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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 970214 times)

Offline adrouk

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3045 on: September 19, 2023, 03:56:14 PM »
in the few words - all of my writing  :
There  is a special category of majority not even reading what I write if they
do not see easy for their brains form of revelation.
Opportunism regardless of their level to act can be supported by money,- but  only few can afford it.
Wesley

I’m asking you again: why do I need A to B wireless power transfer if (hypothetical) i have a mean to produce useable power harvesting FE from Schumann wave guide ? And why in all examples you presume best places in or near former soviet union ?  ???

Offline stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3046 on: September 19, 2023, 04:15:13 PM »
I’m asking you again: why do I need A to B wireless power transfer if (hypothetical)
i have a mean to produce useable power harvesting FE from Schumann wave guide ?
You do not. Ukrainians may do, especially if the form of  high energy impulse energy transfer from A to B. into a resonating load.
Will they..  is up to them.
Word "hypothetical" if not supported may turn into unrelated.
And why in all examples you presume best places in or near former soviet union ?  ???
On the one hand it is form of activation of an attention, directed to people from that region having
the best  and most common conditions to satisfy  flat 2D Interface  requirement, but testing can be done everywhere.
It is also me pointing at such requirement. Actually the  highly condensed  salt water with quiet surface  is ideal for it.
At best 1km long of it is a dream capable of incredibly fast collection  of  needed experience.
In USA we have The Great Salt Lake,  in Salt Lake City. UT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Salt_Lake
If it was entirely up to me I could make a presentation there .
Wesley
« Last Edit: September 19, 2023, 09:17:32 PM by stivep »

Offline adrouk

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3047 on: September 19, 2023, 05:27:15 PM »
Still avoiding the answer … while keep playing the same dissonant crap. So, why do you need to A to B wireless power transfer if you have a mean to produce useable power harvesting FE from Schumann wave guide ?
Off topic ! And a citizenship from USA isnt something that i may find useful … just look what they did to Tesla, S Meyer, J Newman, DeGeus, Diesel and may other. They need inventors and their invention just for a precise purpose, otherwise they will transform any dream into a nightmare. That outspoken freedom is valid only if you don't interfere with bigoilco interests and I can add lately pharma-food.
As an advise: do not assume you may know what I need or not, as i may make some asumptions about you as well and you may not enjoy
Just simple answer please related to your invention and dr Corum invention that you try to promote in such a maner.
Moderator note; No need to quote entire text if your comment is directly under  comment you  relating to.  It takes a lot of place here.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2023, 08:51:23 PM by stivep »

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3048 on: September 19, 2023, 05:45:41 PM »
So, why do you need to A to B wireless power transfer if you have a mean to produce useable power harvesting FE from Schumann wave guide ?
Just simple answer please related to your invention and dr Corum invention that you try to promote in such a maner.
I have no need nor have desire to  use Dr Corum  A to B energy transfer . It is his patent  nor mine.
I personally have no need nor have desire to  use energy transfer from  Schumann waveguide.
All I'm interested with is  fun of testing the existing and  finding  new solution.= education.
Temptation however is natural to  human being including me.
Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3049 on: September 19, 2023, 06:06:57 PM »
Energy transfer ? In this period Tesla magnifying transmitter was not operational, right ? https://www.facebook.com/tartariamudfloodpage/photos/a.2525108324174540/3031761560175878/?type=3

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3050 on: September 19, 2023, 06:13:06 PM »
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers.org/?a=d&d=MDP19210811-01.2.28&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7ctxCO%7ctxTA--------0------


It appears on the order of the wireless telephone.... but power is taken from air, hmm....Could it be it create a kind of sink for energy like heat pump is doing for heat ?

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3051 on: September 19, 2023, 06:36:15 PM »

 Actually the  highly condensed  salt water with quiet surface  is ideal for it.
In this case, the Dead Sea in Israel might be even better ?
I would go there to build an installation...

