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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 585017 times)

Offline tinman

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1365 on: December 15, 2018, 09:30:56 AM »
Hoppy this is about all i have found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7C1b7-w3Hs

but if your thinking of sucking energy from the ground here, think about how thunder and lightning works!
the ground must be more negative than the sky so to do that won't you need produce a high positive pulse?
But remember although it's more positive than the ground it's still more negative than the sky  ;D ;D

Actually,the clouds become negatively charged at the bottom,and  positively charged at the top.
Once the charge separation becomes high enough,the negative charge discharges to !what is now! a positively charged earth surface.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1366 on: December 15, 2018, 10:02:12 AM »
   Well guys, this is getting to be more and more like the original Kapanadze mother thread.
We only need about 1400 more pages like these, to equal it.
   Isn't this fun...
Hopefully Wesley can break the looping with his 'bombshell' video.  :-\

Offline r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1367 on: December 15, 2018, 11:12:42 AM »
Maybe for the fact that nobody tries to place mercury, which is a fuel.

https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg195032/#msg195032

Mercury is banned and threatened with imprisonment in my country. There are other harmful substances, too, and they do not have such restrictions. That would be interesting. Of course, mercury is harmful, so everyone knows.

Does Kapanadze use mercury?

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1368 on: December 15, 2018, 11:18:19 AM »
@Hoppy and Void

Thanks for the information about measurements of the ground wire with a clamp ammeter.
Nevertheless I'm afraid it's by far not enough: a clamp ammeter is generally designed for low frequencies (less than 10 KHz, ideally the mains frequency) and for sine signals. If there are RF currents it can be totally disturbed due to resonance or antiresonance in the inner coil. A trick consisting to put RF power in the wire couldn't clearly be viewed. As already mentionned, extraordinary claim require indisputable facts, especially when no other elements allow a duplication.

Agreed. To my knowledge no proper and thorough or even rudimentary technical examination has been carried out on the Kapanadze devices.

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1369 on: December 15, 2018, 12:31:12 PM »
Agreed. To my knowledge, no proper and thorough or even rudimentary technical examination has been carried out on the Kapanadze devices.
Wwoo! shock horror now, are you really surprised? It's my guess that's because it would be easy to find out how it worked
and by all accounts, it costs big money to visit and view and any hands-on is forbidden.
Mr. A King is the guy to talk to.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2018, 03:10:57 PM by AlienGrey »

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1370 on: December 15, 2018, 01:01:12 PM »
Wwoo! shock horror now, are you really surprised? It's my guess that's because it would be easy to find out how it worked
and by all accounts, it costs big money to visit and view and any hands-on is forbidden.
No of course not. I was just giving a primary reason why I agree with F6FLT that we are all engaged in idle speculation about whether or not Kapanadze's devices are genuine self-runners.

Offline Belfior

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1371 on: December 15, 2018, 03:49:03 PM »
I don't agree. Kapanadze filed a patent. A patent is a publicity for an invention intended to be used in the general interest of people while respecting the intellectual property of the inventor. So this is proof that Kapanadze wants to prove something. If he has filed a patent that cannot be used, that is what we are seeing,  it is cheating and he is accountable.
The only excuse I could see, which in fact is not really one, is that he has something but he is unable to understand the least reason of the functioning. This would explain why he is not cooperative because someone else could find the cause and filed another patent including the principle of functioning. In any case, once again, we are involved in idle speculation from which Kapanadze's device never comes out!

I have to take you off my "Exxon Mobil agent list" !

Now this is what I have been also thinking. If this guy just wants to get a new car and some vodka, he could totally file a bogus patent claim. I mean the first thing a serious investor asks is if there is a patent. What I have read he worked with some turkish peeps, but they just tried to steel the tech.

I think this is the MO of many youtube miracles like Muammer Yildiz. His gimmick is to start the battery powered magnet motor with a hammer blow that releases the brake. People get startled and the then the generator goes to full RPM in a second. This makes them think "OH WOW!". Gimme one other reason you would start a PM generator with a hammer blow?

Now for the second reason. The way TK said to Wesley that he will give the tech away to the world, but then did not tells me that he is on the fence if he can actually make money on it. This could mean he does not know how the machine actually works. Maybe he accidentally found out that when you put x+y+z together you gather more energy from the ambient than you put in. Maybe he hit something like Tesla's oscillator, that you can formulate only with quaternions http://www.cheniere.org/references/TeslaOSC.pdf

But since he does not know how it actually works, he can't scale it. He tries to put 2x+y+z in and the effect is gone.

He did say it is so simple, that you will laugh when you find out. That is why his boxes are filled with crap, so people could not see that it is just x+y+z


Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1372 on: December 15, 2018, 05:27:30 PM »
@Hoppy and Void

Thanks for the information about measurements of the ground wire with a clamp ammeter.
Nevertheless I'm afraid it's by far not enough: a clamp ammeter is generally designed for low frequencies (less than 10 KHz, ideally the mains frequency) and for sine signals. If there are RF currents it can be totally disturbed due to resonance or antiresonance in the inner coil. A trick consisting to put RF power in the wire couldn't clearly be viewed. As already mentionned, extraordinary claim require indisputable facts, especially when no other elements allow a duplication.

