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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 209702 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1995 on: January 15, 2019, 10:33:37 AM »
Wesley and All:

Below is a quick (and rough) video experiment I did in response to Wesley's recent claims about
'surface waves' being involved in lighting LED bulbs touched to a 'dielectric' (black TIVAR blocks), and
requiring special 90 degree phasing, etc. Those black TIVAR antistatic blocks Wesley used are *antistatic*
(dissipate high voltage static build up) because according to the manufacturer's data sheet on that type
of TIVAR material they contain 'carbon black' (carbon) which makes those TIVAR blocks conductive
to high voltage. This allows the TIVAR blocks to conduct away high voltage static build up
(antistatic). So those TIVAR blocks are actually essentially pretty decent conductive electrodes when placed
in a high voltage electric field. :)

My video starts off with some still slides that detail my experimental setup and input power consumption
as well as the purpose of the experiment I did. You will have to pause the video on each still slide to read
the details written there. After that I show the actual video experiment. At the end I show my conclusions
drawn from my experiment. I did this very quick after work and threw the video together very quickly
so it is kind of rough. Please let me know if you agree with the conclusions I come to at the end of
the experiment. Naturally I will only respond to at least somewhat sane and reasonable responses to this 
video experiment.  ;D

Are 'surface waves' necessary to light a LED Bulb in a strong electric field on a dry material with carbon in it?
Is it 'surface wave magic' if a LED bulb lights up when one electrical contact on the LED bulb is not connected to anything?
Can a relatively low power flyback driver (about 14 Watts in this experiment) generating an ordinary electric field light up
LED bulbs by only touching the bulb glass with your hand?
Watch the following video experiment to find out. :)

LED Bulb Lighting Experiment - Response to Wesley AKA stivep1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjN9k3dHBoI

« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 04:53:17 PM by Void »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1995 on: January 15, 2019, 10:33:37 AM »

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1996 on: January 15, 2019, 10:38:29 AM »
look here:
Product Data Sheet
Surface Resistivity per Square
1e+05 - 1.00e+9 ohm1e+05 - 1.00e+9 ohmASTM D257
Wesley
Wesley,
As has been pointed out, you are using the wrong material assuming you required a genuine electrical insulator. Try your experiment again using a block of polycarbonate.

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1997 on: January 15, 2019, 10:49:36 AM »
Excellent video Void and the music! 8)
Maybe this will help rid this thread of this LED bulb lighting nonsense and get back to ways to light Kapanadze style 1KW bulbs with free energy.  ;D

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1997 on: January 15, 2019, 10:49:36 AM »
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1998 on: January 15, 2019, 10:50:48 AM »
You do know in some countries a mobile phone and microwave devices have a huge sticker including WIFI servers have this bloody great sticker on the back
saying Warning this device is a grade 2 carcinogenic device and so is a SMART METER! This device isn't worth giving time of day to. unless it's in a faraday cage.

Have a nice RADIATION free day.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1999 on: January 15, 2019, 10:55:39 AM »
Excellent video Void and the music! 8)
Maybe this will help rid this thread of this LED bulb lighting nonsense and get back to ways to light Kapanadze style 1KW bulbs with free energy.  ;D

Hi Hoppy. Thanks for watching mate. You would think that such an experiment will help to dispel some myths,
but that is not typically how things go around here unfortunately.  ;D We will see what Wesley has to say
about this experiment and the conclusions I draw from it. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1999 on: January 15, 2019, 10:55:39 AM »
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Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2000 on: January 15, 2019, 11:27:09 AM »

Thank you for your video and your time.
anything what you say  at any frequency would be noted in literature as  this material is used in American government test facilities.

