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Offline Belfior

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« Reply #1215 on: November 30, 2018, 10:22:29 AM »
Which begs the question... is it wise to give every monkey knowledge and understanding which could give them the power to burn this planet to the ground?. This is the problem with giving knowledge to primitive minds with a self-serving and often violent nature. In my opinion there is no preventing them from destroying themselves because the problem was never knowledge it was there destructive nature.

We got monkeys running around with holy scripture and nuclear weapons. With free energy ee could at least migrate to other planets&moons and leave this rock to banks&zionists. There are going to be problems like with every new invention like airplanes

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« Reply #1216 on: November 30, 2018, 11:27:11 AM »
   A "possible explanation" needs some real facts, which have not been provided for as in any type of proof, at all, in your explanations. To believe, or not believe is not enough. Right.  Once you KNOW something to be true, believing is unnecessary.
   The fact that a multi million dollar corporation can provide for some form of energy transfer, in the form or Zenneck waves, does not mean or necessarly have any relation to what we have all seen on the self runner videos. 
   So, until some proof is supported by facts....  not imaginary "tricks", which Kapanadze didn't tell you about, either.
Nick,
Once one knows something, belief is intrinsic. I sense you are beginning to get frustrated at all this Zenneck wave discussion. We need to remember that this is Wesley's thread and need to respect that he feels that the Zenneck wave may be relevant to the Kapanadze enigma.

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« Reply #1217 on: November 30, 2018, 11:44:49 AM »
We got monkeys running around with holy scripture and nuclear weapons. With free energy ee could at least migrate to other planets&moons and leave this rock to banks&zionists. There are going to be problems like with every new invention like airplanes
The problem there is there is no link between the monkey and the human as far as evolution is concerned! and the propeller-driven airplane is only a 2D
drive system. The problem is the Gingus gean of the European didn't they almost wipe out the Native American?
And what's all this got to do with Wesley's tutorial on his ZP device? there are other threads for verbal emissions Ha Ha!

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« Reply #1218 on: November 30, 2018, 11:45:53 AM »
A Zenneck wave spreads from the source like the wave generated by a falling stone on the water surface. Then its energy density decreases in 1/r².
A soliton wave maintains its shape and its energy while progressing.

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« Reply #1219 on: November 30, 2018, 03:08:45 PM »
   Hoppy:   Yes, and more than just a bit bored with this discussion, by now as well. 
   But, I don't like to see false information being spread about what Kapanadze has done or shown. There's enough BS already.
  This discussion will end like all the other discussions have ended, going no where, and providing us with nothing useful.    Wesley can drag it out as long as he likes, this is his thread, and if he want to bore everyone here with this stuff. Go for it. 
   This is just all about Wesley's speculation, about how Kapanadze faked or may have faked his lake video.
   Sorry guys,  I'm out of it. As I'm not interested in sending energy elsewhere. I need it here, not sent somewhere else. But this is not about that, it's about claiming TK was faking his video. While providing no proof of such a wild claim.

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« Reply #1220 on: November 30, 2018, 03:44:29 PM »
   Hoppy:   Yes, and more than just a bit bored with this discussion, by now as well. 
   But, I don't like to see false information being spread about what Kapanadze has done or shown. There's enough BS already.
  This discussion will end like all the other discussions have ended, going no where, and providing us with nothing useful.    Wesley can drag it out as long as he likes, this is his thread, and if he want to bore everyone here with this stuff. Go for it. 
   This is just all about Wesley's speculation, about how Kapanadze faked or may have faked his lake video.
   Sorry guys,  I'm out of it. As I'm not interested in sending energy elsewhere. I need it here, not sent somewhere else. But this is not about that, it's about claiming TK was faking his video. While providing no proof of such a wild claim.
Nick: It may be time to let Wesley continue his in-depth intellectual scientific studies on making waves and for us to move back to the asylum which is now a lot less noisy. I'm rather hoping that Ansis can shed more light on his experiment where he feels that he has discovered Kapanadze's secret. Kapanadze's 'trick' is that he may have found a simple non complicated method of energy conversion that he does not fully understand and maybe Ansis is on the scent.

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« Reply #1221 on: November 30, 2018, 03:58:35 PM »
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Offline NickZ

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« Reply #1222 on: November 30, 2018, 04:01:56 PM »
   Agreed.  And it would be good to know if jb-n107lab is getting any further along, also. 
   I wonder is Geo have up, or what was his final results. He seamed to be close to hitting on it.
   Ansis did mention that he didn't know nor had discovered TK's actual secret to self running. Or he would not have abandoned it.
 
