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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 859497 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1560 on: July 05, 2019, 01:50:24 PM »
https://overunity.com/18269/revolutionary-air-conditioner/msg536149/#new
near/far field effect  ?does the electric earth surface network, distribution  by wire, change the earth/orbital magneto-/iono-sphere density  ?
how will be the effect by propagated limitless  wireless transmission  ?
The Dmitriev publishing is from 1998;

                                          Specific attention : point 3.2. ....
1998-2019 : who is observing this electro-magnetic planetar/solar system/interstellar progress

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1561 on: July 06, 2019, 09:28:45 PM »
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 07:15:46 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1562 on: July 07, 2019, 01:02:02 AM »
  The 4.9 meter 1.82 MHz surface wave probe and field strength measurements (out to  20 miles)
 compared  with  predicted  fields  for  Zenneck[/font], a λ/4 tower (with 120 radials),
and the actual [/font]Norton vertical stub with only an 8 ft. ground rod at the base of the pole. 
2/12/2016:
C = 45 pF, VRMS= 42.4 volts, εr= 15, σ = 0.012, Rg= 35 Ω. For radiation: h/λ = 0.030, Rr]= 1.38 Ω, ηr = 3.8%.
for  exact wording look at picture 3  below
with the same text.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1563 on: July 07, 2019, 01:51:48 AM »
characterization of equipment used in J.Corum experiment
http://thehistoryofrecording.com/Test_Equipment/Manuals/HP/HP3200B.pdf

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1564 on: July 07, 2019, 02:15:37 AM »
some other choices for amplifier
for 1.8MHz and   others for 52MHz
Recommended is much simpler setup  that requires only
one box.
It is
TS-2000  or any other equivalent
at 52MHz  that is Ham radio band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxvd7Hts-hw&list=PL0-gH_7Nm60Zkogw5sdlSTcOseWaefHI6

this video shows operation  at 52MHz -( 6 meter band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Q9AVM7lsU

this video shows operation  at 1.8MHz -( 160 meter band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgGylgeU4SY

this video shows the remote  head TM-D700a  of
The Kenwood TS-B2000 is a 'silver box' version of the TS-2000.
Picture of  this   Transceiver is  below 

   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSKQYPRrI-Y



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1565 on: July 07, 2019, 02:58:51 AM »
The advantages and disadvantages of  using  Ham Transceiver  instead of J.Corum  setup.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536279/#msg536279
Advantages:
1.  one box operation
2. only battery is required to power  the device  or AC.
3. fast automatic tuning
4. visual observation of SWR
5.  if  Ts-B2000 is used   than  it is even more convenient:
a. remote head TM-D700a is  connected with 6ft -12ft cable.
b.
radio can be   in convenient position and head can be    next to your  eye  view.
c.
when Tesla coil is used than  TS-B2000 can be  at some distance say 54ft and head can be  another 12ft from the  radio

Disadvantages :
1.
when  SWR/ VSWR is to  big ( mismatch 1-3  and  more ) you  shouldn't
    use  continuous carrier as you may damage the power  transistor
note : front-end transistor term  is reserved to  Rx  not to Tx  (and  that confuses some of  you)

2. High Standing wave is not friendly environment for  Transceivers.


recommendation:
 use of  Transmatch
 http://www.arrl.org/transmatch-antenna-tunercan help lot.
note : TS  2000  and TS-b2000  both have automatic antenna  tuner  however  additional   transmatch/ antenna tunner is  recommended.


1. switch Tx to CW.
2. connect  Key
or
3. automatic  keyer
4. don't allow  continuous long dashes  better use dots.

reasoning:
1.
Tx  has approximately  the  same amount of  time to rest between  dots  or  short   dashes (as is used to transmit.)
2.
The power transistor  cool-down is very effective between  signals.

original  link  that   post is  related  to :
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536259/#msg536259
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1566 on: July 07, 2019, 03:37:37 AM »
Advantages
of  use J Corum configuration:

commercial amplifiers are very tough.
-strong enough to withstand adverse conditions or rough or careless handling.
- most of  them  have overload circuitry.
- lowering  voltage from signal generator you can  regulate output power from PA.
-you can deliver  to PA  sinusoidal signal or any other  waveform  of your choice.



