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Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1860 on: June 23, 2020, 06:57:11 PM »



Memo :
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ

1. Sommerfeld and Zenneck wave propagation for a finitely conducting one-dimensional rough surface
https://vdocuments.mx/sommerfeld-and-zenneck-wave-propagation-for-a-finitely-conducting-one-dimensional.html

2.[IEEE Propagation Conference (LAPC) - Loughborough, United Kingdom (2010.11.8-2010.11.9)] 2010 Loughborough
Antennas & Propagation Conference - Isolation of the Zenneck surface wave
https://vdocuments.mx/ieee-propagation-conference-lapc-loughborough-united-kingdom-2010118-2010119-58526242b641c.html

3.Download - Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments

4.Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments
https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html

5.Possibility of superluminal behaviors for               X               -like and Zenneck waves
https://vdocuments.mx/possibility-of-superluminal-behaviors-for-x-like-and-zenneck-waves.html

6.Electromagnetic Surface Wave Attenuation Caused by Acoustic Wave Radiation
https://vdocuments.mx/electromagnetic-surface-wave-attenuation-caused-by-acoustic-wave-radiation.html

7.Surface-wave luneberg lens antennas
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-luneberg-lens-antennas.html

8.Excitation of sea surface wave by short-wave radiator
https://vdocuments.mx/excitation-of-sea-surface-wave-by-short-wave-radiator.html

9.Surface Wave Propagation Preliminary work developing a method for surface wave detection Amy Zheng Andrew Johnanneson.
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-propagation-preliminary-work-developing-a-method-for-surface-wave.html

10.Lens design for surface wave applications
https://vdocuments.mx/lens-design-for-surface-wave-applications.html

11. https://vdocuments.mx/search?q=Zenneck+surface+wave&per_page=8

12.On the relation between Surface Plasmons and Sommerfeld's Surface Electromagnetic Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-the-relation-between-Surface-Plasmons-and-Waves-Dyab-Abdallah/593dd702a9b6051652a7fbf4dc4f2df38e7697a7

13.Brief overview about Surface Wave theory and applications
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Brief-overview-about-Surface-Wave-theory-and-Balosso-
Sokoloff/e7f1b1a020f0f0d2bf7c45d68075690246678a79?tab=abstract&citingPapersSort=is-influential&citingPapersLimit=
10&citingPapersOffset=0&citedPapersSort=is-influential&citedPapersLimit=10&citedPapersOffset=10

14.Zenneck surface oscillations in the sphere dielectric resonator immersed in high lossy liquid
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zenneck-surface-oscillations-in-the-sphere-immersed-Ganapolskii-Eremenko/d41299173437028b336c26a8772ade0f109d62d1

15. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Surface-Waves-Barlow/686d2a3ce72918969e9a74edb49364521b2357cc/figure/4

16. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d3c2/de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494.pdf

17.The Excitation of Plane Surface Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Excitation-of-Plane-Surface-Waves-Cullen/d3c2de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494

18.The application of electromagnetic surface waves to wireless energy transfer
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-application-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves-to-Peterson/f9d3824240e41b4748a403adbd0c140f2f580a06

19.THE PROPAGATION AND EXCITATION OF SURFACE WAVES IN AN ABSORBING LAYER
http://www.jpier.org/PIER/pier19/02.970718p.Ling.SU.pdf

20.Surface wave
https://wiki2.org/en/Surface_wave

21.Why Do Surface Waves Exist?
http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf

22.Excitation of the Zenneck surface wave by a vertical aperture
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1861 on: June 23, 2020, 07:02:04 PM »
I miss very much
Jerry..the owner of Keelynet.com
Jerry Passed away suddenly 2017/06/19, he will be missed.
Not everyone knows  about it, and people  are asking  me why  Keelynet is down.
Wesley 
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1862 on: June 23, 2020, 07:08:46 PM »
https://vdocuments.mx/chapter-2-waveguide-and-components-propagation-mode-of-electromagnetic-wave.html

 way to understand  phenomena in Waveguide
where  main  for us is TM transverse Magnetic mode
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1863 on: June 24, 2020, 04:51:14 AM »
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-16114-x
use of NMR to  investigate batteries and its material  as a transition from gasoline to electric power
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1864 on: June 24, 2020, 11:29:22 AM »
Wesley,...few years back was speaking with Jerry's friend and partner/associate..He was quite upset about loosing Jerry and about where all this would go.[Keely net, Some people were trying to help him ??

