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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 587745 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1335 on: December 14, 2018, 04:27:38 PM »
Hi Void,
I disagree with your disagreement  ;)
For me, he did it: these are his patents.
Then you said:
"Yes, Kapanadze's patent applications are completely useless due to their extreme vagueness"

Yes, that's the problem. But, see wikipedia quote about "patent":
"The application contains a description of how to make and use the invention that must provide sufficient detail for a person skilled in the art (i.e., the relevant area of technology) to make and use the invention."

Quote from Kapanadze's patent :
"The present invention is a device both self sufficient (self feeding) and producing ready to use electric energy"

It is therefore clear that Kapanadze's device is claimed to be overunity and that the patent must be considered sufficient to duplicate it. If it is not enough, it is because Kapanadze, by filling out its patent, lied to us. What credibility can be given to his "invention" since he uses cheating methods?
We do not have the burden of proof. Kapanadze is supposed to have it, but obviously either he doesn't have it because it's a scam, or he has it and he doesn't want to give it for obscure reasons, irrational in my opinion because his intellectual property is well protected.

The first hypothesis is that this guy has nothing at all. No need to look for the solution in the videos, we see that everything is done to guarantee cheating, for example the current flowing in the ground wire is never measured!
The second hypothesis would indicate that he is suffering from a mental illness. But even this possibility does not imply that he has a working device.
This hypothesis is a way of artificially maintaining credibility on this invention, by assuming an inventor more credible than Kapanadze who is clearly not. I see no fact to support it.

Hi F6FLT. It does not logically follow that because people are supposed to include all
details necessary for someone skilled in the art to replicate their invention in patent applications,
that people always do that. Kapanadze's patent applications were rejected most probably because they
are way too vague, or because the applicants otherwise abandoned them. I would think that patent offices
frequently get patent applications that are not up to standard and often have to reject patent applications on that basis.
Why Kapanadze's patent applications were submitted in the very vague way they were, I do not know.

As I have said here before, Kapanadze is, to me anyway, one of the more credible free energy device claimants out there
because he has let people come and inspect his devices running up close on several occasions, Wesley here being one of them.
It doesn't mean Kapanadze necessarily hasn't used tricks, but until I see credible evidence that he has used tricks
I leave the door open that his devices may possibly be legit 'free energy' devices. You are free to believe as you like of course,
but I personally would want to see sufficient evidence before attempting to draw conclusions either way. I don't know if Kapanadze's
devices are really legit, but I am leaving the door open on him until credible evidence either way indicates otherwise.
Speculation doesn't it cut for me. :)

BTW, from what I recall, ground wire currents being measured on Kapanadze's devices were shown in at least
two of his demo videos. Whether those measurements were reliable or not, I couldn't say, as it would
depend on a few different factors, but I think it was shown in one or two of his demo videos anyway.
At any rate, I am not really interested in getting into a speculation war about whether Kapanadze's devices are
fake or not, as I find that is not productive. If someone can produce some credible evidence of cheating,
then I will be happy to look at it, but, until then I will reserve passing judgement. 

(Hoppy, I will check out that video on the weekend when I have some time, but we have been through that before,
and your suspicious wires usually turn out to be something else or something that we can't draw any definite
conclusions about. :) )




Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1336 on: December 14, 2018, 04:39:02 PM »
   AG:  Does this device that you are talking about able to self run? 
          You can send me a link, if you like, but like Hoppy, I would rather that you post the link on this forum. You can ask the guy, first, if needed.           
    The only person that I know that posts of this forum, and that is showing a self-runner is Nelson.
Don't think any feedback will come from the guy it's quite simple to make so it's a case of trying D Smith had itself run.
he said it uses 12v at just less than an amp. So is all you need is another small coil a fast diode and a large cap or a recharge battery.

Re Nelson told us all he recovers the energy used back in a recovery coil and the circuit he gave us to play with is in the Cold War book
Master IVO talked about and did experiments on look on his website he shows it all a clever chap.

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1337 on: December 14, 2018, 04:54:12 PM »
Dear F6FLT.

My dear Friend  F6FLT. I have seen Tariel Kapanadze device.



Wesley
  Wesly Hi there if you say you have seen his device and I do not dispute that at all, but what I have noticed about
the fish tank device is he uses LOPT and old tripler driving spark plug that is feeding his Tesla 'katcher' coil! but at the back
of that is a card painted black with what looks like loads of power transistor HS tabs standing up and caps any idea what that
card is doing ?

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1338 on: December 14, 2018, 05:03:24 PM »

(Hoppy, I will check out that video on the weekend when I have some time, but we have been through that before,
and your suspicious wires usually turn out to be something else or something that we can't draw any definite
conclusions about. :) )
Thanks Void. If you have the time and inclination, also look very closely at the ground around the bearded man's feet in Part 1, frames between 12:30 and 12:40. I appreciate that video visual analysis is very much a matter of personal interpretation but at least it serves to pass the time until something more concrete surfaces to hopefully draw definite conclusions from.

Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1339 on: December 14, 2018, 05:04:54 PM »
What if i just send you the other vid   ;D ;D ;D


Hi AG, Is there a reason you can't post the video link here?


Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1340 on: December 14, 2018, 05:06:53 PM »

BTW, from what I recall, ground wire currents being measured on Kapanadze's devices were shown in at least
two of his demo videos. Whether those measurements were reliable or not, I couldn't say, as it would
depend on a few different factors, but I think it was shown in one or two of his demo videos anyway.
At any rate, I am not really interested in getting into a speculation war about whether Kapanadze's devices are
fake or not, as I find that is not productive. If someone can produce some credible evidence of cheating,
then I will be happy to look at it, but, until then I will reserve passing judgement. 

Yes, that's correct and clearly shown in the videos.

Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1341 on: December 14, 2018, 05:07:13 PM »
Thanks Void. If you have the time and inclination, also look very closely at the ground around the bearded man's feet in Part 1, frames between 12:30 and 12:40. I appreciate that video visual analysis is very much a matter of personal interpretation but at least it serves to pass the time until something more concrete surfaces to hopefully draw definite conclusions from.

I will definitely check it out as soon as I get the chance. I like mysteries. :)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1342 on: December 14, 2018, 05:40:03 PM »
Yes, that's correct and clearly shown in the videos.
What video are you talking about Hoppy ? we can put Vera on the case  ;D ;D

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1343 on: December 14, 2018, 05:44:17 PM »
What video are you talking about Hoppy ? we can put Vera on the case  ;D ;D
2-part green box garden.

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1344 on: December 14, 2018, 06:04:53 PM »
Look here! ramset and wattsup show spiral pipe wind input for current input (i'm not sure how that works).


https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=237.100

https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/5985/

Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1345 on: December 14, 2018, 07:47:13 PM »
I like mysteries. :)
The one  of the biggest  mysteries   is only waiting to be solved

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1346 on: December 14, 2018, 07:53:21 PM »
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That only indicates that you  are just a regular  and simple software engineer. 
You lost! I am a self-taught programmer, I learned it alone in books, it has never been my job but a hobby, just like radio, electronics, windsurfing or the search for mushrooms, if you want to know everything.
Now, unlike Kapanadze whose credibility must be assessed since no one succeeds in getting his machine to work, I have neither patented nor claimed to have a perpetual motion machine that no one can reproduce, so I do not see the purpose here of your remarks about me, my other activities or my English. This is completely incongruous.
 
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My dear Friend  F6FLT. I have seen Tariel Kapanadze device.
My dear Wesley, I know that. You saw the device. And I and hundreds of people saw the amazing Dynamo walking on the water:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt2yu2
Does that prove he can walk on water?!

Have you made accurate measurements with your own devices and could you show them? Did you have access to all the parts of the machine?  Have you eliminated possible cheating? Have you been able to analyze the ground connection?...
It is not enough to see, it is necessary to understand, and duplicate, otherwise you remain in a belief system.
It is all the more surprising that you have first-hand information, and that you are not seen duplicating the device. Why not get involved, if you know as much as you say about Kapanadze's device? Why not build the Kapanadze's device yourself instead of talking about it for years?

If you can't, you've seen the device but in practice you're no more advanced than any body else.
Nevertheless I hope you have enjoyed your touristic trip in Russia.  :)



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1347 on: December 14, 2018, 07:59:23 PM »
My dear Friend  F6FLT.
Just wait.
I'll give you guys as much as I can.
I hope it helps a lot.
The rest of that what I do not tell you ,  is statue of limitation, but not limitation of willingness.
Perpetual motion   is not achievable, OU does not exist and never existed but FE exists and is real. And you should know it.

You lost! :
Video  you mentioned is  sort of, "well made" non realistic reality present only in form of video file.  (like offers racing tips for a share of any resulting winnings.)
Kapanadze is real experience  in real time  witnessed by real people.
Have you ever  taught yourself  in cameras and filming.
I have EVA1 and BMPCC4K however Hoppy mentioned about  lab full of old  devices - I never use.
I'm also self taught filmmaker using  among many - BM Mini panel  and Davinci Resolve with separate Fusion and Fairlight.
 
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1348 on: December 14, 2018, 08:30:21 PM »
Perpetual motion is not achievable, OU does not exist and never existed but FE exists and is real.
Wesley

I have not closed the door on OU. More power out than being input,
but with no discernible source of where the excess energy is coming from.
To that I say maybe.

Energy from seemingly nowhere may seem quite illogical, but I will let my tests
tell me what is really possible. Sometimes our thinking leads us astray, and
that can work in all directions.  8)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1349 on: December 14, 2018, 08:33:59 PM »
Sorry to interject But AG posted some link and I wish to understand why ?? post Number 1529
 maybe he can reboot other thread with Question [I think gas tubes ?? ]
??
But I did want to ask Wesley if he has Gas spectrometer to test 1 MM iron wire for a McFarland Cook replication ?few samples to check for iron purity ?
sorry for intrusion

Chet