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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1290 on: December 12, 2018, 05:26:04 PM »
     I feel that time is running out. Does anyone feel as I do???  And that we are all on the verge of being exterminated, big time.   Those are my thoughts, which I need to communicate.
Who by Nick? AlienGrey hasn't declared war on the world yet.  ;)

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Offline forest

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1291 on: December 12, 2018, 05:38:14 PM »
Here is what you need :
- modus-operandi
- energy source
- method of extraction
- limits
- power density
- applicability


and I can assure you it is all solved, and it is solved probably many times in history. In fact all you need is the agreement to make it happen in reality - free ecological safe energy for every human on Earth. That's the real problem ! they rather wan energy which is controllable and taxable - photovoltaic and power banks, hydrogen and small atomic reactors. Why the hell is Bill Gates investing billions if all is already solved.

Offline r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1292 on: December 12, 2018, 06:11:51 PM »
Is it known what is this overunity in Kapanadze devices?

From what is known we are talking about:

Adding an HV impulse to the current, e.g. 10V@30A + HV = ? 230V@30A ?
Reduction of Lenz's law also by HV ?

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« Reply #1292 on: December 12, 2018, 06:11:51 PM »
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Offline NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1293 on: December 12, 2018, 07:30:19 PM »
Who by Nick? AlienGrey hasn't declared war on the world yet.  ;)
   

   By who, Hoppy?
   This is not the first of these types of exterminations. Nor possibly the last. Imagine, what's next...
   https://youtu.be/UkVdrTMZMEY
   As you can see in that video, homes and cars are melted to nothing, but the trees are not. Wild camp fire???   A dog sits patiently waiting for his owners to come home,  10 days after the fires... on another video.   There are several other videos showing what did cause these fires.  I won't go into that, at this time.

    AG may be pointing in the right direction. This planet is being turned upside down, while we just watch, and say "by who".
   I know that you are an informed guy, Hoppy. So...
   watch:   https://youtu.be/eMrXS9uiQCo

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1294 on: December 12, 2018, 09:14:50 PM »
My dear friend.
I have to be very cautious, when dealing with patents and patent application.
There is requirement to understand  regulations in this area.
Presentations are considered  as possible patent infringement.
However not in all situation and not always.
So there is room for movement but must be consulted with patent professional.
There is quite easy  way to do the same for non US citizens with regards to "US patents and patent applications.
They are usually  not limited in their rights to provide  the demonstration.
By  case of  Apple you do not have requirement to search if given technology was patented or filed  if the patent  was not  issued in your country.
or even if it was issued in your country  the patents rights holder must first  notify you  of such violation  ,so by that you have chance to prove that you did not gain from his invention.
In many countries presentation is considered   a public  form of evaluation since   data is already in public domain. 

Wesley

Hello Wesley. I was just speaking generally when saying that if someone has a working
device that shows something out of the ordinary, they should not have a problem to demonstrate it.
They don't have to give up their 'secrets' if they don't want to in doing a demonstration. Parts
they want to keep secret can be enclosed in a box.

I doubt that demonstrating an OU device, even if someone else may have a patent on a similar type of
device would be a legal issue. All a person would be doing would be demonstrating that the device
does something unusual. Even if they explain how they think it works, I still can't see how that would be
a patent infringement. Now if you try to sell something that someone holds a valid patent on, that would
definitely be a patent infringement.


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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1295 on: December 12, 2018, 09:20:34 PM »
   

   By who, Hoppy?
   This is not the first of these types of exterminations. Nor possibly the last. Imagine, what's next...
   https://youtu.be/UkVdrTMZMEY
   As you can see in that video, homes and cars are melted to nothing, but the trees are not. Wild camp fire???   A dog sits patiently waiting for his owners to come home,  10 days after the fires... on another video.   There are several other videos showing what did cause these fires.  I won't go into that, at this time.

Nick,
See this video as a likely explanation. You must realise that controversial / conspiracy type videos like you posted abound on the internet and make money for the publishers. I do consider myself fairly open minded but in my opinion many of these videos are just crap sensationalism.