Will see if I can find his number and give a call [very nice fellow]hope all is well By you.[and thx for all you do for open source community]

respectfully
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1865 on: June 25, 2020, 11:15:37 AM »
Hullo!


I've been doing some disrelated research to energy... so this may seem to be coming from entirely out of left field.

Let me start with some links, and then go on to explain what they are...

https://www.geogebra.org/3d/spxzup4s (arccos)


https://www.geogebra.org/u/d3x0r  (various graphs I've done with this neat widget, mostly disrelated to the eventual discussion)


https://www.geogebra.org/m/a5dauj6s (this was early attempt, it is very slow; it's essentially the same as the first, but 2 dimensional instead of a slider)


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I did figure out, however, extended arcsin and arccos that are valid; but arccos(cos(a)+cos(b)) is a number that only that operation can produce.  (or approximate with a bunch of other things).  Makes picking a random secure key kinda nice - suppose that's where elliptic curve stuff is based.


https://d3x0r.github.io/STFRPhysics/math/  This  is arccos(x) - (x*2/pi) ... +/- 1 around the origin... The difference in the change for adding a little bit at the ends are a very steep slope.  (sine, is similar, but harder to graph, because it loops back on itself and doesn't really go anywhere).   

The slope of the arcsin(x) curve is similar if reverse biased with a counter instead... the existing arc-sin can sort of work as-is, but store the number of wraps in a counter floor(angle/2pi). in parallel with the sin result, and then the original angle can be recovered also; otherwise sin() can only return the principle angle.  cos(), however, can return the number of wraps ...



This is hard to explain exactly what this graph is showing... but it does remind me of the electron orbital shapes.  This also is why from the middle (0) to negative.. until a maximum of absolute 0, the next step is the hottest thing.   (If the thing itself is very hot then it will give energy to the system and prevent the system as a whole from going below 0.  There's a good chance the same behavior happens at the top end, so you have to put in more and more energy exponenetially (leaving the origin) until a maximum, which inverts very which quickly to reverse the state to the other directions.


The feedbacks only occur where arccos( cos(x) + n ) > 1 .


while resolving what the graph of arccos looks like, it actually simply extends, because the 'forward' is +/-1 and balances out in a 'real' way.  It is basically the shape of a closed surface; although vertically up and down it is also the same as the sine graph.   The sine graph in its 'natural' state is the shape of open space...


I spent some time developing some meshing algorithms a while ago...


https://d3x0r.github.io/IsoSurface-MultiTexture/  In this demo, there is a 'sine waves' Input data, which is a 3d plot of sin(x)+sin(y)+sin(z), and the surface at 0....   The surface itself is entirely 1 surface, but has inifinite holes in it(?)  ... the arc-sin function at >1 wraps backwards on the x-axis ...  the space immediately 'in front' of sine is real and imaginary (open)... so the arcsin function is the graph of the open space side... Anyway; it's all a matter of perspective, if you just are the thing rotating, it's all just silly to think about.


Okay so then, A while ago I was playing with `mobially` wound coils (ABHA), and my royer/scope had huge feedback especially under load... The graph of the normalized arccos( cos(x)*2 )  looks a lot like that... such that what was coming back was greater than 1x cos wave (?).  Probably a coincidence.   However, this other graph, but to go back to the numbers, the projection of power outside the curve reflects differently immediately in the view of deltaX... at deltaX+1 it's very hard to get some places...  The function of arccos( >1) is also negative, but odes not reach the full range of the negativity... this would be a very good solution for rubber banding/exponentiated limiting...