   Sorry to the rest of the guys, I'll just step out of this, as there is not a person doing anything about it to prove things one way or the other. Just empty speculations, no in-depth study, at all.   I see that kind of wave all the time, called an Ocean Wave. It's a carrier wave, carries me all the way to the beach on my board.

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« Reply #1223 on: November 30, 2018, 04:09:27 PM »
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« Reply #1224 on: November 30, 2018, 04:12:57 PM »
  No thanks, I think that I've seen most everything out there, already. Time to go to work. Ready to get my hands dirty, and give my mouth a break.

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« Reply #1225 on: November 30, 2018, 05:04:45 PM »
to say there is great interest in what the Corum Bros and company are up to ?...  would be a huge understatement.
tremendous gratitude for Wesley and all his efforts here.
The Corum Brothers are undoubtedly some of the most accredited Tesla authority's out there [among other things].
respectfully//..
Chet K
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perhaps the Viziv should have its own topic here ?the info keeps getting buried at this generic thread....// also to add there is much gratitude for all Open source experimenters here .//...
not an easy task...........

 

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« Reply #1226 on: November 30, 2018, 05:26:58 PM »
to say there is great interest in what the Corum Bros and company are up to ?...  would be a huge understatement.
tremendous gratitude for Wesley and all his efforts here.
The Corum Brothers are undoubtedly some of the most accredited Tesla authority's out there [among other things].
respectfully//..
Chet K
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perhaps the Viziv should have its own topic here ?the info keeps getting buried at this generic thread....// also to add there is much gratitude for all Open source experimenters here .//...
not an easy task...........
Thank you my dear friend.
For all of you in doubt I say.
The best is only waiting!!!
It should be published  shortly by me of course :)
Is it revolutionary?
-Not only .
It is revolutionary  and explosive.
But only for people skilled in art. Only by these who can  understand all explosiveness of it.
And  its  magnitude .
So I think now:
- should I  do it here on this forum first or
- should I do it in form of video first.
- should I show  the device?....working? Or  may be this is  too much..?
I think that even NickZ will be happy too ,along with rest of the opponents.- as I will take  Tariel in the biggest defense he ever had.
I'm thinking..
what is that  going to give me?.. problems?.. forced elimination from everything,  permanent "termination" ?
?... the art is going to be preserved, and published anyhow... with me or without me.
The only problem I have is  when is the best time  to do it?
After more people start to understand more of that  what I'm writing to you?
Or before I no longer be able to do it.
Or maybe I should make you doing it first  and by that nobody will touch me at all ..and/or any longer?

 

Wesley

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« Reply #1227 on: November 30, 2018, 06:06:33 PM »

The only problem I have is  when is the best time  to do it?
After more people start to understand more of that  what I'm writing to you?
Or before I no longer be able to do it.

 

Wesley
None of us are getting younger and some of us are in their elderly years, so please don't delay your bombshell Wesley. Also, please take into consideration that very few of us have had your scientific education and have your technical experience, so please don't present whatever you decide to in riddles or in scientifically difficult to understand way. After all, as Kapanadze has repeatedly said said about his trick - "its so simple you'll laugh".

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« Reply #1228 on: November 30, 2018, 06:23:09 PM »
None of us are getting younger and some of us are in their elderly years, so please don't delay your bombshell Wesley. Also, please take into consideration that very few of us have had your scientific education and have your technical experience, so please don't present whatever you decide to in riddles or in scientifically difficult to understand way. After all, as Kapanadze has repeatedly said said about his trick - "its so simple you'll laugh".

   Stivep: "The best is only waiting."   If you actually have something to show, please show it working in a video. Perhaps it can be shown to light 4000w worth of bulbs, like Ruslan has shown in the field, or TK shown in the lake video.That would make be happy, and you too.
    I am not your opponent, I am a simple researcher and experimenter, waiting for your awesome bombshell discovery.

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« Reply #1229 on: November 30, 2018, 07:08:52 PM »
None of us are getting younger and some of us are in their elderly years, so please don't delay your bombshell Wesley. Also, please take into consideration that very few of us have had your scientific education and have your technical experience, so please don't present whatever you decide to in riddles or in scientifically difficult to understand way. After all, as Kapanadze has repeatedly said said about his trick - "its so simple you'll laugh".