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1296 on: December 12, 2018, 10:46:17 PM »
    Hoppy:    Ok then, I guess it's all perfectly normal. Good thing forest fires normally don't burn trees down, as they are all wet inside.
    Thanks. What a relief.    https://youtu.be/ZWvuPcurB6Q
   

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Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1297 on: December 12, 2018, 10:53:17 PM »
Intellectual property can be share based on:
Willingness and Limitations.
Both have its own criteria, often emotionally triggered or seized .
I did indicate willingness, but I did not promise  the "bombshell" to be immediately explosive, nor evident to part of the crowd not skilled in particular art, nor to be delivered on time.
In one point  I even indicated withdrawal.

I'm nobody till I become somebody to someone.
And that pleases me a lot, (like  everyone else I assume.) But there is  plenty of guys who really wants to shine.
Medication or cure is dosed, and it does not help when swallowed one bottle at the time.
And of course it could be stopped any time. Anything that is troublesome may become detrimental.

One of my old professors told me.
"I can, but I do not have to, and that applies to you too Wesley.
But if you are rejected, than the best thing is to switch the platform".

Plenty of us, don't like Trump because he is independent, and possibly by that, he is able to  show arrogant, selfish, narcissistic, - self.
I wish  everyone of you, this kind of independence , and it is up to you how you  use it.
I hope it helps to understand me and my approach to you.

Trolls from Far east of Europe , are out of the picture, they do not count.
But you guys are fine group of curious, seekers. Some of you  are frustrated, impatient, but valuable.
I do not manifest any disrespect to anyone of you. We can have fight, but everything stays  in the family.
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My life is almost perfectly stress free. So I wake-up with smile every day.
That is not so good, as temporary winds may affect me in grater degree , than average. 
I do not  have to enhance my immunity system in this area. But I will if needed.
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Coming to  your concerns:
I strongly disagree with some of you expecting only safe non polluting, technology or form of FE device.
That makes me protest and point  at level of understanding of subject in question, ( person percipience and perceptiveness).
You drive every day  on the top of gasoline tank. And you do not think about it because you think , you know how to deal with it.
The same is with simple rule of inverse  square law.
Radiation, ionized radiation, electromagnetic wave in bandwidth over visible light  is as  harmless as your gasoline tank if you know how to deal with it..
I deal with it for the past 30 years.
Yes you can make mistakes like me in Lithuania experiment.
Today I'm very happy that I did make that mistake. I'll try to explain why in my video.

People stupidity in this area, does not determine their general value  but it says about their lack of education.
So some of them think that Cellphone is dangerous. ( the only dangerous part of it is energy transferred to  heat)
But how do you know it.. right?   It takes 2 minutes...
So it is unfortunate, that I must respond to such comments.
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Yes this particular and simple form of transformer has a potential of explaining how most of the guys we spoke about  have been able to achieve
the effect that  caught  your attention.

But let me have fun of making video first.
If you  want you can  make copy of it as  I may remove it from my channel.
If you still will not be satisfied, than think about that what I  wrote above as I did it on purpose and prior to my video.

Wesley






 

 
« Last Edit: December 13, 2018, 01:39:54 AM by stivep »

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1298 on: December 12, 2018, 11:35:42 PM »
Hello Wesley. I was just speaking generally when saying that if someone has a working
device that shows something out of the ordinary, they should not have a problem to demonstrate it.
They don't have to give up their 'secrets' if they don't want to in doing a demonstration. Parts
they want to keep secret can be enclosed in a box.

I doubt that demonstrating an OU device, even if someone else may have a patent on a similar type of
device would be a legal issue. All a person would be doing would be demonstrating that the device
does something unusual. Even if they explain how they think it works, I still can't see how that would be
a patent infringement. Now if you try to sell something that someone holds a valid patent on, that would
definitely be a patent infringement.
NO I don't have anything to show. But give this some thought when you next take a bath
and pull the plug out and let the water go, what happens ?  Yeah the water runs out but then something
else almost immediately happens the whirlpool starts, isn't Lenz law like that, the thing is once you start a
switch on how long have you got ? work that out and you might have something or not is the question.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1299 on: December 13, 2018, 12:09:13 AM »
I am working on my own ideas for the last while, not related to Kapanadze or other devices discussed here.
If anything shows something really notable, I will post a demo video. Still have some hurdles to overcome
before I can put my latest ideas to the test.