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Hopf Fibrations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKotMPGFJYk  Fasciating :)  These are those neat interlink toroidal links, which are a subset of quaternions (all that wonderful math I've been doing).    They resemble the shape of magentic fields... (although I suspect moving iron filings is a projection of the field, and not really the field itself.... )   

So; I built this fancy new mesher that can generate arbitrary shapes, and dynamically reshape them (dig out some of the closed space); but then I need to know where it 'is' of the physics of the thing, so I started on this physics engine, but Matricii (Matrixes) are limited in their ability to carry rotations except for very small ticks; and quaternions are really no better... there is, however, a layer under the quaternions called 'log quatnerion' or apply the natural log function to a quaternion, which just makes it a 0  ( exp(0) = 1 ).  and a bunch of imaginary rotations for each axis in the total angles each... these then get 'truncated' to 2pi, or their principle values, and can be applied as quaternions or matricii, and get some rotations... but there's been NO math on these.

It's like all this time there's this huge issue that noone's figured out a mapping from the rotation space ( arcsin( sin(a)+sin(b) ) and arccos(cos(a)+cos(b)) ) being the axises...   The arcsin and arccos functions are 'continuous'  in rotation space.... but somehow when sine rotates it affects the cos part. 

(wow I'm really sorry, I'm realizing this is probably all about 99% useless, which makes it effectively a nil thing)

J


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1867 on: July 06, 2020, 08:39:06 PM »
Hello Wesley,


interested in cheap electricity storage I saw as alternative,1/2 price : https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/GOOSUN-hot-sale-lto-battery-55ah_62140142727.html




Keep it well


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« Reply #1868 on: July 07, 2020, 12:51:27 AM »
tnx LankaIV
here  for curiosity is :
What's Inside a Tesla Model S Battery Pack -- World's FIRST Tesla Swapped Nissan 350Z - Part 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENu8uuPIss8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouOqWZM28Qwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM8YKgSgfxs

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1869 on: July 10, 2020, 07:00:26 AM »
https://youtu.be/Z7rd04KzLcg?t=2201  See also this Eric Weinstein guy... Geometric Unity: A First Look which is about... well a lot of geometry babel :)  But essiantially.. trying to get to work within the base system (curvature) instead of the product of evaluation of curvature (matrixes/quaternions) which are what relativity is actually sort of based on - it's a truncate -1 to +1 system because of 'symmetry'



I'm starting this other thread... I won't bother you with this any more; but I do sort of want to share a lot of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjBuP0oPbc  THis is just using some plastic yard trimmer line to make a neat fidget toy.


https://d3x0r.github.io/STFRPhysics/3d/index.html  I did make this demo to view rotations as natural angles instead of matrixes or truncated quaternions. (I know, mathy graphical things, but really, primordial to relativity (curvature), and quantum mechanical spin states.


If you move the Z slider .... no if you Click on the Z slider and then use the arrow keys to move it a couple ticks left or right.... and then click on the blue-ish ball and rotate to the right... You'll see some interesting shapes start to form... the primary curvature reminds me of a magnetic iso-potential flux line through a solenoid coil... where with very small rotations, the solenoid is tall and thin, and as you increase the rotations it becomes more circular - to the point of almost being circular... BUT that rotation line (which there's a curvature.md document in the git repository that describes this in more detail... and there's a link at the bottom of the demo to the repository)

https://overunity.com/18542/review-of-mobially-wound-coils12-abha


J


- There's no such thing in the real universe as a point, or a thing with infinite curvature.  there are things that go in a line with 0 curvature.
- 'curvature' and 'angle' mathematically are the same values and use the same functions; they're sort of like different units (degrees or radians, but more like cubic-centimeter and milli-liter) Angle sort of implies you had an origin you're rotating around, where curvature applies to the point whereever it is (if anywhere).




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« Reply #1870 on: July 10, 2020, 01:50:35 PM »
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« Reply #1871 on: July 11, 2020, 11:03:33 PM »
This is a double post. https://overunity.com/13925/toroidal-coils/msg547891/#msg547891

For the electrical engineers... If I count the turns, and count the radius, and get an LC, and measure that LC for a coil to be the same, the coil IS the same as any other coil of similar LC?


