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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1830 on: January 06, 2019, 09:19:15 PM »
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Nuclear power plant,  war ship,  civil planes,  sea cruisaders,  e-cash center,  e-archives,grid net

Hollywood + Science : fiction up to the date of reality. EMP-wars
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EMP= Pc+ Pi

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1830 on: January 06, 2019, 09:19:15 PM »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1831 on: January 07, 2019, 12:57:58 AM »
Wesley:    Oh, you're not having fun.
NickZ
Dear NickZ. what you do not  understand is that I'm  not against you.
I have nothing to lose  my dear friend.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529484/#msg529484
But you  do not want  to understand it.

I explained how to do it. https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529359/#msg529359
but nobody  wants to try it.
First you need to be successful in above link experiment.
The next step is extracting energy from  Schumann Waveguide.

Practically you can use https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=552
and  at point of  transmission line 6 you just put spherical capacitor from both sides. And spread Rx and Tx 20m apart. Make sure that you can  change the height of  both spheres in vertical position.( very important) 
Remember to ground both parts the Rx and Tx.
But nobody  wants to try it.

It does not matter NickZ how much you will try to be ugly to me.
You not the guy I will point my finger at. You are not one  of them.

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I do not have to give anything to anyone
, that is what Tariel told me.
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the bunch of guys putting  every dirt on me just because I have it and they don't.
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Wesley wake up. World shit at you and you trying to be nice, don't be naive
end of quote.
Just remember:
I'm not pizza for free, delivery man.
In the good mood   I may but I may not.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1832 on: January 07, 2019, 02:31:08 AM »
  I'm not against you either Wesley, nor is anyone else here.
  But, you are making wild claims, which you won't build or replicate any device first, or even show a working device, that can transfer energy at a distance. And relating that type of device to what Kapanadze has shown. As there is not yet a single device has been SHOWN to do that, actually.  And much less one that can do it without a man made energy input source.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1833 on: January 07, 2019, 03:42:47 AM »
That is a real threat  Wesley.


You saw it right. One more reason to make FE first and open source.


Do you agree?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1834 on: January 07, 2019, 05:57:42 AM »
Just my opinion: it is better to just publish your work in scientific journals  than giving out everything for free.  By publishing your work in journals or the like, this field will advance much faster. 


No matter how much you reveal, some individuals will never appreciate.  If you give out everything for free, you can invite more troubles, and this field will sooner or later become a landfill of hard work.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1835 on: January 07, 2019, 06:02:37 AM »
Just my opinion: it is better to just publish your work in scientific journals  than giving out everything for free.  By publishing your work in journals or the like, this field will advance much faster. 
No matter how much you reveal, some individuals will never appreciate.  If you give out everything for free, you can invite more troubles, and this field will sooner or later become a landfill of hard work.
Thank you my friend for your comment
Wesley.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1836 on: January 07, 2019, 12:28:50 PM »
I explained how to do it. https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529359/#msg529359
but nobody  wants to try it.
First you need to be successful in above link experiment.
The next step is extracting energy from  Schumann Waveguide.

Practically you can use https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=552
and  at point of  transmission line 6 you just put spherical capacitor from both sides. And spread Rx and Tx 20m apart. Make sure that you can  change the height of  both spheres in vertical position.( very important) 
Remember to ground both parts the Rx and Tx.
But nobody  wants to try it.

Hi Wesley. Well firstly, I replied to you on that and pointed out that the weather does not permit such
experiments where I am at this time of year. Secondly, that the suggested experiment requires
a fair bit of space. Those are two reasons that people may not want to try it right now, or at all. Also
it would take some doing to make such a setup, so people would need to understand first what the
purpose of that experiment is, which you did not explain. Go back and take a look at that post of yours,
you did not even mention what it is people should be looking for (what is the purpose, goal) in that particular
experiment. :)

Another issue is primarily major questions around your point 5: 
"5. Try to tune the transmitting structure primary coil using at first regular function generator.
It is tricky as you need right polyphase.
It should be close to 90 degrees ( not exactly  90) but I got it at 45 degrees."