OK .
Tariel was right.
Energy is from around us.
That does not contradict anything that was published by Viziv and Corum brothers.
Corum Brothers have found  part  of that  what was presented to us by Tariel Kapanadze
Vasmus, Anonim, SR, Chubanidze, Akula, Ruslan. and many others.
However Corum brothers did it late in terms of patent application.( expired 20 years patent life - 1988 ) and not finishing or abandoning  application.
Tariel  Kapanadze Patent application  was  filed  in 2008.
This application lacks, required  condition  and  relates to  violation of laws of thermodynamics.
It is quite difficult to be  resurrected  but not entirely impossible.
I suppose big Russian government money can be pumped into it just to oppose Viziv  and US overwhelming  control over  energy.
Tariel patent application was done  the best possible way, the patent application could be done, for exchange of 50% of future profit from it by Mr Turk from Turkey.
But Mr Turk himself was only as smart as my comment about monkey in the field of an invention .
And Tariel could not help him much as he is self oriented, selfish( I totally  understand him) person limited  with knowledge but not limited with hand skills and some luck.
Please remember that  his knowledge might not originate from his own luck but knowledge of three  elderly Russian scientists who vanished  one day  without any trace after meeting with Tariel.   


First  piece of  information given to you by me in regards to  bombshell  :
is that  every m  vertically from earth to ionosphere has potential 100V /m
10m=1000V
100m=10 000V
1000m=100 000V
at the height of typical airplane  flight  it is
12000m= 1 200 000V

Earth is natural  waveguide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide
The earth is  in form of circular closed  donut/doughnut or  waveguide
Waveguide guides electromagnetic wave at certain given conditions.
giving to that  form of  electromagnetic wave desired shape!!!!! ( squeezing it, forming it)- inhibiting it in given direction.
Electromagnetic wave is  showed here( read text under video frame) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFBHmG6gtIU
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In 1864, James Clerk Maxwell mathematically predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves. An electromagnetic wave consists of two oscillating fields, one electric and one magnetic, which propagate in space carrying energy. These two fields lie in orthogonal planes and therefore an electromagnetic wave is called plane-polarized.
In that waveguide you have nonuniform presence of charges manifesting itself  often in form of lightnings.
One single   lightning triggers  series of lightnings in waveguide around the earth , and the more lightnings are triggered , the more of avalanche of lightnings is created.
At one point conditions in that waveguide does not permit for that avalanche to be continued.
When Lightning strikes  it converts  potential energy into  kinetic energy..
That form factor however  is now not an electrostatic charge but AC .
Whenever we deal with with  AC in open space we deal with photon as a carrier  of energy .
Photons can not  interact with each other  apart  themselves, they can not see each other  but they  are properties of the  electromagnetic wave.
Electromagnetic wave of given frequency can not interact by that with any other  electromagnetic wave  but...
BUT... BUT... (Cerenkov radiation)
please do not go to link  from the quote you do not need it now.
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For a wave that experiences anomalous dispersion and propagates with the external magnetostatic field, distinguishing features of the energy-flux velocity and the ratio of the electric to the magnetic energy density as functions of the wave number  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227230220_Slow_electromagnetic_waves_in_tangentially_magnetized_ferromagnetic_films
( this quote from above will be needed for you to understand that there is  use of ferrites/ ferromagnetic films or ferrite-like materials used by other people who filed  patent applications for their FE  or simply used it in their devices)

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I wet to South of America to eliminate/ or conform one  of variables of the puzzle.
That was two ground structure. My posts are posted here. You need just to find them.
That gave me information about the structure of positioning of vital elements of the device.
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So Slow wave is created  by interaction of two waves.
Well  two waves can not interact with each other  right?
You can’t slow down one EM wave using another wave, but you can slow down the wave’s energy flow.
This sets up a standing wave
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-slow-down-an-EM-wave-with-radio-waves

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The same way  the  lightning strike is created " in the middle of nowhere" but inside of earth ionosphere  earth guide
We can create electromagnetic wave causing  standing wave  be alive.c  We are at the same exactly waveguide
And as a result of that we create.. what.. lightning around the earth?       NO.. no no...

We can build antenna that is small  and  does not look like an antenna .. but more like Tariel Kapanadze coil
 and this antenna is made out of:
- clockwise
-and counterclockwise coils and
- bifilar coil structure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil
Note : most of experimenters  who made  successfully working device  and/or these who filed patent application, do not understand what energy is coming from including Tariel Kapanadze.
Please recall my quote about monkey from my previous  post
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It is well known in the electromagnetic arts that efficient, linear antennas are usually constructed from elements having lengths that are significant portions of a free-space wavelength at the operating frequency.
It is also known that if those lengths are made equal to integer multiples of one quarter wavelength, standing waves may be induced in the antenna.
It is also understood that operation of an antenna at one of its self-resonance frequencies, if possible, is desirable to increase antenna efficiency.
At the self-resonant frequencies, standing waves are produced on antennas and the reactive component of the feedpoint impedance is zero.
This efficient operation contrasts with the familiar "matched" operation where the impedance of an antenna is conjugately matched by an
external network to the impedance of a transmitter or receiver to improve performance. Reactive power losses are experienced both in
the antenna and in the matching network, when a matching network is used, so that overall system efficiency is not maximized.
It is also established that horizontally polarized electromagnetic waves suffer greater ground wave propagation losses than do vertically polarized waves.
Therefore, vertically polarized waves are preferred over horizontally polarized waves for communication over the surface of the earth.