In  Product Data Sheet on the top you see material listed:
Quadrant EPP TIVARĀ® DrySlide UHMW-PE, Lubricant Filled, Electro Static Dissipative
UHMW-PE
I explained in  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530113/#msg530113
and in
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530118/#msg530118

Material used in experiment had nothing to do with charcoal or any conductive  material under any circumstances.
so again Void :
It is  the type of insulator that never becomes conductive
====================================================================
All of you can not accept that this is  how  surface wave manifests itself on dielectric.
Visual presentation  of how Kapanadze device works in the field may give to some of you some answers .
There is  former airport about 40 minutes from me.
It could be any flat open field I could find. But it is to cold outside.
I'm going to make few tests.
=================================================================
the bottom line is:
The same Zenneck surface wave used by Viziv   is used  by Tariel Kapanadze to extract energy from Shumann waveguide.
Energy fluctuation inside the waveguide are affecting its boundary.
Shumann waveguide  boundary  Earth  serves as interface.
And method of extraction of this energy  was the dilemma that one may patent to no longer deal with disbelieve of crowd.
If it does not work for you it works for other guy
what's a problem?
 
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2001 on: January 15, 2019, 11:32:03 AM »
Wesley,
As has been pointed out, you are using the wrong material assuming you required a genuine electrical insulator. Try your experiment again using a block of polycarbonate.
Dear friends I used right material   at right frequency to create surface wave in the interface
But interesting to me  is how much of time I have spend yesterday to  make all of these pictures comments to help others to understand more.
How much impact on an individual  can be created in social platform.
As if  I had nothing  more to do with my time.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2001 on: January 15, 2019, 11:32:03 AM »
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2002 on: January 15, 2019, 12:09:48 PM »


====================================================================
All of you can not accept that this is  how  surface wave manifests itself on dielectric.
Visual presentation  of how Kapanadze device works in the field may give to some of you some answers .
There is  former airport about 40 minutes from me.
It could be any flat open field I could find. But it is to cold outside.
I'm going to make few tests.
=================================================================
the bottom line is:
The same Zenneck surface wave used by Viziv   is used  by Tariel Kapanadze to extract energy from Shumann waveguide.
Energy fluctuation inside the waveguide are affecting its boundary.
Shumann waveguide  boundary  Earth  serves as interface.
And method of extraction of this energy  was the dilemma that one may patent to no longer deal with disbelieve of crowd.
If it does not work for you it works for other guy
what's a problem?
 
Wesley
The problem is simple Wesley. You have not demonstrated in any credible manner whatsoever that Zenneck surface waves are used to power Kapanadze's devices.

Offline Jeg

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2003 on: January 15, 2019, 12:24:15 PM »
Hi Wesley. I agree with Hoppy. "It might be used'' would be better. Nor to say that by calling ''Zeneck'' certain wavelengths with certain transmission characteristics is not so productive. But your wide range of research activities is remarkable. Thanks for sharing your experience.   

Void thanks for sharing. Nice point :)

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2003 on: January 15, 2019, 12:24:15 PM »
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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2004 on: January 15, 2019, 12:27:22 PM »
Thank you for your video and your time.
anything what you say  at any frequency would be noted in literature as  this material is used in American government test facilities.

In  Product Data Sheet on the top you see material listed:
Quadrant EPP TIVARĀ® DrySlide UHMW-PE, Lubricant Filled, Electro Static Dissipative
UHMW-PE
I explained in  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530113/#msg530113
and in
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530118/#msg530118

Material used in experiment had nothing to do with charcoal or any conductive  material under any circumstances.
so again Void :
It is  the type of insulator that never becomes conductive
====================================================================
All of you can not accept that this is  how  surface wave manifests itself on dielectric.
Visual presentation  of how Kapanadze device works in the field may give to some of you some answers .
There is  former airport about 40 minutes from me.
It could be any flat open field I could find. But it is to cold outside.
I'm going to make few tests.
=================================================================
the bottom line is:
The same Zenneck surface wave used by Viziv   is used  by Tariel Kapanadze to extract energy from Shumann waveguide.
Energy fluctuation inside the waveguide are affecting its boundary.
Shumann waveguide  boundary  Earth  serves as interface.
And method of extraction of this energy  was the dilemma that one may patent to no longer deal with disbelieve of crowd.
If it does not work for you it works for other guy
what's a problem?
 
