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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1200 on: November 29, 2018, 06:49:21 AM »
Re Ansis's circuit diagram using a 555 and a modified color tv's LOPT for creating an ion wind. looking and thinking about the circuit
leads me to visualize what's actually happening here. I'm not really sure of what first might appears.
First, we appear to be generating a POSITIVE UHV and secondly with the DIODE and the 0.1 Capacitor at 20KV would be a huge thing!
like 10 microwave oven caps in series  which would be quite lethal once it charged up, perhaps jumping approximately 20mm or so
anyway besides that with the high impedance of the LOPT device it would take time to charge that size of capacitor up and it sounds
like you have to trim the charge time somewhat of the LOPT core gap which alters the energy storage time.
However, when a significant UHVoltage is reached depending on the Spark Gap the energy stored in the capacitor will be released causing a
reflection back into the LOPT primary of that energy causing the effect Ansis describes.

Sounds like fun but I wouldn’t like to spend much cash on the components  ;D ;D ;D PS don't get your fingers to close to the charged caps!

PS it would be very interesting to observe an oscillograph display printout of the waveform timing on a working device.


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« Last Edit: November 29, 2018, 11:07:04 AM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1200 on: November 29, 2018, 06:49:21 AM »

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« Reply #1201 on: November 29, 2018, 10:35:52 AM »
It was in old times, when I try to make efficient Ionisation and work with Ion Wind generator. Today I decide to tell about it to Wesley. Idea is simple. Very very simple. Kapanadze is genius.

Hi Ansis,
Thanks for posting your circuit diagram. Given that it is not surprising and even expected that the 300R resistor could smoke / device burn-out with this circuit, what else leads you to believe that this could be the basis of Kapanadze's devices?

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« Reply #1202 on: November 29, 2018, 11:12:33 AM »
   Yes, pretty amazing though. No battery, either. But, needs to pre charge the cap first, I think. 
   He should return to the PSEC tests, instead of trying to send mAs through the ground.
Yes Nick, which is why some have commented that his lab is probably close to a strong source of RF.

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« Reply #1203 on: November 29, 2018, 01:02:59 PM »
I confirm. It is a pleasure to read such obviousness and real knowledge succeeding in surviving in the midst of a sea of fictions and interpretations that are as nebulous as they are inconsistent.   ;D
My dear Francois. You are talented in your own part of   RF/ EMW
When you recall history of it  than   obviously you bounce on "ether"
Your own  knowledge  today is  a result of 19/ early 20th century errors and trials
And from that perspective you  wrote your own comment about  all  from above  I have  posted in this topic.


In free world you are allowed to accept and believe in black cat ,or Gods, and any  officially rejected or approved  physics.
So it is up to you my dear friend  of French  origin, to reject  or approve or critic anything around.
The problem is that  you need strong and reliable foundation  made by all historically present science and its re-formed  present time form factor,
to judge surface wave..make close to reality  approximation .(One of the factors used in analysis of Zenneck wave is approximation.)
Not only one MIT paper.  from 1996.
http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html
For easier understanding  look at you  at 1996?
You are not  that young any longer,
You do not have the same color of hair,and your  face changed.
You are more formulated today to yourself.
So is  Surface  wave and  one of its forms  Zenneck Wave

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Here is  some basic for you my friend to study :
1.https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave
2. it may take you a while before you will be ready for this: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf
  but of course it is extremely easy language for most readers skilled in art, as it was made to be  so.
  Yes  that does not  mean that you will  understand it from  the first time  . There was a time I didn't.
  Nothing to  be ashamed of.
3. this article is easy , and you know most of it but it is good as refreshment:  https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/
4. I have found  specially for you easy way to  compare your  comment about MIT 1996 to today's  opinion  in regards to subject in question.
  http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf
after you finish  all above  than go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=wIIABIU3tRw
and than go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ9SLux6OA&feature=youtu.be
and than go here:
http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc
After you click on the link, you need to download PDF
this article is made is by Saudis science.