Disadvantages
of  use J Corum configuration:

-when  you  blow your amplifier - you can say goodby to  it.
 
and you will be  hunting for another one for quite a good time.

Note:
-
this equipment is 3 times  more  expensive than Kenwood TS-2000
  but ham  equipment is often very  cheap and  easy  to find.
  at best on hamfest.

- you can use any of other  transceivers  e.g Yesu.
   there is large  amount of 100W output   Mobile  transceivers with remote head,.


Note:
Use of unmodulated  CW  (A1   European standard known as A1)   is   your sinusoidal signal.
Use of     modulated  CW  (A2   European standard known as A2) with usually 800 Hz- 1kHz  signal   is   your "square signal."equivalent  if keyed.

The difference  is that that in 
A2 - you are dealing here with modulated carrier at length of dots or  dashes mechanically activated but electronically spaced.
However for effect of J. Corum there is no difference.
Preferred is A1


Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1567 on: July 07, 2019, 04:57:19 AM »
Configuration for test:
1 take  J.Corum equipment  and connect it as shown here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536161/#msg536161

or

1a.take Kenwood TS-b2000 or any other  e.g Yesu and  you don't need anything  else

1b. make  sure that frequency  of Tx or Trasceiver is  52MHz.
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2. connect surface wave probe  to  output of   your Tx or amplifier.
2a. if using TS-b2000  you have  additional   transmatch it is your big benefit.
2b.connect your  transmatch (antenna  tuner) between   surface wave probe and your TS-b2000

Note:
Your surface wave probe is  your Tesla coil.The load of your  Tx or Amplifier  or  your transmatch  is  your primary winding of Tesla  coil The secondary of your Tesla coil must be grounded

The parameters of  Tesla coil  for 2200m  are given here.
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=367

use 1.8MHz and  remember that it is 1600m and not 2200m
as indicated on the picture .
is  easy to re-tune 
The  lower the  frequency the   more winds is required.
the  higher the  frequency the  less winds is required

At minimum of 54ft you need to have another Tesla coil acting  as a  receiver.
the distance  can be greater  but not smaller than that

]top capacitor must!!! have means of  being adjusted in elevation measured from the ground!!
Structure  of  the mast , must be made   from dielectric e.g PCV sliding telescoping   UP/DOWN

Another means of  height  change of  Top  Capacitor is to hung it on   a  balloon  or between  to  masts.  used  to  elevate the Top Capacitor.
The rope used to lift the Top Capacitor UP    can   not be made  from  wire or "dielectric".  it must be natural    string or  thin  rope.

   

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1568 on: July 07, 2019, 05:09:30 AM »
Top capacitor must  be quite large  at best.
to  prevent  sparks.
It can look like Doughnut  .
The minimum distance of Top Capacitor from the  ground  is 4x its diameter.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1569 on: July 07, 2019, 05:12:31 AM »
Adjustment of  distance from  ground of Top Capacitor is  the  most important
factor of  launching Zenneck Surface wave  .

AFTER SUCCESSFUL test  using   power  transfer  in  the  interface in form  of  Zenneck  Surface wave
the experimenter is ready to step 2
-extracting energy (FE) from Schumann  waveguide. 

Wesley
I don't take  any responsibility for your action.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1570 on: July 08, 2019, 07:23:20 PM »
Top Capacitor of Tx

1. It is the structure that is   adjusted in elevation / extended  in height
(the measurement from base to top).

2. It has shape  of preferred   head of  the mushroom..
It can be  however  done from  aluminum "air tube"
Flexible Aluminium Air Ducting Ventilation Accessory
also called : Hose Application: Duct / Exhaust
picture 1

3.It's capacitance can be increased  by internal mechanism of
tube inside of  another tube  with  air  or  Teflon dielectric.
However  other means are allowed by  sliding  piece  of  inner tubing/s
the  effect of such is capacitance match  to desired F of resonance. (picture 1b)

4. Viziv used  on  the  top of  the doughnut additional half semi spherical  structure  .
To increase capacitance  nad manipulate with capacitive reactance of Top Capacitor

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1571 on: July 08, 2019, 08:17:05 PM »
Position of  Top Capacitor:

Since Viziv tower is fixed there is no way  to change  potion of Top capacitor in Vertical elevation.
We  may assume that there is whole  mechanism   inside of the  space of 
Top  Capacitor to change capacitance of  the  Top Capacitor.

