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Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1800 on: January 05, 2019, 03:12:55 AM »
Thank You LancaIV
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1801 on: January 05, 2019, 06:07:58 AM »
Yes please do it.
We may  assign his coil to one of concepts of Corum brothers.
Thank you.
By the way I did not list Daly
Look also at word: combined.
from text above.
Wesley

Hi Wesley. OK, after reviewing the pictures of Daly's coil disassembly, there was not
any special counter windings like Akula and Ruslan used that I can see. Daly did have have two
to three layers of wire for his output coil on one end of the coil form, but all the turns seems to have
been in the same direction for his output coil. He just seems to have wound it that way to be able to
fit all the turns he wanted for his output coil on there, and there was extra room at one end of the coil form
since the coax he used for the high voltage impulses didn't run the full length of his coil form.

I believe Akula first copied Daly's setup, and then made his own variations after that, of which Ruslan later copied.
I believe I see a common general approach in all these devices, and therefore I think I have the general idea of how
to try to replicate these devices. Once I finish my experiments with my current test setup not related to these devices,
I will try to do a proper replication of these type of devices based on the way I think these devices need to be configured.
If I get anything working, I will try to make a demo video. :)

I would say it is definitely still unknown where the extra energy is coming from for these devices, assuming they really work
as claimed and shown, and I am inclined to think Kapanadze may be sincere when he says he thinks the energy comes from the
'surrounding ambient environment'. In other words, I think no one is really quite sure where the actual energy is coming from, is my guess.
First a person has to get a setup of this type working, and then you can let the propeller-head physicists argue over where the energy
is really coming from. ;)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1802 on: January 05, 2019, 06:24:42 AM »
Hi SolarLab. Just read your last reply. Are you saying you are with the US government in some capacity?


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1803 on: January 05, 2019, 10:13:17 AM »
look at  picture 12a you have series  connection.
just cut out impedance matching box as if it  did not exist.You use it only if you need it.
You can do  the same with 12b
There you go
You may still call it parallel but  it is series with respect to ground
You may say there is no ground.
Than think about counterpoise.
Kapanadze concept was much more advanced but it was very unstable and highly reactive.
Kapanadze was trying to move his device only in vertical axis Y. Walking with it would ruin his show.
I did the same here with placing dielectric on the top of another.
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1174
and not to much.

Wesley
Yes, with 12a but not with 12b.
"You may say there is no ground."
"Than think about counterpoise."
"Walking with it would ruin his show."

So, its an inductive coupling from a TX ground coil??

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1804 on: January 05, 2019, 01:28:32 PM »
 Definition : Macro Regime and Quantum Regime ! https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4720642A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19880119&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
 Definition : Schumann resonances !  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances
 Pardon me, but let me become ( very, common ?) vulgar/" ordinaer" : Me interests a BS neither which NAME the energy to useable power spectrum has(ZPE,Vacuum,Near/Far, et cet.)   nor how the device ( at first) has to be constructed : common Tesla antenna, flat antenna,mesh/ array,   
 macro-/micro-machinery ..... !

  The first target is to reach a sustainable development aspect bewaring device which shall satisfy the first interests stage : available environmental energy conversion !
 Wesley,  yes resonance is suppressed in the grid network(as to read in the Dinnan/Meta-C papers), but begin to   
 think for example about small fluorescent bulb ballast and their ( "interference, mismatch)net grid distortion and think then bigger : industrial by 100 KW and more electric devices inertia/ inrush voltage or current phase !
 Maxwell- Wien displacement laws ! The comercial world pays for " Blindstrom/ apparent current" compensation !

 Off-grid (" island-solution) we can experiment with all physical possibilities ( caution : chance/ risk ratio ), on grid there are clearly physical and technical ( by concept) restrictions and limitations ! Which has to be respected ! By free will and law !
About Nikola Tesla : a great inventor ( honor : Physics Unit  : Tesla ) for the other side : how had been N. Tesla without the creative partnership with Charles, " Prometeus", Steinmetz ?How many " creative thinker" in the Tesla Labs saw their work later as " INVENTOR : Nicola Tesla, assigned".
                                             Loud thinking without reflex ex(s)pectation
                  "Denkmal des unbekannten Inventors" , Schweigesekunde (Minute , dafuer :P ,zu lang )
                                   DIE S(ch)AU MUSS GO ON ( or OFF)
 
Sincerely
  OCWL

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          Quantentheoretische Erweiterng 
       Boltzmann : What is a " black" what is a " white" body,  STRICT BLACK or STRICT WHITE : dB,nm,eV !
     ( what is in Quantum Physics : body)    "Ultra-Violett"- Katastrophe ,
      is to enter a " Katastrophe"- stage a need , to preserve from ?
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1805 on: January 05, 2019, 02:32:00 PM »

Hi everyone,


I am curious if kapanadze coil(maybe input coil) itself needs to emit ions during kacher interrupter off state.Akula or someone had mentioned about this few years ago but information stored became fragmented. :'(


After watching Tariel first video taken from bedroom and Akula older device.I noticed that both devices operated from high dc voltage after rectified 220volts main as provided from inverter.


