie baranem to bedzie narzekal ze mu nie podano pod nos.
Oni nie potrafia zrozumiec ze ja jestem zyciowym minimalista.
Zwisa mi i powiewa miec wiecej niz mam.
Ale im tego nie wyjasnisz, nie zrozumia.
Nie bede krytykow na  sile uszczesliwial.

Tzn. skontaktuj sie ze mna i ja ci powiem wtedy co dalej.
wymiary podane tutaj  nie sa dla 52MHz wiec musisz poprostu proporcjonalnie zmniejszyc.
Nawet zbytnio nie trzeba obliczac.
Wszystko bedzie male.
 
informacja o Wysokosci masztu jest tutaj ucieta ale jest na moim  vid.
Acha nie moglem twojego znaku  znalezc nigdzie w spisie.
wiec jestes zarejestr. czy nie?

Wesley
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HV is dangerous.
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« Reply #2204 on: February 01, 2019, 01:57:14 AM »
Wystarczy  rozumiec ze energia w falowodzie  Schumann'a jest tam stale.
Rezonans na czest harmonicznej jest kluczem do  wyciagniecia tej energi.
Ale poniewaz wazna jest tez faza wiec  trzeba sie wstroic za pomoca  fali Zenneca

Wiec roznica jest tylko  w aplikacji a mechanizm jest dokladnie taki sam.
I po to potrzebne ci jest doswiadczenie z przekazem z  A do B przy uzyciu   granatu.

Nie mozna  z  ziemi  wyciagnac tej energi inaczej jak tylko przez fale powierzchniowa.
Po to Tarielowi bylo potrzebne uziemnienie.


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