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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #120 on: June 09, 2018, 08:46:13 AM »
That was a long time ago... :'( Here is the original, "first release":

https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=106822#106822

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #121 on: June 09, 2018, 04:07:53 PM »
Thank you Sergh for your help in obtaining original text.



Note:
when reading and comparing text below - please look at added by me , symbols on both of the  drawings.
e.g. "all assembly"  and "impulse transformer " is shown on lower drawing.
Note:
word"cтpoчник" is not translated  I need help  to translate it .

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Wesley's translation of original Russian text :

Niki said that   in the box one of elements  was  capacitor C 20uF 1000V
Taking to consideration all of variables / theories, here you have how  it should/ may look like.
 Any kind of HV, made by any kind of  self generating circuit or  generator.
( Wesley:  Colpitts, Meisner    and so on..)
Or generator made from computer  Power Supply (PS)  that has Transformer
of which secondary winding we  are able to take 1-3kV. 
   
Wesley: From that phrase just memorize - ANY HV SOURCE OF IMPULSES
but it could be also coming  straight from HV transformer and such transformer can be powered by  any impulse generator of out choice.

That  voltage 1-3kV from above is rectified  by diode D and charges  bank of capacitors C connected in parallel - model 20kV.  Model K15-1Y  or  20KVI-3  ( ~4700pF)
Wesley: This is not critical.Important is just max V and experimentally  set  capacitance.

At 3kV  we start to see  spark in spark gap.
That spark  makes capacitor  to discharge thru ONE WIND coil  of impulse transformer .
Core of this impulse transformer  is made from 5  ferrites ( от cтpoчникoв) I think   cтpoчник=welder ?/ relay?.( help in translation needed)
Secondary  of this impulse transformer is made  from 3-4 winds of fat  copper wire  from welding machine.
And from this secondary winding impulse  goes to ground #1 and by capacitor 20uF in resonance circuit into  ground #2.
Wesley's comment:
Proper wording should be:..  by resonance circuit working at 50Hz and made from coil and capacitor.


Polarity of impulses on both  grounds will be opposite in any given time frame.
Current of  an impulse  will be quite high and length  of signals will be very short
Another words short enough to not be able to act as shunt  in that distance of the ground(~10m) between  ground#1 and ground #2.
Wesley's comment:  Here (below) we have somewhat improper  terminology but
I will try to stick to it.
(That) impulse (from above) is propagating  in form  of electromagnetic waves in different directions from the ground/ of that ground/ in the ground.

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In Near Field  of Tx-Transmitting antenna, in the distance that is shorter than  one wavelength,  based on evidence  of our experimental  data UWB-CCHP, we see that we have presence of the same  single polarity of the impulse.
Wesley's comment: so we have continuously present  +  or -

And only after that, this signal  becomes  in its from  an electromagnetic wave. 
Because of that -this   (lets call it- "singularly") polarized wave will be spread , and travel  in this from up to certain distance from that point.   
Wesley's comment:
Polarization of EM  will be explained by me  if  requested. (e.g  longitudinally, vertically  helically  polarized )


That is because we have strong absorption of electromagnetic energy by the ground to such point that there would not be repeated  oscillations ( bounced EM)
Both of  the ground rods  including each of these ground rods  surrounding  areas will differ in  charge level.
Wesley's comment: they will not be at the same level of potential.

Now we see that because  of it we have flow of the current  between two grounds .

Wesley's  wording used  but  the sense of original  text is  translated  exactly  in  the way it was written:

If we now tune  the distance between electrodes of  spark gap  in such a way that  it will have the highest amplitude of resonance  of plasma flow  at 50Hz ( please do not confuse it  with visual intensity  of plasma),
and:
after we done that, we now tune   to the same frequency resonance circuit ( L+C1 ~20uF/1000V) transformer ( means all assembly)
After we done  that, we should be  able to see  presence of optimal level of electrical  energy  flow between and around area occupied by both  of the ground rods.

Now  we need to mention few details:
-it is quite possible that spark gap frequency should be twice as big (2x).
But since both of these( 2x)  doubled  of each of period of impulse are made of  opposite polarity half of periods, - accumulation of the charge is done wit different polarity is such a way   that  it becomes synchronized with  current  flowing in load R.
Or we can add additional circuit   that will make capacitor  0.1uf model  KVI K15-1Y  - C
 to be charged  one time with   positive and one time with negative polarity  of  half  periods.
For these who knows  inductance of primary  winding / secondary winding of some of small  welding transformer you may check if you would be able to  get  resonance at 50hz  when you have connected in parallel  C1   20uf capacitor?   
 