What you say there in point 5 is very unclear. No one is likely going to try something
like that if they can't understand the basic idea of what they are supposed to be doing. :)

You mention: "Try to tune the transmitting structure primary coil using a regular function generator".
This does not make sense. I would guess you actually mean tune the frequency of the function generator?
If so, why did you say 'try tuning the TX primary coil'?
Tune the frequency of the function generator using what type of waveform? (sine wave, square wave, pulse train?)
What should people be looking for when they change the frequency?

Then you say: "It is tricky as you need right polyphase."
What polyphase? You said above to use one function generator, not two function generators, no? 
This makes no sense. Did you mean you need the exact specific frequency driving the TX primary winding
from the single signal generator connected to the TX primary, or what exactly? 

Then you say:
"It should be close to 90 degrees ( not exactly  90) but I got it at 45 degrees."
What exactly should be at close to 90 degrees? As you have stated it, this makes no sense.
Are you saying we need to drive the TX tesla coil with two function generators? If so, how exactly?
You would need to clarify exactly where and how you are measuring the 90 degrees.

In point 8 you say:
"8. make sure that your Tesla coil  works on its resonance frequency. So you must calculate or measure its  highest point of resonance.
NOT ITS HARMONIC resonance!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
So, if you want to tune the TX tesla coil secondary for resonance, why not just simply say to adjust the
frequency of the signal generator connected to the TX primary winding to the main resonance frequency of the TX secondary?
Why all this other stuff about a 'polyphase' and 90 degrees? It all does not appear to make much sense.
You would need to clarify all this.

Why say things is such a vague and confusing way? Do you really not realize how vague and confusing
the things you said there are? Wesley, not too many people are likely going to take the stuff you say too
seriously if you frequently say things that are very unclear or which make little sense. You also seem
to be implying that you have explained how Kapanadze's device works, but in reality all you have
said is that supposedly Kapanadze's setups tap into some sort of existing earth surface waves which operate
at a Schumann resonance frequency or frequencies. You have not explained in any way how feeding
coils with a 'polyphase' is able to draw in and make use of energy from such surface waves. In other
words, you have only made an assertion about where the energy is supposedly coming from, but have
not explained how such a setup is able to draw in energy from such surface waves.

A link to an antenna setup that supposedly detects Schumann frequencies in the earth seems to indicate
that such waveforms are very weak and therefore quite difficult to detect. How are such apparently weak
waveforms going to power kW's of light bulbs? None of this has been explained in any way.

Wesley, honestly I really think many people can't understand what it is you are trying to do here.
You claim to have a scientific background, yet you seem unable to express yourself in a clear way,
and you don't seem to understand that if you make assertions that you need to be able to back up those
assertions in a reasonable and clear way. My suggestion is to either say what you want to say in a
clear way, or it is better to say nothing at all. If no one understands exactly what you are trying to say,
and if you don't show in some reasonable way that what you are saying has some real merit, then
many people may just assume that you don't really know what you are talking about. Sorry if that
seems too critical, but it is where we are at with all this, IMO.

Personally, I do not expect anything from you, so it doesn't matter to me because I am quite content to
experiment with my own ideas and understandings about how these devices may work. I have pointed out to
you that Daly did not use any special 'counter' coil windings, yet he also demonstrated a self-runner, and Akula
seems to have based his first self-runner which he demonstrated on video on Daly's setup. Daly's setup
would seem to possibly indicate that the coil winding structure does not necessarily need some special
'counter' coil winding technique. Something for people to think about. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Offline Belfior

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1837 on: January 07, 2019, 12:38:32 PM »
   I already have free energy, well almost, as I'm only paying $15 per month on my electric bill.
   How much do you think that I could save by making a self running generator? Not much...