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1204 on: November 29, 2018, 02:27:02 PM »
   Stivep:   
   Can you kindly explain in simple words why you have such an interest in the surface wave called Zenneck.   
 Why is it important to us? What benefits can be derived by us from it's use?    As I don't see the point, considering that this is a forum for OU research, and I don't see any relation to that type of technologies.   As it is not going to be free, as Tesla had planned it, nor OU, nor self running. Nor available to us, unless we pay them for the service. So, why are you plugging this commercial type of system, here? 
   Or is this only just your idea to disprove what happened at the lake video with the Kapanadze tests?
If so, that sounds pretty far fetched to me.
                                                                 NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1205 on: November 29, 2018, 03:56:22 PM »
   Stivep:   
   Can you kindly explain in simple words why you have such an interest in the surface wave called Zenneck.   
 Why is it important to us? What benefits can be derived by us from it's use?    As I don't see the point, considering that this is a forum for OU research, and I don't see any relation to that type of technologies.   As it is not going to be free, as Tesla had planned it, nor OU, nor self running. Nor available to us, unless we pay them for the service. So, why are you plugging this commercial type of system, here? 
   Or is this only just your idea to disprove what happened at the lake video with the Kapanadze tests?
If so, that sounds pretty far fetched to me.
                                                                 NickZ

I have stated it in number of my posts links above:
Simply in few words :
1.electrical energy  is sot  as energy send by Zenneck wave or other similar surface wave, possibly AROUND THE WORLD
2.that energy can be received by authorized  receivers such as . receiver towers delivering the energy to grid of countries in the world and located on territory of these countries. 
3.that energy can be received by authorized  receivers such as cars and ships  or other objects in motion  powered by electrical motors or using electricity.
4.that energy can replace land or pipe transport of oil,gas.
5.that energy can  eliminate gas and oil or/ and other natural resources as not needed in this application
6.that energy can  in result  create total collapse of  existing form of energy and oil industries.
7.that  means of sending  energy  can be  used  for global communication  of internet  and telephony  or other means of information networks, however now controlled and easy to switch off.
8.Surface  Wave unlike electromagnetic  Wave stops exists  when switch of the transmitter is off. While EMW still propagates "forever" till is lost in space.
9.that energy can  provide to collapse of Russia  and/or  pushing  oil countries to  convert their oil to electrical energy on their territory and sale it  cheap to  USA as patent holder.
  by sending it wirelessly to  Viziv or its subsidiaries. Than USA will decide who will be good enough to  them to be approved to buy it from USA.
10. Russia and Iran  can be defeated  in the matter of seconds bu switching the  switch off. If Russia will ever  be approved to sale its electrical energy  coming from its oil conversion.
11. Because of controversy  about Tariel Kapanadze  presentation on the island
it is thought that energy  presented by his device might be  the energy that was send from motel  on the coast  of steady land
( that lost 70% of his lightbulb power) during the presentation time so  by that  means of energy transfer far away
on the Island Tariel was able to provide the show.
And that is relation between  Zenneck wave and Tariel Kapanadze


12The most controversial to me is the set of papers anticipating or stating no losses in Zenneck wave interface.
     That can be  understood as "if"
      so if the  science this particular form of surface  wave does not experience losses in that interface or is omittably low  than cost of  delivery of energy/internet signal/ communication(telephony)
     is low or close to zero. than this means of  energy transfer will  be the smaller in cost  from every and any  energy used for conversion ( oil, gas)

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1206 on: November 29, 2018, 04:53:26 PM »
   Stivep:
   Ok, you are just repeating yourself. I'm not asking about what it will do to the competition, to Russia, US, to the economy, or anything else.   Please state how you think that this energy transfer method can help us, here. 
   You think that it will replace current types of energy (hydro, solar, wind, oil, coal, etz...) which are now being provided for public consumption, to another form of energy transfer to be provided for public consumption.  Which will probably not be cheaper, or better, and possibly more dangerous for living organisms, living close or far from the source. 
   NO FREE LUNCH. 
   Kapanadze has mentioned that his device(s) work as Tesla suggested, by tapping into the local surrounding ambient energies, present in the air around the device. Not on the other side of the lake, at the expense of the hotel AC grid system.
   Therefore, to state that you think that Tariel may have been using this Zenneck wave type of technology, at the lake video, is far fetched, and totally unproven. Please provide more evidence to support your claims. Or guesses.
As there is no controversy here, nor a shown relation, concerning Kapanadze using Zenneck waves, except in your mind.
And which at this time, can only serve to further discredit the honest work of best free energy inventor that world has presently got.

