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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 506155 times)

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1230 on: November 30, 2018, 11:39:50 PM »
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« Reply #1231 on: November 30, 2018, 11:51:23 PM »
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1232 on: December 01, 2018, 12:43:36 AM »
This isn't directly true
A particularly intriguing application of the structure is the construction and operation of a waveguide probe at the primary or higher mode resonance frequencies of the waveguide formed by the surface of the earth and ionosphere.
Because these resonance frequencies, the so-called Schumann resonances, are so low, e.g., about 8, 14 and 30 Hz,
it has not heretofore been practical even to attempt to build a self-resonant structure to operate at any of the frequencies.

you can double up to the true music frequency of 432hz, I seem to keep reading about! try it just about every FE device uses this frequency!  8) 8)
In fact the very workings of the cosmos relates to 432 witch is a base 8 and 9 ! no thanks to the Nazis for trying to change it to 440hz

My dear friend . I respect your opinion.
In this case the probe was build and tested .
Link to material in question was  published by me but you did not bother(take the trouble) to read it.



Quotes marked as quotes from my last post ,are taken from official material protecting rights of an inventor.
I need to say as well, that Viziv operative is involved in such intellectual  statements.
I found logical link directly related the very foundation of Tariel Kapanadze device and Viziv intellectual property.
However Viziv took different approach and apply the probe to Zencek surface Wave money making machine.- even though that
their  key scientist  was working exactly on energy extraction from  Earth/ionosphere waveguide. Using Schumann resonance frequency
that what you did not understand is that probe is so small because it uses standing wave and secondary frequency to excite circuit  at frequency that is much much lower
similarly to  known to us nanosecond  generators used by FE researchers and  their problem was that they output it in wrong place ,without obeying or knowing about mirror image
in the earth
I found the correlation of 3 different patent applications of FE device by inventors not related to Viziv and possibly not even knowing   about Viziv or Corum Brothers.
Mirror image was explained briefly in  two  of my posts.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527478/#msg527478
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527521/#msg527521

I would be happy  if your  comments guys, are in within the brackets of current discussion.
However if there is something substantial in other areas that  brings  mutual benefit to this forum you are welcome.
If I find  intentional action to bury it under targeted set of nor related  comments   I will vote for removal as I did  in the past but  very seldom.
If I find  that that does not help  I will change it to  moderated.
My present  position is  that everyone is welcome with anything you want as long as you are not a troll and content is beneficial to society.
So yes if you feel like to post  whatever  you think can be interesting than please do so in any subject.

Wesley
« Last Edit: December 01, 2018, 08:46:25 AM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1233 on: December 01, 2018, 12:57:08 AM »
Wesley, I'm not in Russia and I'm not even related to any and nor am I within a 1000 miles of it  :P and I'm not your enemy if you wish me to remove the posts I can but others appear
to say far more disruptive comments than my self but there again I'm not one to argue I will leave you and the thread and no longer contribute to it
as it's far too risky goodbye and enjoy.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1234 on: December 01, 2018, 01:34:10 AM »
Wesley, I'm not in Russia and I'm not even related to any and nor am I within a 1000 miles of it  :P and I'm not your enemy if you wish me to remove the posts I can but others appear
to say far more disruptive comments than my self but there again I'm not one to argue I will leave you and the thread and no longer contribute to it
as it's far too risky goodbye and enjoy.
This post was not addressed to you my friend.
You made wrong assumption  my dear friend
I said in my last post that  that I appreciate your  comments
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My dear friend . I respect your opinion.
You got confused with word "You"
Word "You" in English is plural and singular
You understood it in singular form ,but I used it in plural form
 I'm very friendly to you

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1235 on: December 01, 2018, 02:11:14 AM »
Thanks for the friendly clarification I'm glad that's cleared up  :D :D have a good day there.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1236 on: December 01, 2018, 02:53:00 AM »
 I feel like I need to repeat for you AlienGreey  how to achieve small form factor
of the receiving antenna ( Tariel Kapanadze coil):

That wavelength  of (wire) conducting structure wounded on the torus is shorter than a free-space wavelength at the frequency of resonance.
Therefore, at the primary resonance frequency, the toroidal structure behaves electrically as if its circumference were one free-space wavelength
long when that circumference is actually physically smaller than one free-space wavelength.

Thus an electrically small, resonant structure is achieved
That is why Tariel Kapanadze coil is so small.
By combining a number of the toroidal conducting paths just described and by controlling the relative phases of the electromagnetic energy supplied to each path,
various embodiments of the structure and various antenna radiation patterns may be created.
the conducting paths have opposing senses, i.e., are contrawound.
(wounded  counterclockwise)

-conducting paths
is more than  1 path. but I'm talking about just two
- phases 
of each path  in relation to each other are the most important ( crucial).
- and to make it working
you need countrawound,  but there are shapes of an antenna that do not need that. however they need to be  bifilar.