The  Umbrella /(Ambrela) inside of  space  above the  torus.
Wesley


 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1572 on: July 08, 2019, 09:11:54 PM »
Next subject to  discuss is :
cylindrical waves

1.- point source
2.  line source
3.  wave front
4.  cylindrical wave behavior in Near Field

This is crucial information to  understand   How Surface wave  is  created in the interface Earth/Air
 I will finish  this article later.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1573 on: July 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM »
Cylindrical Wave :
Electric field  is perpendicular  to the direction of propagation  and is  gradually  decreasing   with  the distance from Tesla  tower.
Line source    must be  cylindrical  - so is Tesla coil
Magnetic field is   at 90 degrees  to electric field  and fits into  the Earth/ air  area called   -  interface.
This   is our  TM  mode.   

Note:
picture 3 is showing Cylindrical Wave
in  medium - Air.
There are two views  the  top one  is at slight tilt.
The  lower on e  is  at YZ coordinates.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1574 on: July 10, 2019, 02:53:05 PM »

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4  dielectric excitation . 
Wesley :
the  bottom  line is  that Pastukhov method
- misinterprets the phenomena
 

Viziv is using phase shift (time delay) to compensate for wave tilt so they can get physical wave at precise angle (brewster angle LoL).

 polarization  of the single TEM wave to  see it   in TM  mode and   in interface.

- Top Capacitor  of that ( single) HV winding of Tesla coil produces Standing Wave
- Vertical elevation  of  that Top  Capacitor is making the  trick
 to receive  that surface  wave is need  another Tesla coil  54 foot in the distance or more  from
the  first one.
that  Tesla  Coil can( but doesn't have to)  look like  Tx ( the transmitting  Tesla   Coil)
And (for    the  moment)  nothing more.

 
I have never came across anything about surface wave, em wave polarization , time delay of a wave
while reading about Tesla or his work.
Jonathan Zenneck  made it known in 1901.
Sommerfeld added to it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Zenneck
http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_039.htm

Tesla would find it .  but he was  cut short with money .
-Marconi in Bolinas Ca in 1921/4 was restricted by ( government decision with use of RCA )


 
They all claim he used EM wave ( Radio wave ) for transfer of energy, but all his patents state otherwise .
Then you can read in his colorado springs notes that he used non radiating wave .
Can you give me   link to  the  exact quote and page saying  it?


Scottish physicist Sir David Brewster (1781–1868)
Brewster, David (1815). "On the laws which regulate the polarisation of light by reflexion from transparent bodies".
Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London.
This guy did his research  years before Tesla so Tesla must know this and came up with idea of
using this polarization not only for light waves but for EM too.
So why all  publications talk about ground currents (NORTON) and non of them mention Zenneck surface wave.
Sommerfeld, Arnold, "Uber die Ausbreitung der Wellen in der Drahtlosen Telegraphie"
(Tr. The Propagation of Waves in Wireless Telegraphy) 1909
Zenneck, Jonathan, "Über die Fortpflanzung ebener elektromagnetischer Wellen längs einer ebenen Leiterfläche und ihre Beziehung zur drahtlosen Telegraphie"
(Tr. "About the propagation of electromagnetic plane waves along a conductor plane and their relationship to wireless telegraphy") 1907
At Colorado Springs, in May 1899, Tesla, several of his assistants, and a local contractor commenced the construction of T
esla's laboratory shortly after arriving in Colorado Springs, Colorado

That means Tesla did it a decade before first theoretical paper has been published. Where we can find information related to this research.
Is it suppressed, lost , or it never happen.




Wesley
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