Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[Void]

   Guys: The Schumann resonance frequency is now frequently changing, and has had bursts of up to 90hz.
Which means that if a device is tuned to an older Schumann frequency, it may not work the same now.
What if this mentioned frequency has nothing to do with what Tesla was mentioning about tapping into the ambient surrounding energy. The Cosmic soup, etz...   
What if you leave the planet? What frequency does deep space hold? 
   May we be barking up the wrong tree? Maybe it's not the Schumann resonant frequency at all, that we should be tuning into.

Hi Nick. I have not so far seen anything at all that gives any compelling indication that Kapanadze
may be making use of Schumann resonance waves at the surface of the Earth or similar. Kapanadze
himself may not know at all where the energy is coming from.  He may just know what to do to
make a working device based on some info someone passed on to him at some point, or possibly from
some obscure document he came across, and possibly just not know where the extra energy is coming from.
(Assuming it really works as claimed and as demonstrated by Kapanadze).

[Sergh]

This is another piece of disinformation because of the minority opinion.
Previously, another vocal individual has voiced the same concern. I was trying to comment but I finally gave up. Every real antenna engineer knows what's wrong with your concerns #1 and #3.

Can you read these articles from independent engineers?

http://www.vlf.it/kurt/elf.html
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18969
https://jwcn-eurasipjournals.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s13638-018-1157-7

 If you are a electronics engineer, you need to understand how low the level of energy is.

[lancaIV]

Wesley,
if there has not to be the dependance from one frequency bandgap/bandwidth solely, what would you use as total receiveable radiation spectrum " diaphragm" ?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/alexander-graham-bell-patents-the-telephone
Electro-magneto-acoustics : opto ( parabol,  hyperbol)

           dormant bonanzas : WIPO-archive

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Alexander+Graham+bell&CPC=&IC=
Bauer, ......., Fessenden :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Fessenden&IN=&CPC=&IC=
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Fessenden

[stivep]

Schumann waveguide should not be seen as Schumann resonances per say .
Schumann  Resonance only allows you to send  signal from point A to point B without significant losses.
That includes Ground Wave, Surface Wave, and traditional  electromagnetic  communication.
The guided wave travels along  curvature of the earth.
And that is  about all in this area.
Corum Bross included that information in their patents.
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The novelty  is  extraction energy  from that Schumann Waveguide.
So  in the big picture there are two alternatives:
1- Tariel  knows about Surface Wave but he  had no idea  that he deals with Surface Wave.
Theoretically to make Tx and Rx for such assembly  is about 1 to 3 days.
And for these who did it before  1 to 3 hours.( with help of two, three people in physical assembly)

1a- testing and tuning takes  few hours to few days but less than 3 days for starters.

1b- There is indication that in the island presentation light in the motel  dimmed significantly.
Tariel was across  the water on the island. Part of his crew was in the motel.
That fact was  absolutely proven by my very credible  sources.
However we may say that it was purely coincidental.
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2- Tariel knowing technique of Zenneck  transmission went further  up and extracted energy from Schumann  Waveguide
That is in theory even simpler than transmission of Zenneck Wave  as you do not need transmitter.
Each lightning strike  creates avalanche of  lightning strikes around the earth.

High quality lightning data has only recently become available, but the data indicates that lightning occurs on average 44 times every second over the entire Earth, making a total of about 1.4 billion flashes per year.

All  of them must dissipate in the earth.

Wesley

[lancaIV]

Hi Wesley, thanks for the comments.
As I see it, the problem is IMO that you have not said or demonstrated anything so far that
would seem to lend concrete support to the idea that low frequency waveforms at the Earth's surface
are being tapped into as the source of the extra energy. I am not saying that idea is necessarily
wrong, just that I don't think you have presented anything which seems to give real support to this idea
of yours. Why do I say 'low frequency' above? Because Schumann resonance frequencies are supposed to
be quite low frequency.

It will always come back to the same point with anyone anywhere (not just here) in regards to these type of ideas.
If a person can't show anything concrete to back up the notion that energy is being extracted from the Earth's surface,
then people can only take it as an as yet unsupported idea. That's my point of view anyway.

Related Schumann frequency spectrum :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.planetware.de%2Ftune_in%2Fschumann.html

[Void]

Hi Wesley. You seem to be taking people's natural hesitance against jumping to conclusions
about these sorts of things personally, but it is not personal at all. For myself, not wanting to jump
to any conclusions about this sort of stuff comes from long experience.

I am actually not ruling out what you have been saying at all in regards to Earth surface/ground waves
of low frequency as being the possible source of extra energy in these setups. I am thinking about
it and trying to see how it might work. The fact that Frank Wyatt Prentice seems to possibly have done
something similar to that approach in 1923, makes me think it may be possible.  See the attached
Prentice drawing again. 

The top 'Transmitter' section has a long 800m approx. wire a short distance above the ground
and a sparkgap at the end near the end grounding point. The sparkgap may cause disruptions/disturbances
in the ground underneath which may draw in energy into the long wire from low frequency waves in the Earth
and thus increase the energy on the long wire by a factor of about 6 when it was all tuned properly.
The small receiving loop is tuned to the transmitter frequency and receives this 'amplified energy' from
the long transmitting wire. If we replace Prentice's 800m long wire with a short tuned coil, it might
still work about the same. It does seem to possibly mirror Kapanadze's setup fairly closely, except
Kapanadze used a much more compact transmitter/disrupter and receiver coil assembly. Am I close
to your ideas Wesley?