Well some of us are willing to spend our own money, so that everybody would have free energy and all men you could use their time on something else like maybe being with their families or plan interplanetary travel. Which is the next step after free energy. I can understand if you feel angry about things, but that is never very constructive. All you get is two sides fighting each other and not trying to solve problems. This is pretty much what the NWO plan is. Get people fighting each other.

If your goal is only to get that 15$ cost removed, then cancel Netflix and you can go about your business.

We have no hope as species, if we are on this forum just to make money. To get a working device and then quickly sell it to an oil company, so you can lay on a beach getting your dick sucked for the next 30 years.

The real powers do not dig ditches to get their money. They create debt out of thin air and make you pay it back with interest. US just prints money that is not backed by anything. There is only so much time they can do that. The dollar will collapse and somebody has to pay for it all. They are not going to, so get your shovel ready

This is obviously just my opinion, so you can leave it if you like

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1838 on: January 07, 2019, 12:42:37 PM »
Just my opinion: it is better to just publish your work in scientific journals  than giving out everything for free.  By publishing your work in journals or the like, this field will advance much faster. 


No matter how much you reveal, some individuals will never appreciate.  If you give out everything for free, you can invite more troubles, and this field will sooner or later become a landfill of hard work.

that could prove harder than just providing the study and results to the journal. It took 20 years to get papers to journals, that talked about genes being affected by environment. You need to find an editor, that actually has integrity

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1839 on: January 07, 2019, 01:07:22 PM »
also if you are planning to publish something, and that infringes US military patents, you are not going to publish or talk about it.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1840 on: January 07, 2019, 02:58:25 PM »
Hi Void,
You describe well the predicament that some of us find ourselves in. I think it fair to say that Wesley has up to now been unable to convert his surface wave theory either by description or demonstration, into an enginerable solution that could be deemed a plausible explanation for the modus-operandi of Kapanadze and similar devices. This may not entirely be his fault, as he has made it clear that there are constraints on what he can reveal and demonstrate. Furthermore, he is not asking us to believe in this theories, simply just to consider them. However, unfortunately in doing so, he inevitably attracts criticism, even insults by those who perhaps understandably find his posts difficult to understand, confusing and even condescending. I do feel that Wesley needs to reflect on these comments as I'm concerned that the discussion could become a lot more uncomfortable if he continues to overly push this theory in terms of post length and frequency.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1842 on: January 07, 2019, 05:27:25 PM »
Hi Hoppy. I sincerely doubt that anyone really knows where the extra energy is
coming from on these devices, assuming at least some really work as claimed.
I have my own ideas about how they might work, or at least on how to approach getting the effect,
and I am going to start conducting some experiments with that again soon, as I can find time.
My other setup I was testing with does not produce COP >1, but that was not surprising for me.
I just run tests on different scenarios so I can see exactly how they really perform in practice.
When we understand well how different configurations perform normally, we can then have a better
chance of identifying something that is out of the ordinary.

If someone really knows how these Kapanadze type of devices work, I doubt that they will openly reveal
it. If anyone really wants to try to figure this stuff out, IMO they really need to do their own experimentation in
a systematic way and figure things out for them self.  :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1843 on: January 07, 2019, 06:45:11 PM »
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If someone really knows how these Kapanadze type of devices work, I doubt that they will openly reveal
it.

best assumption i ever have  read  here.  :) the few individuals who know about will never open up


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1844 on: January 07, 2019, 06:46:59 PM »
#1
My dear friends I  will continue making notes to myself.
I will need them later on.

The use of guided electromagnetic waves for the wireless transmission of electrical energy has long been the subject of scientific investigation.
While attention is presently focused on the near-field inductive and far-field radiative techniques there is ongoing interest, as well, in the possibility
of using a terrestrial transmission line mode for wireless power transfer.
A history of surface wave theory development is provided, along with comments about the basic functionality of Tesla's
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7139133/keywords#keywords

Wesley
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