It wouldn't make sense to use high voltage WIMA or microwave oven capacitor after 3 turns from yoke if we are using low voltage 12 or 24volts to power the yoke or toroid.


The last time(few years ago) I tried using rectified dc voltage from 12volts to 220volts inverter using typical pwm generator without kapanadze coil attached and found out after 3..4 turns from my large nanocrystalline toroid  produce around 210Vpp.



Base on recent experiment with div by 3 circuit prev attached-Achieving higher stable frequencies from kapanadze coil after kacher was power on did not produce any high enough voltage <30Vpp to even power up a isolated A/C to dc converter.

This is something to consider why high voltage capacitor was used in the first place.
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Screenshot attached from my old video to reveal voltage from 3turns  in which the toroid was powered by high voltage dc supply using pwm circuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGRPKNhC_TE

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1806 on: January 05, 2019, 03:07:38 PM »
Hi Belfior.
It sounds like you are having a frustrating search finding the G. Kron article. ;)
If you can't find a copy of the article online, you can try going to
a library and see if they can find the article for you. They can check if any libraries
out there have a copy, and can possibly get a copy of the article for you if they can find the
particular publication at a library out there. A university library may be able to help you find it
if a public library can't help you. Give them the following info:
G. Kron, The frustrating search for a geometrical model of electro-dynamic networks.
Tensor (new series), 13, 111 - 128 (1963).

However, Gabriel Kron was by all indications a complete and total propeller head.
Unless you are comfortable with advanced math as applied to complex engineering topics
you may not understand much about what he wrote about in that article, but you never know.
There might be a few interesting tidbits in there that aren't expressed in complex mathematical equations.

Yeah I contacted some sites, that had other The Tensor articles and a university, that has them all. The university has all of them PAST that date, when Kron published his :(

I would like to learn tensor math and systems analysis, but I also have a life. I just want to read what Kron actually said. The other tidbits in Kron's books are pretty interesting like "Maxwell breaks down if the system is moving" and it seems to mean that you get anomalies, if the coils and other components are rotating


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1807 on: January 05, 2019, 04:25:21 PM »
I spoke about efficiency of antennas.
We do not care about Far Field We only care about reactive not radiative region,
look at picture; https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/171104/image//
At Schumann resonances (< 30 Hz), the wavelength is > 10,000 Km
Here is  small practical antenna at Schumann bandwidth.
Note:  the-same question is repeated twice in this post.
It is not even necessary for an antenna to resonate, it is just a matter of impedance matching with the power source).
Can not disagree with you more.
So put  50 Ohm, purely resistive load, at the end of your 50 ohm transmission line ( coaxial  cable ) and be happy.
You do not even need any antenna
.
You are shocking me more and more.
What is your goal?

Some  explanation to you:
e.g: When series circuit is at resonance both reactive components of impedance  Xc and Xl are out of phase 180  cancel each other. the total current will be E=I*R . R never cancels .
( "phase"  is not,  to say it correctly, a property of reactance itself.) the max signal is out at that given  frequency only (+/- width of the bandwidth)
Impedance is the total opposition to AC current.  !!!! I hope it helps you F6FLT to understand it better.
Ohm’s Law for impedance as : I = E / Z–Symbolized by the letter Z (in Ohms),
includes both Resistance and Reactance (May be stated as a value and angle, i.e.100/_45o–May be stated as R + jX, i.e. 10 + j20)
Some material for F6FLT to read: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/32fb/ebcb46e2420cef0a1c5e373f4ba4c1067b39.pdf
The shortest antenna sizes used in practice are about 1/10 of a wavelength and they are poor. At Schumann resonances (< 30 Hz), the wavelength is > 10,000 Km.
  We are not talking about transmitting  but about Receiving dear F6FLT.
Here you have below  2m long Schumann frequencies  antenna .
 
If you only have ad personam arguments and old useless patents to present in support of your fairy tales, no wonder you have not yet been seen to be involved in any experiment.
That old  patent comes from Corum . The same Corum who is about to put Russian  Oil Empire  in to  insignificant event in world  history.
This is the same Corum from 1988 and 2018 with over  billion dollars in assets and  close to  half of the billion dollars investment.
This is the same Corum behind Texzon and Viziv
This is the same Corum who  has US Army Generals recognized  Scientists, Universities and  wealthy known investors in its team.
 

