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« Reply #1050 on: November 02, 2018, 07:04:52 PM »
My dear Hoppy. Physics has nothing to do with believes and disbelieves, or genies

Wesley


Agreed. However, when truths get thoroughly intertwined with falsehoods as is the situation in the world we now live in, its common perceptions gathered that guide the vast majority of people into beliefs and disbeliefs. Thus the Genie has left bottle.

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« Reply #1051 on: November 02, 2018, 07:35:41 PM »
Agreed. However, when truths get thoroughly intertwined with falsehoods as is the situation in the world we now live in, its common perceptions gathered that guide the vast majority of people into beliefs and disbeliefs. Thus the Genie has left bottle.
I must agree
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« Reply #1052 on: November 02, 2018, 07:42:44 PM »
On the Viziv
I did start a topic here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21067-tesla-tower-texas.html
Member Ernst has expressed his opinion [he has  Mini Wardenclyffe }
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Thank you for the  link my friend
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« Reply #1053 on: November 02, 2018, 07:47:00 PM »
   
   Along with NASA's lies, and oil companies controlling the economy to their own whims. Lies are what we hear about the most.
   Electric cars may not be any safer than gasoline engines. Until they do away with the expensive car batteries. We're all stuck in a rut.   Or not...   
   Anyways, what does this have to do with Kapanadze, Akula, and other related Free Energy devices, that this thread is supposed to be about?   Nuclear power is not free. Nor user friendly for the home experimenter. Nor for anyone else...
  And, who knows what a Tesla Wireless type power plant will do to the animals, plants, and of course, to us. 
  A better idea is to have and use individual home free energy generators, instead. And NOT try to electrify the needs of the whole world through wireless ground/air transfer. Which may have as yet unknown negative effects, and may not be ultimately as free, as Tesla had planned it to be.
                                           NickZ
   

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« Reply #1054 on: November 02, 2018, 08:30:29 PM »
   
  A better idea is to have and use individual home free energy generators, instead. And NOT try to electrify the needs of the whole world through wireless ground/air transfer. Which may have as yet unknown negative effects, and may not be ultimately as free, as Tesla had planned it to be.
                                           NickZ
 
Security and control of the grid is of paramount importance to our future whichever methods of transmission are used. The average Joe public have no real interest in the technicals but do care about whether it is being controlled in the best interests of the people. It matters little whether the grid is abolished and its deemed possible and practical to replace with individual home generation, if the controlling governments / corporations continue to hold the people to ransom on the supply and price of the utility. Only the naive would believe that the supply and control over their domestic energy needs could ever be freely handed over to them in the corrupted world we live in today.

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« Reply #1055 on: November 02, 2018, 08:38:40 PM »
Wesley's personal opinion:
  shortened: 
   1.We don't even know what cell phones and their towers will do to us, after they implement the G5 systems. 
   2.Long term effects are not being tested, either, as yet.

   3.Nuclear radiation, is NOT the same or similar to the Suns radiation. Although even that can change, and is changing.
   4.Yet people are still living in the supposed radioactive areas, in several places around the world, as well as animal life, plants, fruits
   5.So, the idea that thousand of years need to pass for those affected radioactive areas to become safe again, is being continually distorted to further scare and control us.
   6.I have worked with oscillators and yoke cores for a while now, and have experienced NO ill effects, at least that I'm aware of.
   
ad1: Not knowing = lack of education in that particular field, and leads to:
-   ignorance
-   opposition
-   religious believes where prove is not required and an  idea of any prove  is carefully removed from believers minds.
    (Just to hard work, for the "priests" to make money on it)
    "Not knowing" can not change Physics and its understanding about that what is not known to some others.
     physics does not care about  ignorance,opposition, and believes.

Ad2. Something must be affected  to become   the base to any short or long therm effects. If there is nothing in human body that is affected by RF than  there is no long or short
       repercussions of it .

Ad3. Nuclear radiation is exactly the same to Sun radiation and the same rules apply to nano micro, macro and mega scale .

Ad4. I agree. If you live in area of radioactive decay that does not mean that it affects you and your body. But it is increased risk of you being affected .
        Human being  who was told about it, has minimum 50 years in his/her adult life to self-educate , educate others,  and  obey the rules and/or move from there.
        Example:
Beta can travel only 20cm in average.
Alpha few milimeters   in average
Gamma few meters in average
But its intensity is measured according to inverse square law and energetic level of  an emitter.
So if you fed up with traffic, than move to forest of Pennsylvania or Rain Forest  You will not be annoyed by cars,  however  some other creatures will come to play.
 