I can understand why an inventor of a claimed free energy device would want to keep certain things secret
and try to make money off their invention. It will typically take a lot of time, effort and expense to come up
with a (hopefully) working design. It is understandable that most people would want to make something back
in return for all that effort and expense, unless they already have lots of money. :) I don't expect most anyone
who really has a working free energy device to give their 'secrets' away for free, unless they are already financially
pretty well off. That is the reality of this world. We all have to eat and keep a roof over our head. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1300 on: December 13, 2018, 12:28:12 AM »
Void
quote: I don't expect most anyone
who really has a working free energy device to give their 'secrets' away for free,
end quote
sorry to comment but you have written this before and I bit my lip then ,its in conflict with Stefan's open source mission statement on front page.


Not sure you meant a patent ,but applying / getting a patent on a true FE device is like handing
a man a stick to beat you with.
here at Stefan's forum [and elsewhere] its open source , a true open source device will change everything.
IMO the only path .....,and working in a group of like minded Men [or women ....if you see any ?] is the best checks and balance for maintaining the open source path.
Not just one mans opinion.




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1301 on: December 13, 2018, 01:01:49 AM »
sorry to comment but you have written this before and I bit my lip then ,its in conflict with Stefan's open source mission statement on front page.

Hi Ramset. No need to apologize. You are free to say and think whatever you like. :)
I am talking about reality. Name one person here who has released open source details
for building an OU device that other people here have actually been able to get working. :)

As soon as anyone thinks they have come up with a genuine OU device, they will in all probability
clam up or disappear to try to make their fortune. That is the reality of human nature, I'm afraid. 
That aside, just trying to find an actual working OU device of any kind that can stand
up to real scrutiny is like trying to find a needle in a haystack, if not much more difficult.

Kapanadze seems to very possibly have something, but he isn't sharing for free either. :D
Same for possibly a few others out there. I didn't say whether I agree with people doing this or not.
Just saying that IMO, that is the reality of the situation, so I don't expect anyone will be sharing full
and clear details of an actual working OU device any time soon. Because of this, I work mainly on my
own ideas these days. :) Human nature is human nature. The world may change over time, but
human nature remains human nature. :)


« Last Edit: December 13, 2018, 03:18:12 AM by Void »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1302 on: December 13, 2018, 01:43:05 AM »
  Void and Ramset:
   You both have valid points.   There seams to be no way around finding or even buying something that works, and does not cost thousands.And is why I don't like to waist more time looking into something illusive, as is mostly what has been shared here up to now. So, where do we go from here?  I was hoping that we can continue to build and test the real deal. And focus on perfecting and improving on existing free energy technology. That is why I'm here.
And I'm not giving up on this,  come hell and high waters. Or something like that. Which seams like is happening now. So, as I had mentioned previously, there's no time to waist, if you don't want to be left in the dark.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1303 on: December 13, 2018, 10:45:55 AM »
I have no doubt that there exists a handful of OU devices somewhere but I doubt if you guys would accept them.
I remember there has been some discussion on Zenneck wave (I meant the earliest version of surface waves). What has happened over the past few weeks? you guys insisted on talking about magnets.... and obviously somebody has needlessly mystified the concept of Zenneck's.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1304 on: December 13, 2018, 11:23:56 AM »
Don't reject Kapanadze just because you don't know how it works. I am a supporter of all devices unknown to me and I draw conclusions from each of them. This has led me today to the fact that we perceive what we see wrongly. It is true that everyone will see something different and only the author of the device knows the correctness of the answers, what to name well and what he is doing and what we think he is doing. A simple analogy: a magician. Everyone can see the effect. Everyone can see where it comes from, but they can't see how it's made and where the mirrors are.

Still only blablablablablable. It shows that there is nothing to do with blablable...

Those who know how the device works will not say because it is like having a lotto ticket with numbers. You don't understand it! Nobody will give it on a tray and will not prove that it works as they know it works. It's a pity of time.

For 10 years Kapanadze is a secret, but only for those who are still crying that they were not told. However, on films there is 100% answer how it works.

A blind person would understand more quickly ... :)


 

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