P.S.
Maybe what Kapanadze had in his tobacco can besides a flyback transformer was a tuneable HV capacitor (#23 in Prentice's drawing)...

[Void]

Hi Wesley. You can find the PDF file for that Prentice patent attached to my message here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg523030/#msg523030

[AlienGrey]

Wesley Hi this is my contribution a four-phase clock contribution.
If you want a 50 Hz or 60 you have to drive it with 4 times that frequency
The CD4046 is simply a stable VFO

[lancaIV]

https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/3555/
#3556 and #3564

     Tekla Ozkan " simple thinking" ( ~ Tanaka Saburo,  Keiichiro Asaoka Inverter generator)


http://www.patentsencyclopedia.com/app/20090079393
Attention,  probably " getuerkt" ! 


For " more complexity thinker" :

Triangle 1 : DC/AC left-/ or up helix
Triangle 2: AC/DC right/ or down helix

Tornado ? N-P-N holes principle ?

N1 : CCW or CW
P
N2 : CW or CCW                 

   NPN Trans-Resistor " Transistor" ,      a.  Photo-copler  b.  Phono-copler          to RTS/HTS

BTW : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1932-Bridgeport-Phono-Electric-Trolley-Bus-Ad-wg393-MBFA2Q-/290875565380?redirect=mobile
alloy material mix ?

[Ansis]

To Void, Wesley.
I see you are back on the right track!
Void, I think like you about 15 years from now.
Your Wireless Video was realy good!
Wesley, I think Kapanadze use sea water like medium, but very thick multi strands wire which he buried in the Sea was Antena. It is Energy from Medium, which contains EM Field. He makes loop.
In that loop he amplifiere field.
Thats it!

[stivep]

Schumann resonance does not allow us to send a signal from point A to point B without significant losses. The losses are considerable, question of wavelength far too long for the possible sizes of radiant systems.
In front of you, you do not only have blind believers in fairy tales or uneducated ignoramuses. You have curious, critical and competent minds, with strong objections which you do not respond, or by digressions, and which you confuse with missiles.

 

Schumann resonance frequencies are lower than expected for an ideal cavity, i.e., two concentric layers of infinite conductivity filled by a lossless dielectric medium  [Jackson, 1999

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2002JA009779

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth.

That is in my previous post  I said:

Think about Standing Wave deformation at your higher Schumann Resonance frequency
And you'll get your FE.

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530166/#msg530166

some harmonic of the fundamental earth resonant frequency—up to approximately 25 – 35 kHz—is used for the oscillator frequency.
In this frequency range the around-the-world propagation efficiency is in the general area between 93 to 87%

https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/wardenclyffe-lab-1901-1906/connection-to-earth/proposed-methods-for-terrestrial-resonance/
Please read all of it!!

Appendix II, "The Zenneck Surface Wave"]
The oscillatory transformer provides the high voltage alternating current needed to periodically charge the transmitter’s elevated terminal.
A monochromatic subcarrier signal is then added.
This is in the form of an abrupt lower frequency electrical impulse applied at a rate approaching the fundamental earth resonance frequency.
Higher frequency impulses, above the oscillator frequency are also added at every harmonic of the low frequency subcarrier impulse, be it
the fundamental earth resonance frequency or some lower harmonic of same. [Corum & Corum]
While the following quote refers to the use of an RF alternator in conjunction with a resonance transformer to produce continuous waves,
it appears to be applicable to the excitation of earth resonance modes as well. .

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en

Because propagation losses are so low at the primary Schumann resonance frequency (below 0.25 dB per Mm according to published data),
signals at that frequency may be transmitted to any point on the earth without significant attenuation.

Wesley

[lancaIV]

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds
Many did read this news but forgot  !

A. "electrical efficiency > 100%" as term for FE devices

B.  " ....   It begins to cool down..."

C.  ".... and applied smaller and smaller voltages. Every time the Voltage was halved,
            the electrical power was reduced by a factor of fourbut the light power only
            dropped by a factor of two.   ...."

[Sergh]

A.  " ...."
B.  " ...."
C.  ".... "

D. "....69 picowatts of light, of course, is a very small amount" 69 picowatts = 0,000 000 000 069 Watt,  very very very small amount energy from ambient heat, not usable.

[F6FLT]

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds
Many did read this news but forgot  !

A. "electrical efficiency > 100%" as term for FE devices
...

I had seen this article when it came out, source paper here. It would be revolutionary in principle, since it would be a Maxwell demon.
On the practical side, the energy in question is on the order of tens of pW, so no practical interest without considerable improvements.
But there are worse things. This scientific paper is questionable.  Cooling was not measured but calculated. The paper was refuted, a real measure would have indicated an absence of cooling:
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2012/ph250/kumar2/
"The authors did not directly observe cooling, mostly because they did not thermally isolate the diode, instead they chose to keep the temperature fixed! They calculate the net cooling. In simple terms, one would not observe cooling in the recombination dominated region."

[lancaIV]

D. "....69 picowatts of light, of course, is a very small amount" 69 picowatts = 0,000 000 000 069 Watt,  very very very small amount energy from ambient heat, not usable.

       "C. THE RATIO FROM POWER FACTOR AND HEAT FACTOR APPLIED "( + Newton* meter Factor)

                  " picowatts "- device as q.e.d. for him and his POWER KW/KVA RATIO description :               
               to  mega.         

 http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en