Wesley
 
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #122 on: June 10, 2018, 09:42:08 PM »

Dropbox :since this is more like diary or  storage box I will store here some handy  links that I found to be interesting or important.
So this  is my :

Dropbox #1
High Voltage Electrostatics:  http://www.keelynet.com/
-intro to electets: 
 htthttp://www.keelynet.com/electret.htmp://www.keelynet.com/indexjan16.html


-Self-Generating Electrical Discharge  Alexander V. Frolov :
http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov1.htm
http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov2.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm                             Plasmatron (this link is partially BS  but has important information)
http://revolution-green.com/high-power-electrostatic-motor-95-efficency/     High Power Electrostatic Motor with 95% Efficency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6oAZi8Cc5I 
three components  we need :
1.electrical  motor 1 or 3 ph.
2. capacitor
3. diode
all of them are present  in the video.
The guy has no idea  about (conditions and components needed):
a. resonance frequency
b.  two grounds ,
But he has Variable Frequency Drives VFD
to get  anything  is needed.
(this video in in relation  with material from above)

https://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg400411/#msg400411  Solar Lab reference links.



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #123 on: June 10, 2018, 11:25:03 PM »
Wesley, have you ever tried to run an electrostatic motor, of any design, in a vacuum?

If so , what was the actual pressure of your "vacuum" and how did you power the motor and how did you measure its torque?



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #124 on: June 11, 2018, 12:17:24 AM »
Tinsel your a clever guy! any idea how I can generate a 9hz stand alone tone from a freely available crystal by division or knocking out bits ?
Since 9hz appears to be a resonant spacial lock on frequency rather than 8hz, the Don Smith device for one at 35.1khz.

Many thanks
ag

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #125 on: June 11, 2018, 03:13:22 AM »
Tinsel your a clever guy! any idea how I can generate a 9hz stand alone tone from a freely available crystal by division or knocking out bits ?
Since 9hz appears to be a resonant spacial lock on frequency rather than 8hz, the Don Smith device for one at 35.1khz.

Many thanks
ag
Uh huh. I see you posted a link to my "subharmonic" demonstration video... but the message was lost on the target audience. Oh well.


Meanwhile: this might work for you:

MicroSemi ZL30167: among many other features:
"Four Programmable synthesizers generate any clock rate from 1 Hz to 750 MHz"
https://www.microsemi.com/product-directory/otn-timing/4622-zl30167
Get the exact, stable frequencies you need, beat them together, have a fine party.


Of course if you don't need absolute stability or multiple independent clocks you can generate a reasonable 9Hz signal with a 555 timer chip and a few resistors and capacitors.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #126 on: June 11, 2018, 04:40:23 AM »
So here  is another factor supporting working model  of Tariel Kapanadze devices  promoted by me

Рабочая модель Тариэля Капанадзе, продвигаемая мной.
На этом острове нет электричества.
Тариэль подключил к устройству нагрузку 10 кВт. в виде лампочек.
Мы знаем что электродвигател без механической нагрузки тянет  больше тока, только в течение первых нескольких секунд .
После этого требуется часть "начального тока". (этот конкретный двигатель ~ 0.71 A при 220V.)
Почему Тариэль нуждался в этом моторе?
Ответ в сообщении, -( сделанны  мной ранее.) Просто прочитайте


Here  below is the picture  form presentation  that  was made on deserted remote island .
There is no electricity on that island.
Tariel had 10kW load connected to the device.  in form of light bulbs
 
We know that electric motor without mechanical load takes larger current only  during first few seconds and after that  takes   fraction of "start" current.
this particular one ~0.71 A at 220V.

So now THINK MY FRIENDS ...
Why Tariel was in need to have that motor there?

or
as an answer you take   material posted by me earlier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLxTjc9m3k





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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #127 on: June 11, 2018, 05:11:31 AM »
Wesley, have you ever tried to run an electrostatic motor, of any design, in a vacuum?

If so , what was the actual pressure of your "vacuum" and how did you power the motor and how did you measure its torque?

It runs excellent i vacuum  and far from magnetic field.
I have seen your work too.
thank you
http://www.extra.research.philips.com/hera/people/aarts/_Philips%20Bound%20Archive/PTechReview/PTechReview-30-1969-178.pdf


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2018, 05:21:01 AM »
Tinsel your a clever guy! any idea how I can generate a 9hz stand alone tone from a freely available crystal by division or knocking out bits ?
Since 9hz appears to be a resonant spacial lock on frequency rather than 8hz, the Don Smith device for one at 35.1khz.