Ad5. Nope. The damage done from 1974 to 2014 to the mammals in this planet ~ 64% due to human activity. If we stop it today than few millions years takes to the Nature to restore it.
                   The damage done from the beginning of human civilization till 2014 is 82% to  plant ad animals on this planet.
                    82%-62%=18% so by that human creature  killed only 18% of plants and animals from its ape form for  200 millions of years .
                                             so by that few years of modern time made  the most of the damage                                 

So I disagree with you.
There likely will be no recovery and no millions years for us to come.
We are done for good.
We just do not see it yet.
Forget about nuclear waste and nuclear origin damage done by us the humans - its impact is omissible  when compared to that.

Ad6. I'm glad that you have no health issues  working with yokes  just apply inverse square law.
I think that some of other readers still have problem to understand it.
think about 129dB sound that can damage your  hearing  receptors - according to inverse square law.
Picture below shows what is happening  when you move just little  away from the source
For microphones vs sound strength of your voice it applies too. 
http://www.notetalker.com/us/news/why-smartphones-need-external-microphones-to-improve-sound-quality/
Wesley

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« Reply #1056 on: November 02, 2018, 09:09:46 PM »
  I'm not sure what or who you trust as being "the truth", but, take a look at this video when you have the time.
The video below is a bit long, but full of facts, and opinions about your favorite nuclear subject.
   And you are right, most of us know nothing about the real consequences of Nuclear power, or it's side effects.  As yet...
unless you live in Japan.   
   I think that you'll find this video of interest.   https://youtu.be/vkAFu7HQyzY
   So, you think that nuclear power and the Sun are the EXACT same thing. 
   The Sun is NOT like a nuclear reactor, nor anything like it. We still hear that the Sun rays are coming to Earth, and lighting and warming it up. But, that is not the case, either.  Check the distance compared to the "inverse square law".  BS abounds.
Like the Earth is flat. Right...   
 

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« Reply #1057 on: November 02, 2018, 10:32:17 PM »
  I'm not sure what or who you trust as being "the truth", but, take a look at this video when you have the time.
The video below is a bit long, but full of facts, and opinions about your favorite nuclear subject.
   And you are right, most of us know nothing about the real consequences of Nuclear power, or it's side effects.  As yet...
unless you live in Japan.   
   I think that you'll find this video of interest.   https://youtu.be/vkAFu7HQyzY
   So, you think that nuclear power and the Sun are the EXACT same thing. 
   The Sun is NOT like a nuclear reactor, nor anything like it. We still hear that the Sun rays are coming to Earth, and lighting and warming it up. But, that is not the case, either.  Check the distance compared to the "inverse square law".  BS abounds.
Like the Earth is flat. Right...


I do thank you very much  for that link.
I have heard about that guy  a lot. I have seen short clips with him,. I have heard  his swimming story. but For the first time
I got all of it in one piece.

As far as Sun is involved.  My dear friends  I'm  right  to the single bit standing that  exactly the same rules apply.
The difference between me and  many of other conservative people digging in physics  is that I do not represent  anyone paid agenda.
That makes me  conservative without the ballast.
I do not have to smile just because someone wants me to smile.

Wesley

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« Reply #1058 on: November 03, 2018, 12:08:15 AM »
I've seen that video on nuclear radioactive being a hoax but you can play with uranium or plutonium all you like but it will eradicate you!
Oh and don't tell me it's a cure for cancer BS if you read about its history you will find Madam Curie had calyces all over her right hand from
 messing with the stuff ect ect personly
I wouldn't take any one's opinion on stuff today as somewhere along the line you're going to find they might just have an alternate interest
to your own or the actual truth, that's what I find.

Re the sun, the sun can't radiate heat in a vacuum no matter what anyone says but it can transmit radio waves our earth magnetic core sees to that!
One other thing you mentioned religion demonic beings exist like it or not, in fact, the East coast of America is the most haunted place on the planet.

Happy days eh!
 

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« Reply #1059 on: November 03, 2018, 02:19:41 AM »
I've seen that video on nuclear radioactive being a hoax but you can play with uranium or plutonium all you like but it will eradicate you!
Oh and don't tell me it's a cure for cancer.
I agree  with you on it. only to the certain extend.