Hi F6FLT. It appears you did not read my reply to you. I already stated clearly that I was
fully aware that there are factors that could potentially make the clamp ammeter readings unreliable.
However, since we don't know the frequency and type of waveform(s) which were on the ground wire and output wire,
it is unknown if those current readings were at all accurate or not. However, the readings seemed to be ballpark for
the rough amount of power the light bulbs were apparently consuming.

I don't agree. Kapanadze filed a patent. A patent is a publicity for an invention intended to be used in the general interest of people while respecting the intellectual property of the inventor. So this is proof that Kapanadze wants to prove something. If he has filed a patent that cannot be used, that is what we are seeing,  it is cheating and he is accountable.
The only excuse I could see, which in fact is not really one, is that he has something but he is unable to understand the least reason of the functioning. This would explain why he is not cooperative because someone else could find the cause and filed another patent including the principle of functioning. In any case, once again, we are involved in idle speculation from which Kapanadze's device never comes out!

What you write here is of course just at the level of speculation, calling it 'proof' to try
to bolster what you prefer to believe; AKA rationalization. People typically file patents to
try to protect their 'intellectual property'. Those patents were filed in conjunction with a company
that Kapanadze was working with at the time. From what I have seen, it is not so uncommon for people
to file patent applications and leave out critical details in order to establish them self as the 'inventor',
but still not give away the 'critical secrets' of the invention. Possibly that is what they were trying to do.
I don't know. Anyway, as I have said I am not much interested in baseless speculation. You are free
to believe and assume anything you like, but I will reserve judgment until I see some actual credible
evidence either way.

« Last Edit: December 15, 2018, 09:19:06 PM by Void »

Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1373 on: December 15, 2018, 06:03:47 PM »
http://www.cheniere.org/references/TeslaOSC.pdf
...... you can see most of it, but till now you could not  explain it.
Gush...
Think about two stones in your hands and spark you can make with them.
what is  spark?
Photon right?
What is Photon?
Is it a carrier of electromagnetic energy that exists in field of quantum physics right?
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131207012331AAHhSp0&guccounter=1


F6FLT you are suppose to be  the smart guy  here?
Say something about mystery of Tariel Kapanadze and rest of the other guys presenting  FE.. including Ted Annis.
Oh I forgot,  your genius is  till now employed  in field of  criticizing and negative feedback.

What do you know  about  waveguide? probably a  lot right?
What do you know  about  stripline probably something. right?
http://www.bitweenie.com/listings/microstrip-vs-stripline
What is  TEM you should know already from  my articles about Vziv.
What is the difference between TEM and regular EM wave?
What are the TM and TE modes of TEM and how do they apply to waveguide such as earth/ionosphere?
Does surface wave only  travel in interface?
Does it looks  more like squashed elephant or squashed ant ? and why and when ?
And what the most important: what is the role of dielectric in  TM mode.
That should put little light to  why
Tariel used coaxial cable in  presentation  made to me. https://youtu.be/IAPe3DiYt2o?t=162
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5003177A/en

Think about frequency  of the spark... made by two stones strike
-is it 10kHz? or is likely  in nano-meter range or it is both?
-does  it create X-ray?

The higher frequency it is the higher is the  energetic potential of one single period of the wave.
The higher is the chance of such photon to interact with matter.
Energy of photon is measured in eV, keV, MeV - Mega electron Volt (million   electron   volts) per each and every photon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt



 

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1374 on: December 15, 2018, 06:43:00 PM »
Wesley,
I really think that you should seriously consider changing the title of this thread!  :(

Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1375 on: December 15, 2018, 06:55:20 PM »
Wesley,
I really think that you should seriously consider changing the title of this thread!  :(
Read my previous post again.
Wait for my video keep in mind coaxial cable and dielectric.
It helps a lot.
I will at least partially explain mystery.


Wesley

Offline r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1376 on: December 15, 2018, 08:11:21 PM »
This is not a coaxial cable! This is the HV cable from spark plugs (car). This is clearly visible.

If you watched your film carefully, you would have seen it. Same cable but green and blue is GreenBox/Kapanga version.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1377 on: December 15, 2018, 09:22:58 PM »
Wesley,
I really think that you should seriously consider changing the title of this thread!  :(

Hi Hoppy. What do you feel is off topic with regards to: "Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum" ?
(I still haven't watched that video section yet, but I will get to it as soon as I have a chance. I am running around today. ) :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1378 on: December 15, 2018, 10:02:15 PM »
Hi Hoppy. What do you feel is off topic with regards to: "Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum" ?
(I still haven't watched that video section yet, but I will get to it as soon as I have a chance. I am running around today. ) :)
Hi Void,
I have re-looked at those frames many times and I'm still uncertain about things because of poor video quality but my instinct is telling me that if there is a trick then its the bearded man dealing it.
To put it crudely, I feel that the thread is becoming an academics pissing contest!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1379 on: December 15, 2018, 10:43:28 PM »
This is not a coaxial cable! This is the HV cable from spark plugs (car). This is clearly visible.

If you watched your film carefully, you would have seen it. Same cable but green and blue is GreenBox/Kapanga version.
It does not make any difference  if it is coaxial cable or just HV spark cable.
The only that counts is  1 conductor and dielectric.
Yes dielectric is the most important here.
It was a need for  so many years to get to this  conclusion.
That is why I ask all of these questions  our friend F6FLT
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/172642/why-does-a-capacitor-create-a-90-degree-phase-shift-of-voltage-and-current
Wesley