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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 589563 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1350 on: December 14, 2018, 08:34:29 PM »
My dear Wesley, I know that. You saw the device. And I and hundreds of people saw the amazing Dynamo walking on the water:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt2yu2
Does that prove he can walk on water?!

Years ago there was a guy use to run a sword through his heart, he used to boast about it, it was on TV live you couldn't fake it, it's very bad Satanic stuff, but true.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1351 on: December 14, 2018, 08:36:18 PM »
I have not closed the door on OU. More power out than being input,
but with no discernible source of where the excess energy is coming from.
To that I say maybe.

Energy from seemingly nowhere may seem quite illogical, but I will let my tests
tell me what is really possible. Sometimes our thinking leads us astray, and
that can work in all directions.  8)
You just contradicted yourself.
anytime you take energy out it creates shortage of that energy.
anytime  you take water out from the cap creates shortage of that water.
That is why overunity does not exist and never existed
Energy must come from somewhere and be converted to usable to us form of energy
Conversion takes energy too.


Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1352 on: December 14, 2018, 08:43:41 PM »
You just contradicted yourself.
anytime you take energy out it creates shortage of that energy.
anytime  you take water out from the cap creates shortage of that water.
That is why overunity does not exist and never existed
Energy must come from somewhere and be converted to usable to us form of energy
Conversion takes energy too.
Wesley

Hi Wesley. I said 'no discernible source' and 'seemingly'.
I think that should clarify what I mean there.
I realize that energy is not supposed to just appear from nowhere.
It should be coming from 'somewhere', or at least this is our current accepted view.  :)

P.S. There was no contradiction in what I said.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1353 on: December 14, 2018, 08:44:25 PM »
Thank you for responding my dear  Friend Ramset
But I did want to ask Wesley if he has Gas spectrometer to test 1 MM iron wire for a McFarland Cook replication ?few samples to check for iron purity ?
Chet
Optical Emission Spectrometer you have in mind. I assume?
or if it is  EDXRF I have it  SEA5120 by Seiko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3gPFfgDp8&t=770s
However my LN2 plant is not working now.

Please specify  field of testing
Please provide me with link to  experiment.

I have choice concentrate on making my video or do something else.
The crowd is waiting and may become  impatient.
Since I mentioned  me as home grown, self-made  filmmaker  I would like to deliver  quality too.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1354 on: December 14, 2018, 08:54:38 PM »
builders discussion thread
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3677.msg70487;topicseen#msg70487
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last page of topic prior to sourcing material for replicators//   http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1616.msg70418;topicseen#msg70418//

--not wishing to sidetrack here ,will be a topic at this forum once I can get the right wire from 1870 period   to start builds

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1355 on: December 14, 2018, 08:57:38 PM »
Optical Emission Spectrometer you have in mind. I assume?
Please specify  field of testing
Please provide me with link to  experiment.
Wesley

I believe Ramset was asking if you have some equipment which can test a sample of iron wire for iron purity.

McFarland Cook was a guy in the past who many locals considered to be crazy because he said he was
going to turn a metal storage shed on his property into a flying machine using his claimed free energy generator
invention. He submitted a patent application for his free energy invention. Basically just coils of wire
on iron rods. He never ever got his metal storage container flying, but it's rusty remains are still in existence.
I have a picture of it somewhere that I found on the internet previously. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1356 on: December 14, 2018, 09:03:31 PM »
I believe Ramset was asking if you have some equipment which can test a sample of iron wire for iron purity.

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Yes that is EDXRF
It is scientific grade research device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3gPFfgDp8&t=770s
But it does not show bonds.
So it will be precise in form of investigative tool showing periodic components from lithium to uranium.
some limitations I have mentioned in previous post

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1357 on: December 14, 2018, 09:11:39 PM »
Please do not halt movie production ,am trying several sources for purist possible ironwire [no carbon]

Chet

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1358 on: December 14, 2018, 09:27:39 PM »
Sorry to interject But AG posted some link and I wish to understand why ?? post Number 1529
 maybe he can reboot other thread with Question [I think gas tubes ?? ]
??
But I did want to ask Wesley if he has Gas spectrometer to test 1 MM iron wire for a McFarland Cook replication ?few samples to check for iron purity ?
sorry for intrusion

Chet
Err because Hoppy posted TK had wire he thought was feeding all his bulbs, and google pointed me to your thread!  and i understand if you are quick grabbing ions before magnetic whirlpool starts an excess of energy is created
But Chet wouldn't it be better to use nanocrystalline tape instead of copper tape?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1359 on: December 14, 2018, 09:51:06 PM »
Hi Void,
If there are measurements of the ground wire current and scope traces, I'm interested in. Could you or someone else point us them?

With regard to speculation, there is also a question of method to be applied.
The proposals "here is a functional device" and "there is evidence of cheating" are not at all equivalent.
This is linked to the burden of proof, which lies only with those who make the first assertion, the positive assertion (the second being relative to the first one). It is a question of logic, and in the absence of sufficient technical details on the device, that is all that remains. To get out of a belief system, proof must be provided by those who claim that the machine works.
Are you asking how to create an experiment on how to prove how to suck the energy out of the ground?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1360 on: December 14, 2018, 11:57:45 PM »
Hi Void,
If there are measurements of the ground wire current and scope traces, I'm interested in. Could you or someone else point us them?

With regard to speculation, there is also a question of method to be applied.
The proposals "here is a functional device" and "there is evidence of cheating" are not at all equivalent.
This is linked to the burden of proof, which lies only with those who make the first assertion, the positive assertion (the second being relative to the first one). It is a question of logic, and in the absence of sufficient technical details on the device, that is all that remains. To get out of a belief system, proof must be provided by those who claim that the machine works.

Hi F6FLT. The measurements on the ground wire were done with a clamp ammeter placed over the ground wire.
This can be seen in a couple of the earlier video demos if I recall correctly, but I don't have web links handy.
I am aware that there are factors that could potentially render such measurements unreliable.
I make no claim about whether those readings taken could be considered reliable or not.

Kapanadze is not trying to prove anything to the world as far as I know. Last I heard a few years ago
he was looking for someone to buy his technology from him. If someone were interested in buying the technology
from him, it would be up to them to make sure proper steps are taken to determine the device works as
claimed before paying him. I do not claim to know whether Kapanadze's device is genuine or not,
so no belief system involved at all. I keep an open mind because what I have seen seems to hold up reasonably well to scrutiny.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1361 on: December 15, 2018, 12:04:27 AM »
Hi Void,
If there are measurements of the ground wire current and scope traces, I'm interested in. Could you or someone else point us them?

Run Kapanadze's green box garden videos from start to finish. There are no scope traces from Kapanadze, just clamp meter readings.

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1362 on: December 15, 2018, 12:52:21 AM »
Hoppy this is about all i have found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7C1b7-w3Hs

but if your thinking of sucking energy from the ground here, think about how thunder and lightning works!
the ground must be more negative than the sky so to do that won't you need produce a high positive pulse?
But remember although it's more positive than the ground it's still more negative than the sky  ;D ;D
« Last Edit: December 15, 2018, 06:59:43 AM by AlienGrey »

Offline NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1363 on: December 15, 2018, 03:46:58 AM »
   Well guys, this is getting to be more and more like the original Kapanadze mother thread.
We only need about 1400 more pages like these, to equal it.
   Isn't this fun...

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1364 on: December 15, 2018, 07:01:11 AM »
Yes but wiser ?