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« Reply #1207 on: November 29, 2018, 05:54:41 PM »
   Stivep:
   Ok, you are just repeating yourself. I'm not asking about what it will do to the competition, to Russia, US, to the economy, or anything else.   Please state how you think that this energy transfer method can help us, here. 
 
  I just answered your concern.
  You just did not read it.
 Just go up to my previous post and read FAT PRINT . only
Since we do not know what  energy of Akula ,Ruslan, Kapanadze, Anonim, Vasmus, SR, Chubanidze  and plenty of others comes from
We examine and look closely to  strange effect of small or no losses of Zenneck wave.
And article posted by me (but  you did not read it.) :
http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc
by Department of Electrical Engineering at United Arab Emirates University - University of Sharjah.
shows you  information about scattering and resonance taking place in environment containing interface and spheres.
And Earth  is the sphere along with  ionosphere and   along with interface.
Since Viziv mentioned very low frequencies, we may think of Schumann resonance.  and its harmonics.
But we also look  at scattering and resonance between the spheres of different  size.
that is what Viziv:
- did not tell us
- did not want to tell  us
 - or did not know about.
We know that  frequency used by most of  OU researchers is between few Hz and 1 MHz with most frequent 20kHz to 200kHz.
So  by that I'm looking at interaction in spherical waveguide such as earth- ionosphere.
Zeneck TX is similar to  picture below ( download the article from the link above)
 

In the simplest language  for the least advanced people in the planet earth  I can say:
Self runner   can exists  and we do not have to pay for energy.
But energy conversion is mandatory.
Energy must come from interaction and by means of interaction.

What you may have problem with is  to understand that Viziv transmitter  in its simplest form is just two sphere configuration.
is that simple enough?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/enbut
what about  the sphere or  two spheres inside the sphere ( earth/ ionosphere)  https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/

but if you rather prefer donuts than look here:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en and picture below
This is also Viziv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With all do respect NickZ  I'm trying my best to provide suitable explanation I really do.
I have no idea what other form of simplicity  I can apply,
maybe you know.?


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« Reply #1208 on: November 29, 2018, 06:29:46 PM »
   Ok, well it sounds like since you don't believe in what Kapanadze and other free energy device inventors have mentioned concerning the source of any "extra energy".  You look elsewhere for the cause of the observed or videoed effects shown.  I understand that.
  Yet, how is that going to help us, here. Other than to try and discredit all of the guys that you have just mentioned. As if they must all just be hiding a Zenneck wave transmitter in their back pocket, which no one sees or suspects.  Really...  Anyway, I think that I know where you are coming from, now. And you have answered my questions.
  Thanks, and good luck with the Zenneck wave studies.
   PS: EDIT
   Ever consider that guys like Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan, Cepren, SR, Vasmus, Adrian, jb-n107lab, and several others might just be telling and showing the truth?  And that you may be barking up the wrong tree?

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« Reply #1209 on: November 29, 2018, 06:40:29 PM »

   Ok, well it sound like since you don't believe in what Kapanadze and other free energy device inventors have mentioned concerning the source of any "extra energy".  You look elsewhere for the cause of the observed or videoed effects shown.  I understand that.
  Yet, how is that going to help us, here. Other than to try and discredit all of the guys that you have just mentioned. As if they must all just be hiding a Zenneck wave transmitter in their back pocket, which no one sees or suspects.  Really...  Anyway, I think that I know where you are coming from, now. And you have answered my questions.
  Thanks, and good luck with the Zenneck wave studies.
Dear NickZ
I'm not here to believe.!!!!
This is not my domain at all..!!!
I'm interested  in science to  be able question everything around. from physics stand point !!
I'm not discrediting  Kapanadze. at all.
He presented device that was working in front of my eyes.
Magician knows his tricks
tricks could be real and valuable.
But Tariel did not explain the tricks  to you guys.
 