The antenna can be in form of torus or cylinder forming toroidal, helical electrically conducting path.
So lets talk for a moment about torus shape instead of Kapanadze cylindrical shape of the clockwise and counterclockwise coil.
 
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In a simple case, the structure has a single conductive path, such as a copper wire or other electrical conductor, disposed on the surface of a torus in uniformly spaced turns.
The axis of the helical path lies on a circle which is described by the major radius of the torus.
(A toroidal surface is generated by the rotation of a closed planar figure about a rotational axis lying outside the figure.
When that figure is a circle, the surface generated is a torus.
For a torus, the distance between the rotational axis and the center of the rotated circle is the torus' major radius.)
When the conducting path on the toroidal surface is electrically excited in a pre-selected frequency range, a pair of slow electromagnetic waves
 i.e., ones with propagation velocities less then the speed of light, propagates along the path.
At the resonance frequencies of the toroidal path, an inhibited-velocity standing wave is established along the electromagnetically-closed path, which in this elementary example is approximately equal to the circumference of the torus

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That wavelength  of (wire) conducting structure wounded on the torus is shorter than a free-space wavelength at the frequency of resonance.
Therefore, at the primary resonance frequency, the toroidal structure behaves electrically as if its circumference were one free-space wavelength
long when that circumference is actually physically smaller than one free-space wavelength.
Thus an electrically small, resonant structure is achieved
That is why Tariel Kapanadze coil is so small.
By combining a number of the toroidal conducting paths just described and by controlling the relative phases of the electromagnetic energy supplied to each path,
various embodiments of the structure and various antenna radiation patterns may be created.
the conducting paths have opposing senses, i.e., are contrawound.
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By appropriately feeding the contrawound paths, an electrically small, self-resonant antenna providing purely vertically polarized radiation having an omnidirectional radiation pattern may be realized.
One half of the electrically conducting path may be eliminated in the structure by employing the image theory technique.
A conducting image surface electrically supplies the missing portion of the path.
The image surface may be a conducting sheet, a screen or wires  like counterpoise
arranged to act electrically as a conducting sheet, or may be the earth.
That gives to the device potential to be  in motion like   powering the car, boat or ship.
by means of counterpoise/ sheet of metal/ screen of wires.
Antennas  as small as  few-thousands of the free space wavelength  have been build and successfully operating with submarines
But they did not use the image concept and they  have been employed to resonate in mode suitable to energy extraction. 

A particularly intriguing application of the structure is the construction and operation of a waveguide probe at the primary or higher mode resonance frequencies of the waveguide formed by the surface of the earth and ionosphere.
Because these resonance frequencies, the so-called Schumann resonances, are so low, e.g., about 8, 14 and 30 Hz,
 it has not heretofore been practical even to attempt to build a self-resonant structure to operate at any of the frequencies.

Although a waveguide probe resonantly operating at one of the Schumann resonance frequencies would be physically large,
it would still be electrically small and therefore realizable, as well as efficient.
Because propagation losses are so low at the primary Schumann resonance frequency
(below 0.25 dB per Mm according to published data), signals at that frequency may be transmitted to any point on the earth without significant attenuation.

So how about if we  try to receive  this  energy bouncing in the waveguide by relatively small antenna that  was named by Corum  Brothers the probe
using standing wave, and very small antenna that does not look like antenna...
Well this requires from me to show you  3 patent application not  made by Corum Brothers
including Tariel Kapanadze structure.

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An electrically small, efficient electromagnetic structure, that may be used as an antenna or waveguide probe, having an electromagnetically closed, velocity-inhibiting conducting path,
for supporting a standing, inhibited-velocity wave in response to the flow of an electrical current through the path and a process for establishing the standing wave.
Use of the structure is particularly advantageous at the lower end of the electromagnetic spectrum, where it produces purely vertically polarized radiation
in directional and omnidirectional patterns. 
The structure may be used to
excite and extract energy from  the earth-ionosphere cavity at the Schumann resonances.
the exact quote of one of  papers is:
"electromagnetic structures that can function as antennas for
/../ receiving electromagnetic energy and as waveguide probes in cavities for /../ extraction of electromagnetic energy."

I do not intend to hide anything that is my own intellectual property in this area  however if  it collides with intellectual property of people  who trust me than  I will respect their rights.

Wesley



 
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