Many thanks
ag
Interesting, tell me more
 
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2018, 05:21:01 AM »
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2018, 05:53:29 AM »
It runs excellent i vacuum  and far from magnetic field.
I have seen your work too.
thank you
http://www.extra.research.philips.com/hera/people/aarts/_Philips%20Bound%20Archive/PTechReview/PTechReview-30-1969-178.pdf


Wesley
I asked you if _you_ have ever tried to run an electrostatic motor in a vacuum. And I asked what _your_ true vacuum pressure was, and how _you_ powered it and how _you_ measured the torque.

And also... what powered your vane and turbomolecular vacuum pumps? I'll bet you a cheezburger it wasn't an electrostatic motor. Of course to run an ES motor "in vacuo" you may need such a hard vacuum that you are using diode ion pumps (electrostatic!) at the final stage.








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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #130 on: June 11, 2018, 08:19:13 AM »
Interesting, tell me more
 
Wesley
Well Well it's complicated but with out going in to it too much, but it looks like the earth resonates at a base frequency of 8hz
and the universe at 9hz it can get spooky but things tend to end up being high energy based at ether one or the other frequency, or a
combination like 432 adds up to 9 the energy of the universe creation it self like it or not, and also divides equally 9 and 8 and it also in
harmony with us humans as in PLEASING HARMONIOUS music.
If your going to pick a frequency or vibration everything has to be in tune.
However base 9hz or 432hz is not an easy frequency to synthesis of the shelf!
What does it have to do with this subject ? EVERYTHING!

AG

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #131 on: June 11, 2018, 10:02:43 AM »
The circuit I developed has nothing to do with Kapanadze. It was created after the first viewing of Kapanadze's video about the green box. It seemed to me that he uses 2 grounds at the same time. But this is not so.

We know that between the sky and the Earth there is a voltage of 150 volts per meter. But under normal conditions, the current from one square meter is very weak.

We know that Tesla in the 1930s wrote that he came up with how to use cosmic rays as a source of free energy. In an interview with a journalist, he said that it is necessary to use ionization of very large volumes of air.

With the  my circuit, probably it is possible to create an impulse voltage over a large area of ​​the Earth's surface. Due to the presence of tips from grass, trees and other irregularities, effective ionization will occur. Negative ions are formed, which will slowly rise upward. In their place from the opposite section will flow current. Part of this current in the Earth's surface will be closed through a wire between two groundings, which will allow to receive energy.

The circuit  was not checked properly.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #132 on: June 11, 2018, 10:34:34 AM »
The circuit I developed has nothing to do with Kapanadze. It was created after the first viewing of Kapanadze's video about the green box. It seemed to me that he uses 2 grounds at the same time. But this is not so.

We know that between the sky and the Earth there is a voltage of 150 volts per meter. But under normal conditions, the current from one square meter is very weak.

We know that Tesla in the 1930s wrote that he came up with how to use cosmic rays as a source of free energy. In an interview with a journalist, he said that it is necessary to use ionization of very large volumes of air.

With the  my circuit, probably it is possible to create an impulse voltage over a large area of ​​the Earth's surface. Due to the presence of tips from grass, trees and other irregularities, effective ionization will occur. Negative ions are formed, which will slowly rise upward. In their place from the opposite section will flow current. Part of this current in the Earth's surface will be closed through a wire between two groundings, which will allow to receive energy.

The circuit  was not checked properly.
Hmm! 50hz could be a problem!  :-X :-[ and that output transmuglifier on the output wouldn't it be a bit of a hand full at that
frequency  to say the least, not exactly portable  ;D ??

AG

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #133 on: June 11, 2018, 10:47:50 AM »
According to Henry Moray (imho) this ionization is always here but at the slow rate. The voltage potential between ground and not so high elevated things are equal because this energy is HF and propagating quite easily through the surface of insulators (that last is my theory only).
That's why Edwin Gray was talking about recreating the lightning.

What if you throw grounded wire up to the sky for example 1000m above the ground ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #134 on: June 11, 2018, 11:35:22 AM »
According to Henry Moray (imho) this ionization is always here but at the slow rate. The voltage potential between ground and not so high elevated things are equal because this energy is HF and propagating quite easily through the surface of insulators (that last is my theory only).
That's why Edwin Gray was talking about recreating the lightning.

What if you throw grounded wire up to the sky for example 1000m above the ground ?
What you could do is take a leaf out of the Chem trail crims idea and get some highly static expanded polystyrene and blow it into the sky
that should lower the static potential altitude some what  ;D
Or just simply generate your own RF static ! just blowing corona ark what will that do unless you put the idea into a fly back coil and collect the static
charge and process it.

AG

Some clever German mathematician called Steinmetz said wind a bit of copper wire round some soft iron pass an electrical spike through it
to produce a magnetic induction and it will collapse into an infinite dielectric voltage, NOTE THE WORD INFINITE VOLTAGE.

 

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