Galen Winsor was genetically strong person.
However he died from Leukemia.
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Depleted uranium (DU) is a dense heavy metal used in military applications.
During military conflicts, US military personnel have been wounded by DU shrapnel.
The health effects of embedded DU are unknown.
Published data from our laboratory demonstrated that DU exposure in vitro can transform immortalized human osteoblast cells (HOS) to the tumorigenic phenotype
Tumorigenic phenotype promotes  but not  make cancer.
                           Fire "promotes" but not cause the death accident caused by fire.
https://sci.life-extension.narkive.com/1hlCd29W/crazy-nuclear-energy-promoter-now-dead-from-leukemia

Fireman although exposed much more to fire is less likely to die from fire than average person.
And for these who doubt this truth it is easy to compare number of interactions with fire  in both civilian and fireman.
And do the  simple math per incident by means of historical data for both the civilian and fireman.
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When I spoke with Ray just two years ago, he was still in good health, even though he was an adult nuclear energy professional in 1951, more than 60 years ago.
https://atomicinsights.com/galen-winsor-asks-who-owns-the-plutonium-how-much-is-it-worth/
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In the 25 years since 1987 there has been no case of cancer due to radiation among those contaminated – none at all.
This observation is compared with measurements from Fukushima and elsewhere .

As shown in the third column the lowest measured internal radioactivity for any casualty at Goiania was far
more than 1000 times greater than the largest internal radioactivity measurement for any resident in a large survey of those affected in Japan [9].
For children this ratio was even larger. At Goiania one woman, already four months pregnant, got a significant dose and gave birth normally;
and another who had received one of the highest internal doses gave birth to a healthy child four years on.
https://atomicinsights.com/galen-winsor-asks-who-owns-the-plutonium-how-much-is-it-worth/

Galen Winsor  died in age of  of 84.


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Re the sun, the sun can't radiate heat in a vacuum no matter what anyone says!
Again you are in your own fantasy world my friend.
Tell me where is Godzilla my friend..
Sun emits photons, exactly the same way as your candle does.
Photon does not have mass but it has energy.
Photon energy is solely a function of the photon's wavelength
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two photons of light with the same color and therefore, same frequency, will have the same photon energy, even if one was emitted from a wax candle and the other from the Sun.
Photons can not see each other, nor interact with other photons , summarize multiply..For all practical purposes, visible light photons do not collide
https://www.quora.com/Do-photons-interact-with-other-photons

In space we do not know how much energy  is passing per unit of space( cubic)
We may predict in form of statistical row of figures only for that specific point in space.
Photon can only interact with itself and matter.
Energy of that photon is converted to heat.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_energy
However photon of RF can resonate with its wavelength  corresponding conductor

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Solar energy, however, can travel from the sun to the Earth without the need for a physical substance to transmit the energy.
This feature of electromagnetic energy makes it possible for the Earth to receive solar energy, including heat.
https://sciencing.com/earth-receive-heat-sun-4566644.html
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Can heat travel through a vacuum?When heat travels by radiation through a vacuum, it is carried by subatomic particles moving in the form of electromagnetic waves.
When an electromagnetic wave hits an object or substance, it transfers energy to its molecules.
https://www.reference.com/science/heat-travel-4cd3f1d53f128f83
How can there be heat in a vacuum? conduction and convection cannot take place as there is no continuous medium.
Radiation can still take place

But  lets take box with "perfect" vacuum in it  that is somewhere in the deep vacuum space.
The box dimension is  1mile by 1 mile by 1 mile
Will temperature  in the box differ from temperature  outside the box?
Will temperature  in the box get equal in every cubic cm of it.?
here is some of the answer to it the rest you figure out.


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we said a vacuum is a region of space with nothing in it, and that means those photons have to go.
Cooling the walls down to as close to absolute zero as you can get
(and the limit here is that photons of energies that would be radiated
by a wall of a cold temperature would have wavelengths longer than the size of the can -
- that'll let you freeze out all of the photons)

will give you a vacuum. You have to also shield it from outside sources of energy.
There's little you can do about the neutrinos and dark matter -- they penetrate ordinary matter,
but also don't really interact with it so to a good approximation you can neglect them.
 
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1046

It is unfortunate but  my last set o question will likely remind unanswered.
There would be less than few of you most likely ZERO  who will analyze it.


Wesley

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« Reply #1060 on: November 03, 2018, 02:57:41 AM »
  Radiation can still take place?  Yes, but, there is nothing "moving" from point A to point B, such as in the "speed of light".  Light "moves" by the polarization of photons, yet nothing is actually moving. Photons will polarize toward a light source, thus creating light. But, only if there is an atmosphere supporting photons. The speed of light is the rate which this photonic polarization process takes place, with no movement, at all.
   I know that most will not even think twice about this,  that's fine. I know some will get it.
   Sunlight does not "come" from the Sun to the Earth. There is no light and no heat in DEEP Space, like between the Sun and our planet. But, somewhat similar to Radio Waves, which don't actually "travel", either. Yet, there is light, heat, and radio waves here. So...  Look outside the box.