Wesley
Well one needs to test TK FE device and does it or its surroundings yield any sign of RF radiation?
perhaps being a receiver it would not!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2005 on: January 15, 2019, 01:01:30 PM »
...
The same Zenneck surface wave used by Viziv   is used  by Tariel Kapanadze to extract energy from Shumann waveguide.
Energy fluctuation inside the waveguide are affecting its boundary.
Shumann waveguide  boundary  Earth  serves as interface.
And method of extraction of this energy  was the dilemma that one may patent to no longer deal with disbelieve of crowd.
If it does not work for you it works for other guy
what's a problem?
 
Wesley
There are big problems. At least 3 problems:

1. The resonance of Schumann corresponds to the resonance of the planet Earth from lightning discharges. Therefore, the oscillation frequency is very low. Anyway, to powerfull receive these waves, a Hertz dipole is needed, consisting of 2 insulated conductors. The size of each conductor should be comparable to the size of the planet Earth. You need 2 planets. Or at least stretch the wires to the moon. Very large scale. Impossible to implement.
2. A very small amplitude of the Schumann waves. The Earth oscillations from the industrial frequency of 50 - 60 Hz is many times greater than the amplitude of the Schumann waves. To register Schumann waves, scientists use very sensitive receivers with filters from 50 to 60 Hz. Partially this problem is a consequence of Problem # 1. Scientists can not  create antenna for the Schumann waves of the corresponding quarter wavelength size.
Magnetic antennas also capture a small part of the energy from a magnetic flux through a antenna surface.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux

3. Waves of Schumann are not periodic. These vibrations are not pure sine wave. They are aperiodic. It is impossible to create an oscillator at the Schumann resonance frequency, since the oscillations look like single pulses.
http://www.vlf.it/sven/schumannunderground.html
https://www.tau.ac.il/~colin/courses/AtmosElec/Schumann%20resonances%20in%20lightning%20research.pdf

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2005 on: January 15, 2019, 01:01:30 PM »
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2006 on: January 15, 2019, 03:20:50 PM »

This is another piece of disinformation because of the minority opinion.
Previously, another vocal individual has voiced the same concern. I was trying to comment but I finally gave up. Every real antenna engineer knows what's wrong with your concerns #1 and #3.


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There are big problems. At least 3 problems:

1. The resonance of Schumann corresponds to the resonance of the planet Earth from lightning discharges. Therefore, the oscillation frequency is very low. Anyway, to powerfull receive these waves, a Hertz dipole is needed, consisting of 2 insulated conductors. The size of each conductor should be comparable to the size of the planet Earth. You need 2 planets. Or at least stretch the wires to the moon. Very large scale. Impossible to implement.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2007 on: January 15, 2019, 03:31:26 PM »

Whether you understand it or not, I believe the Russian researchers have posted enough demo on Youtube to demonstrate this effect. The theory of Zenneck's surface wave has been experimentally proven by many researchers since Marconi's time but different researchers might have different conclusions on the similar phenomenon.

The problem is simple Wesley. You have not demonstrated in any credible manner whatsoever that Zenneck surface waves are used to power Kapanadze's devices.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2008 on: January 15, 2019, 05:11:52 PM »
Jeg, Wesley, thanks for watching the video and thanks for the comments.

Wesley, at the very end of the video I included a screenshot from the same manufacturer's
data sheet for a similar type of black TIVAR antistatic material which shows that this type of antistatic TIVAR
has carbon black in it. This allows this TIVAR antistatic material to be conductive enough to high voltage
to allow it to dissipate high voltage static build up. As mentioned before, this means that this material has
some degree of conductivity to high voltage or it wouldn't be 'antistatic'.

I have to wonder Wesley, are you interested in facts and understanding how things are really
working, or are you just interested in promoting a pet theory and closing your eyes to anything
that may contradict your assumptions? You should be able to test the TIVAR blocks you
have relatively easily by connecting one end of a TIVAR block to a high voltage source with
a taped on piece of metal or aluminum foil, and then see if you can draw sparks/arcs off different parts
of the TIVAR block to a ground wire. Should be easy enough to try this, no?

All the best...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2009 on: January 15, 2019, 05:18:22 PM »
well it means there was a source of zenneck waves in 2004 near Kapanadze house.... right ?

 

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