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use of ferrite helps but is not always mandatory  that is why  most of FE devices uses ferrites.
- when traditional material if regular  transformer made from plates,  is used, or the core  is wounded as donut of continuous circularstrip   
one of techniques
   dividing/ splitting magnetic flux into two controlled path can be applied by 
making  slot in the middle of the ferrite core  and pushing in it additional  winding at 90 degrees.
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1237 on: December 01, 2018, 10:30:14 AM »
 look up.
this set of  ferrite connection is taken from patent application   not related to Corum brothers
I will make separate video about it and it claims FE 10W input  to 15kW output
The reason of me placing it here is because it uses the same means( mechanism) of  flux control as it is used by probe antenna

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1238 on: December 01, 2018, 01:31:00 PM »
Wesley Thanks for device layout the two toroids are easy to get hold of but the U shape would have to be a custom device, however,
would it be possible to mount the permanent magnets on the top of the toroids and a flat ferrite rod over the top depending on the thickness
of the wire wrap.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1239 on: December 01, 2018, 04:51:52 PM »
look up
Two coils are activated at  positive part of impulse and than  the other  two
So switching is done between each set of two coils.
that means first impulse  activates the same first  set of coils
Magnetic flux is switched in direction flowing on doted line now.
Than  second impulse ACTIVATES  the same  second set of coils.
Switching continues the same   way for impulse 3 and 4 // 4 and 6// and so on.

 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1240 on: December 03, 2018, 06:29:47 PM »
A magnetic flux is never "switched". A magnetic flux can be viewed as a loop of unbreakable field lines that extend or compress around a current according to its strength.

Even in the event of a coil explosion, the field lines are not broken. The flux is conservative. It's easy to check.
If the current is cut in a coil, the magnetic flux persists (while reducing) because the current can never be suddenly cut, it decreases, for example we will have electric arcs that maintain a certain current if we abruptly open the circuit of a coil.

Once we know this, once we understand that the field lines expand or shrink around the current, we understand also that nothing moves along the field lines, so there is nothing to stop.  The idea that one flux could be cut off by another is an absurd idea confirmed by the MEG, which has never worked. The flux superpose, each in circle around the currents that give rise to them, expanding or shrinking according to the current, including the currents related to the spins of electrons in permanent magnets or their orbital movements.

The idea of newbies in physics, that one could modulate or switch off a flux by playing on permeability, is just as absurd. No flux acts as a command to another. The flux always superpose, even in a medium of variable or non-linear permeability, it is an addition not a multiplication, it is just necessary to consider the instantaneous values of flux and permeability, and also to think that the change in permeability of a material is not free in terms of energy.

I continually see variations of these devices, as if the more differently they were arranged, the bigger they were, the more twisted they were, the less absurd they would be even though they are based on the same flawed principle ::) . None of these things work for the same unique reason. It is time to draw the right conclusions.
You have problem my  dear friend with proper interpretation of my  post.
And possibly  you need to  read some of literature in this area.
I have  never  said switching  OFF. I said switching direction of ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux
However switching OFF directed magnetic flux in ferrite material, is just switching
OFF the  power supply. Domains that  are  already magnetized will stay in its own direction. the rest of the domains will be randomly oriented .
However there is one very special exemption to it in close to  square hysteresis material of the very special nature .
More in my video that I'm working on  just now.
Till than  watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs
By the way  I'm thinking about moving out from this forum
I'm not sure if it is going to be partial or  permanent.
...or stay  in both  the new one and the old one.
We'll see.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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« Reply #1241 on: December 03, 2018, 11:21:33 PM »
Hi Wesley,

The patent application was familiar to me and was mentioned here:
https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747 

full text and drawings for those interested:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/
   
Perhaps a related or useful paper is here: 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor

 Gyula

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« Reply #1242 on: December 04, 2018, 04:01:26 AM »
A problem is relative only to the one who ask himself the question. I have no problem, your post was as clear as my previous answer.

Your objection, dear friend, is irrelevant. To "switch" reluctance is not an on/off process that breaks the field lines. When you switch off a magnetic circuit, the flux collapses by shrinking the magnetic field lines without breaking them (they are always looped). They tighten like rubber bands that loosen up. That's why there are induced currents in conductors due to the field lines that cross them. Otherwise there would be no reason for a current when a flux is "switch off" at a distance.

A more fundamental and better way to understand the magnetic field is through relativity. All electromagnetic phenomena are relativistic effects. The magnetic field is only the electric field seen by moving charges, because it is no longer isotropic. The magnetic field cannot disappear instantly because the charges cannot stop instantly, which would mean infinite deceleration. There is always a gradual reconfiguration of the charge distribution even if it can be very fast.

Your answers are triggered by the word "switch off" which you understand in the common sense of the word, missing the underlying physics of the magnetic field.

You happened to touch the very core of the phenomena related to the device in question.
Give me few hours and I  give you something to focus your attention at.
I tried to keep it in very much easy  form.
The public represents all flavors of human perception,so  I couldn't   go deep into the processes and its theory.
  I will suggest  you to study attached papers that will be posted  at the same time
 Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1243 on: December 04, 2018, 04:02:30 AM »
Hi Wesley,

The patent application was familiar to me and was mentioned here:
https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747 

full text and drawings for those interested:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/
   
Perhaps a related or useful paper is here: 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor

 Gyula
I do very much appreciate your comment here :)
give me few hours you will know why.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1244 on: December 04, 2018, 11:05:38 AM »
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 02:37:41 PM by stivep »

 

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