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« Reply #1061 on: November 03, 2018, 03:13:47 AM »
  Radiation can still take place?  Yes, but, there is nothing "moving" from point A to point B, such as in the "speed of light".  Light "moves" by the polarization of photons, yet nothing is actually moving. Photons will polarize toward a light source, thus creating light. But, only if there is an atmosphere supporting photons. The speed of light is the rate which this photonic polarization process takes place, with no movement, at all.
   I know that most will not even think twice about this,  that's fine. I know some will get it.
   Sunlight does not "come" from the Sun to the Earth. There is no light and no heat in DEEP Space, like between the Sun and our planet. But, somewhat similar to Radio Waves, which don't actually "travel", either. Yet, there is light, heat, and radio waves here. So...  Look outside the box.
I have made few corrections to my previous post.
to make it easier to understand
Please read it again and try to respond to  the bottom questions in grey color.
It may help you to understand it
Please read my comment about nature of the photon with new links attached.
Thank you for your response
Wesley


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« Reply #1062 on: November 03, 2018, 04:11:55 AM »
   Concerning the box? A riddle, perhaps...
   My reply is that it would be so cold inside as outside the box.
No solar heating in Deep Space. So, most of the deep space crafts built up to now are nuclear powered, not solar powered, even though some may show solar panels.  There is no light in deep space. 
  My point is that the creation of light on our planet, is not something that is "coming" from the Sun, as we are still being told.
  So, what is this so called "Sunlight", and how do we create or manufacture it,  for free?  Without needing to burn things up...
   
   There is no smoke traces inside the Great Pyramid, nor in any of the underground tunnels and chambers.  "Got it"?   
Yet, there are signs of glassified stone temples, possibly from previous nuclear explosions, or wars, many thousands of years ago. 
    I hope that it helps you to understand where I'm coming from.  However, I'm not trying to convince, anyone, just trying to relay a message, to look outside the box, as well.
   

 

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« Reply #1063 on: November 03, 2018, 10:58:16 AM »
   Concerning the box? A riddle, perhaps...
   My reply is that it would be so cold inside as outside the box.
No solar heating in Deep Space. So, most of the deep space crafts built up to now are nuclear powered, not solar powered, even though some may show solar panels.  There is no light in deep space. 
  My point is that the creation of light on our planet, is not something that is "coming" from the Sun, as we are still being told.
  So, what is this so called "Sunlight", and how do we create or manufacture it,  for free?  Without needing to burn things up...
   
   There is no smoke traces inside the Great Pyramid, nor in any of the underground tunnels and chambers.  "Got it"?   
Yet, there are signs of glassified stone temples, possibly from previous nuclear explosions, or wars, many thousands of years ago. 
    I hope that it helps you to understand where I'm coming from.  However, I'm not trying to convince, anyone, just trying to relay a message, to look outside the box, as well.
   

 
Hello there Nick yes i hear what you're saying only to well what NASA has told us quote no light till it hits our atmosphere but
the moon doesn't have one so how did Neil or was it Buzz kill  the camera by pointing it at the sun and why wasn't the moon 'pitch black?

I can\t truly say as i have never been off planet yet but in saying that light is a wavelength isn't that like a radio wave?
A photon according to Science programmes on TV travels through space but on piggyback.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNntDhr2n4g

look at 36;24 how can you have an electromagnetic wave in nothing?

You might also be interested in capturing transferring and releasing energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pKapNKJsU8

PS don't trust NASA they are like atoms they make up EVERYTHING  ;D

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« Reply #1064 on: November 03, 2018, 12:41:14 PM »
"the creation of light on our planet, is not something that is "coming" from the Sun, as we are still being told"
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"The Sun is NOT like a nuclear reactor"
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"Photons will polarize toward a light source, thus creating light"
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"the sun can't radiate heat in a vacuum"
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"the East coast of America is the most haunted place on the planet"
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I am very impressed by the density of nonsense and misinformation per unit of line length in this thread.
The photon is the quantum of electromagnetic energy that is exchanged between matter and the electromagnetic field. Sunlight is the electromagnetic field indirectly produced by the sun's nuclear fusion reactions.
This is easily verifiable by observations, measurements and all kinds of experiments made since the end of the 19th century. That is why scientists produce today countless useful and real products. The current technology is the proof of the veracity of their knowledge while the pretentious uneducated people who deny it by the Dunning-Kruger effect have never produced anything but pathetic blah, blah, blah. Otherwise, ignorants and followers of conspiracy theories, where can we find the real products of your great thoughts?
Sorry for my reaction, it's only my fault, it's due to a severe, irresistible and now irremediable allergy to stupidities, and even more, to the vain and conceited spreading of these stupidities.  :'(
Well when you scatter one's pearls of wisdom in front of swine one can occasionally expect them to be downtrodden into swill  ;D

 

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