Then how would anyone ever know the difference.  This is NOT tough; and there is no trickery in the jump cuts.  No video I make and post or promote has ads or is expecting some personal gain from you watching it.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9kUO3Luzfw  (winding plastic coils with wire instead)

which becomes the test coil in these...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuIiA7TWzmY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUZyoQwoG9c


J

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« Reply #1872 on: July 12, 2020, 01:39:02 AM »
So... in the kapanadze aquarium video... there's this toroid slinkly like coil (apparently; you don't really know the inner geometry), with a spark gap that's a high voltage impulse generator.


The coils respond - transfer power, on the edges of a square wave....

and I'm just going to quote myself from somewhere else

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My friend the skeptic kept saying - look it's just like every other coil, don't you think over the past X hundred years... yadda yadda .... And it's the same resistance everywhere, even from people that are open to new ideas...

I understand we're all a lot jaded - disatisfied by any, really, even interesting result...
I kept trying to give away my lab ... free to a good home....  But the above requires no special ferrite, a pulse generator probably would work best - a very sharp impulse since that's what the ringback is anyway

I also have come to understand that although what I'm trying to show is plain as day and simple for me - like if anyone half cared to analyze these videos like kapanadze videos they'd actually not have that had of a time.  ... but at the same time I'm showing you  glass of water, and I'm saying it's fresh water, and not salt water, but you can't touch or do anything with it yourself, so all you can do is say well, test it like this... but I don't need to it's quite fresh... that's an entirely different glass of water over there.... and ... maybe ... this can show you it's really not so hard to get a couple glasses of water yourself?
'

J
I do Hope all are well...

Me; I don't really have a lot of time to wait around for confirmations from anyone; I dodn't know who else to implore to take a few arm-spans of wire and tinker....
It has a few inches of usable wireless tranfer range ; probably more if you had a proper resonance....

I may not have stressed enough - the reaction to get power on the pick coil is in no way resonance; it's a 'high' frequency because the LEDS were really only lighting on the leading edge... and I needed a lot of leading edges to make it bright...

And maybe I should be skeptical of myself, and say, If there is any trickery I did, I'm not are of it, and can't imagine what sort of trick I might have pulled when I wasn't looking.


-- Correction --
I did have one of the coils shorted on the one case, I can't prove any difference this way.
Wish someone else would have spoted - hey... those two blue wires... they shouldn't be together? Oh, right.


I'll have to keep diggging. Sorry

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1873 on: July 13, 2020, 09:24:29 PM »
I do have questions about what 'exactly' is 'a caduceus coil'


These are just shared from my account... I did post this video a while ago.


If the Green coil first shown is 'caduceus[/size]' ...


https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFKXQqDBqmZxBmP87 (video, only the first seconds matter) the rest are images.


Then isn't also this red wound coil?  That's just a single wire.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEJAZVugrWaTHPSc6




do crosses at the poles count?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/E3uKufigic37z3gn7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4d7nhDK4Upk5PFGy5


https://photos.app.goo.gl/JsfmxxtjoeENFs78A


https://photos.app.goo.gl/G6rUgUvkNBuaNUyL8  (bigger really isn't better...)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HgvzXfHTJYn9yDkr5 (collapsed)

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1874 on: July 14, 2020, 12:04:48 AM »
I do have questions about what 'exactly' is 'a caduceus coil'


These are just shared from my account... I did post this video a while ago.


If the Green coil first shown is 'caduceus[/size]' ...


https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFKXQqDBqmZxBmP87 (video, only the first seconds matter) the rest are images.


Then isn't also this red wound coil?  That's just a single wire.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEJAZVugrWaTHPSc6




do crosses at the poles count?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/E3uKufigic37z3gn7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4d7nhDK4Upk5PFGy5


https://photos.app.goo.gl/JsfmxxtjoeENFs78A


https://photos.app.goo.gl/G6rUgUvkNBuaNUyL8  (bigger really isn't better...)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HgvzXfHTJYn9yDkr5 (collapsed)


Follow the story on Wilbert B. SMITH.

Story said that geometry of caduceus coil was given to him from contacts with aliens as free energy coil.

http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/caduceus3.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/smith2.htm