Point of observation  gives  different  results  when angle  of that observation is changed.
Do you understand this  statement my dear friend NickZ?
I'm the one who is looking at the same phenomena from different angle in given time  frame.
So I'm cruising around . I like it.


Zeneck Wave  is  part of  answer and  is giving us possible explanation of energy origin.
But I agree with you  I do not know  everything .

nor I care about, nor I give damn about it .

I know certain solutions  I believe you never heard of.

I know certain solutions I have no  authorization to TALK ABOUT.
Could it be as big as  Tariel device?
The answer is  some of it  is the same and possibly bigger.
Tariel  did not understand much  he was just able to make things,
similar to man who invented compass not knowing that this magnet is  a compass  that was known   thousands years before .
He just rediscovered it.

Monkey is able to make spark by using  right stone. By that monkey  can create fire.
should monkey  understand  "how fire works?" to make this fire?


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« Reply #1210 on: November 29, 2018, 07:04:28 PM »
   A "possible explanation" needs some real facts, which have not been provided for as in any type of proof, at all, in your explanations. To believe, or not believe is not enough. Right.  Once you KNOW something to be true, believing is unnecessary.
   The fact that a multi million dollar corporation can provide for some form of energy transfer, in the form or Zenneck waves, does not mean or necessarly have any relation to what we have all seen on the self runner videos. 
   So, until some proof is supported by facts....  not imaginary "tricks", which Kapanadze didn't tell you about, either.

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« Reply #1211 on: November 29, 2018, 10:35:00 PM »
      So, until some proof is supported by facts....  not imaginary "tricks", which Kapanadze didn't tell you about, either.
I must agree with you NickZ.  Tariel did not tell me what that energy  is taken from.
I saw the device and nothing that  Tariel told me explained energy question.
The rest of that what Tariel told me, obeys required fairness from my side, in area of his  privacy and reverse.

However  you need to understand that word trick  also means:
-a peculiar or characteristic habit or mannerism. = form of defense and/or acting
-a sequence of cards forming a single round of play     = technique
-a sequence of  performed steps forming a  procedure.= technique, practice , maneuver.
So by you adding negative connotation to word Trick you only make controversy around my position to FE more difficult for others to understand.
Wesley
 

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« Reply #1212 on: November 29, 2018, 11:25:41 PM »
Part #6  Zenneck surface Wave for beginners :
this part will be re edited  during today and more information will be  included.
For these who do not yet realize how important  this study is to the whole world please go to  links  at the bottom of this post.below:
Transmitter and receiver of Zenneck Wave.


Today I'm presenting  addition to  last post
- principal  secrets of the Transmitter of Zenneck Surface wave.

 Conditions: to lunch Zenneck surface Wave
1. Tesla coil like structure can be  build using two capacitors.( e.g spheres) ( or more)
These capacitors are placed vertically  in  line  one above the other [in the imaginary  line perpendicular to the ground ( earth)]
 adjustments shown on the picture makes Zenneck wave

2. Mirror image of the charges  in the two spheres is created in the ground.

3. Regular Electromagnetic Wave is alive "forever" once is transmitted.
    surface  wave dies when the switch of the transmitter is switched OFF.


Selected by date chronology  of posts  about  VIziv  estimated half a billion  US $ investment in energy transfer without the wire.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526668/#msg526668
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526966/#msg526966
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527019/#msg527019
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527386/#msg527386
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527435/#msg527435

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1213 on: November 30, 2018, 07:05:43 AM »
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Monkey is able to make spark by using right stone. By that monkey create fire.
should monkey understand  "how fire works?" to make this fire?

Which begs the question... is it wise to give every monkey knowledge and understanding which could give them the power to burn this planet to the ground?. This is the problem with giving knowledge to primitive minds with a self-serving and often violent nature. In my opinion there is no preventing them from destroying themselves because the problem was never knowledge it was there destructive nature.


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« Reply #1214 on: November 30, 2018, 10:08:47 AM »
Which begs the question... is it wise to give every monkey knowledge and understanding which could give them the power to burn this planet to the ground?. This is the problem with giving knowledge to primitive minds with a self-serving and often violent nature. In my opinion, there is no preventing them from destroying themselves because the problem was never knowledge it was (there) THEIR destructive nature.
And you should I suppose!

 

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