 :)
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1808 on: January 05, 2019, 05:01:25 PM »
ELF antenna...

These antennas have long been made by hams around the world. You can buy an industrial manufactured such antenna.
The output is very, very weak signal, cannot usable as FE/OU.


https://www.aaronia.com/products/antennas/Magnotracker-ELF-6/
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Internal Amplifier: 25dB (optional 35dB), battery powered (3-4 hours) or continuosly powered via included power supply
(25 dB - is the first preamp stage.)
Work with such an antenna is possible only with the use of several additional low noise amplifiers with a gain of 10,000 or more. And a very good filter is also needed, otherwise nothing except the background of 50 - 60 Hz can be seen.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1809 on: January 05, 2019, 05:36:41 PM »
Hi magpwr,

I am very familiar with the theories on "longitudinal waves" or "scalar waves" in free space, and I have led my own experiments in this field. This allowed me to transmit a signal of 2 KHz over more than 50 m.

What emerges from these experiments, which Eric Dollar, K J Van Vlaenderen, Konstantin Meyl and others have promoted is that everything is perfectly explained by the electric and magnetic fields that extend around the oscillating circuits, but without propagating.
Capacitive and/or magnetic couplings are sufficient to pass a little energy in the near field region, as through a transformer from which the primary is moved away from the secondary, or through a capacitor from which a plate is moved away from the other, the effect being enhanced by the resonance of the circuits, especially when there is a common ground (or single wire).

Other experiments outside the near field region, including some of Meyl and that one indeed more serious from C Monstein, are obviouly polluted by classical hertzian waves with which longitudinal waves are confused.

The best possibility I found of longitudinal waves is described here (pdf), but it's not confirmed: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QEX_Next_Issue/Jul-Aug_2012/Works_QEX_7_12.pdf


This. Is really good.  Not related. but good. I do Very Much Thank You for the link F6FLT
Some headache for my friends in science.

Wesley

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« Reply #1810 on: January 05, 2019, 06:09:45 PM »
Hi there interesting work but must have cost a lot and you must have spent a lot of time building it too.

Can I just show you an attempt I recently made to do some of Wesly's ideas to see if they work for me
I have used one of my collection of Tesla coils  8) ;D Most of them well all of them tune down to 8hz
one way or another ie 'F' of the coil / by 8 to a whole number no remainder, they all do it. this one I'm showing
here tunes at 1,386,152 Hz / 432 (8 and 9) = 3211
I have yet to rewind the top layer to 90deg  phase shift and retest with my cd4013  phase shift circuit.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2019, 09:35:01 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1811 on: January 05, 2019, 06:13:39 PM »
Ionized gas or water in a glass, distilled or not, all this is equivalent to thick iron nail for microwave.
My last experiments, a radio transparent box with highly purified, distilled and deionized water 10 mm thick of water, covers the waveguide with microwave 22 GHz 200 milliwatts completely. 200 milliwats without water little warms the skin on the fingers. With the water - absolutely nothing on output is detected by the microwave diode, 1 millivolt. The detector diode D606 (USSR) works up to 50 GHz and above.
Without water - diode rectifies 2 volts.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1812 on: January 05, 2019, 06:18:29 PM »

Here you have below  2m long Schumann frequencies  antenna .
 That old  patent comes from Corum . The same Corum who is about to put Russian  Oil Empire  in to  insignificant event in world  history.

Wesley

Happy new year.


Nothing is making much sense to me with this surface wave theory in relation to kapanadze's devices. Is anyone on this thread following Wesley's logic?

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« Reply #1813 on: January 05, 2019, 06:30:41 PM »
Nothing is making much sense to me with this surface wave theory in relation to kapanadze's devices. Is anyone on this thread following Wesley's logic?
Hoppy My Dear Friend.
As I said there is a need for only one of you, who will play  with it and succeed.
This part of forum was originally rather for my public notes.
I was lucky enough that someone can see it entertaining .
Other than that..
- it doesn't hurt  to have a helping hand now and then . Right?
The most what counts is intention, the rest is just the matter of time.
At worse you end up with energy transmission device from point A to point B.
At best you get  to much more effective experience.
That is  what we expect from life.

Wesley

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« Reply #1814 on: January 05, 2019, 06:36:11 PM »
Hoppy My Dear Friend.
As I said there is need for only one of you, who will play  with it and succeed.
This part of forum was originally rather for my public notes.
I was lucky enough that someone can see it entertaining .
Other than that..  it doesn't hurt  to have a helping hand now and then . Right?
The most what counts is intention, the rest is just the matter of time.

Wesley
Dear Wesley, I wish you every success - you deserve that.

 

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