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3052 on: September 19, 2023, 08:17:11 PM »
dear adrouk you have rights to your opinion  however  insinuation  is not rewarding nor educating.
Look at your previous comments https://overunity.com/profile/adrouk.79466/area/showposts/
You are very vocal in promoting criticism in its populous form,  but  not in my opinion technical
skillful contribution or criticism based on physics facts.- to this forum.
You are very welcome to provide your opinion  and critical view  examining , questioning or  challenging
physical phenomena of Dr James Corum  energy transfer or my  own contribution  supported by scientific literature.
I will take my chance to stand for that kind of polemic and  moreover I'll be happy to  agree  with you if I was wrong in explanation.
-Yes I will  be thankful for it.

Wesley

Offline Sergh

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3053 on: September 20, 2023, 03:09:20 PM »
"Having examined for a long time the possibilities of the development I refer to, namely, that of the operation of engines on any point of the earth by the energy of the medium, I find that even under the theoretically best conditions such a method of obtaining power can not equal in economy, simplicity and many other features the present method, involving a conversion fo the mechanical energy of running water into electrical energy and the transmission of the latter in the form of currents of very high tension to great distances. "
Tesla's articles must be read in their entirety to understand what they are talking about.In the same section of the article about power generation at Niagara Falls:

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On Electricity

The Address On the Occasion of the Commemoration of the Introduction of Niagara Falls Power In Buffalo At the Ellicot Club, January 12, 1897
Electrical Review, January 27, 1897
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We have to evolve means for obtaining energy from stores which are forever inexhaustible, to perfect methods which do not imply consumption and waste of any material whatever. Upon this great possibility, which I have long ago recognized, upon this great problem, the practical solution of which means so much for humanity, I have myself concentrated my efforts since a number of years, and a few happy ideas which came to me have inspired me to attempt the most difficult, and given me strength and courage in adversity. Nearly six years ago my confidence had become strong enough to prompt me to an expression of hope in the ultimate solution of this all dominating problem. I have made progress since, and have passed the stage of mere conviction such as is derived from a diligent study of known facts, conclusions and calculations. I now feel sure that the realization of that idea is not far off.

This means that at that time Tesla did not yet have this solution.
He wanted it, but it didn't exist then.

https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/lectures-of-nikola-tesla/on-electricity-commemoration-of-the-introduction-of-niagara-falls-power-in-buffalo-new-york-at-the-ellicott-club-electrical-review-january-27-1897/

Tesla has many articles that are mainly of philosophical significance and from a practical point of view completely useless. For example, this great article:

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The Problem of Increasing Human Energy

The Century Magazine, June, 1900

Program for the improvement of civilization for the next 100 years.
A lot of things are listed, but this does not mean that everything listed has already been implemented.
https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy-with-special-reference-to-the-harnessing-of-the-sun-s-energy-by-nikola-tesla-century-illustrated-magazine-june-1900/

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3054 on: September 20, 2023, 09:37:34 PM »
Thank you Serch. I didn't read entire text yet but here is a comment  of Tesla
describing  energy conversion of lightning.
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Tesla: THE THREE WAYS OF INCREASING HUMAN ENERGY
FIG. 1. BURNING THE NITROGEN OF THE ATMOSPHERE.
Note to Fig. 1.—This result is produced by the discharge of an electrical oscillator giving twelve million volts.
The electrical pressure, alternating one hundred thousand times per second, excites the normally inert
nitrogen, causing it to combine with the oxygen.
The flame-like discharge shown in the photograph measures sixty-five feet across.
I do thank you  for the link.
https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy-

This glorified  Tesla  had little  knowledge about lightning and  chemical reaction of components of  atmosphere.
His observation led to many mistakes  not supported proven and explained. Known to us modern science was not there yet.
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burning, exploding, or decomposing nitrogen compounds to form nitrogen gas releases large amounts of often useful energy
Nitrogen is not flammable and not explosive 78% of atmosphere But.. can "become"/assist the quite "explosive" and "burning", under
very special conditions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen

Tesla's intuition  was genial :
Thunder Storms : 
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Tesla:
FIG. 1. BURNING THE NITROGEN OF THE ATMOSPHERE.
Note to Fig. 1.—This result is produced by the discharge of an electrical oscillator giving twelve million volts.
The electrical pressure, alternating one hundred thousand times per second, excites the
normally inert nitrogen, causing it to combine with the oxygen. The flame-like discharge shown in the photograph measures sixty-five feet across.
science based explanation:
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Under very special conditions, nitrogen can be consumed as if it was supporting the
combustion of other substances.For instance, it can combine with certain unusually reactive metals
not ordinarily found in nature in elemental form, such as magnesium.
-it isn't nitrogen that burns, but magnesium. Nitrogen supports the combustion.
Magnesium isn't found in nature because it much more readily reacts with oxygen.
Thunder Storms
https://sciencing.com/nitrogen-combustible-5397514.html

One of the special circumstances in which nitrogen can be combusted occurs during a thunderstorm.
Lightning causes some nitrogen to react with oxygen to form nitric oxide
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Tesla:
discharge escaping on the top of the ball) one hundred and fifty thousand times per second
he was using 150kHz   
In conjunction with phenomena   named by Tesla Rotating brush:
here: https://youtu.be/GeF2BB8gtbI?t=251
experiment was repeated by known from many false explanations author "appearing" close to the crew of Eric Dollard.
-e.g. he claims existence of longitudinal electromagnetic wave
more educated explanation is here:
https://youtu.be/GbMAvn7nRWo?t=62
Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3055 on: September 21, 2023, 12:29:09 AM »
Less related but unique in  its value:
teslaresearch increasing-human-energy-with-special-reference-to-the-harnessing-of-the-sun-s-energy-magazine-june-1900/

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Tesla: circuit energized by the oscillator from the distance .
prediction of discovery of remote control.
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Tesla: an electrical wave is reflected, and the same evidence which is afforded by an echo
prediction of discovery of radar.
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Tesla: we may determine the relative position or course of a moving object, such as a vessel at sea, the distance traversed by the same, or its speed;
prediction of discovery of geolocation, triangulation- positioning
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// Tesla: use the earth as a conductor, // the earth may be looked upon as an immense
reservoir of electricity, which, I thought, could be disturbed effectively by a properly designed electrical machine.//
The progress // was  very slow//  I finally succeeded in perfecting a novel kind of transformer
//not only to transmit amounts of electrical energy for operating delicate electrical devices,//
The result obtained was all the more remarkable as the top end of the coil was not connected
to a wire or plate for magnifying the effect.
Discovery of Tesla coil
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1891 //  Tesla: my apparatus was barely capable of lighting one lamp (which result was considered wonderful), \
I state that I have now no difficulty in lighting in this manner four or five hundred lamps, and could light many more.
In fact, there is no limit to the amount of energy which may in this way be supplied to operate any kind of electrical device.
- Tesla's misassumption , -however  leading to our Energy transfer. 
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Tesla: Professor Dewar's beautiful experiments with liquid air, which show that germs of organic life are not destroyed by
cold, no matter how intense; consequently they may be transmitted through the interstellar space
Based on  existent science  - Tesla predicting that life could come from   space  into Earth  e.g germs, microbes -frozen in ice from space
some scientific  literature in this area: https://www.livescience.com/61515-astrovirology-viruses-at-large.html
Panspermia#:~:text=Some%20microbes%interplanetary
Mentioned  by Tesla researcher : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dewar
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rhythm? All life-manifestation, \\ is only a movement, to which the same general laws of movement which govern throughout the physical universe must be applicable.
Tesla was raised as an Orthodox Christian. Later in his life, he did not consider himself to be a "believer in the orthodox sense" and opposed religious fanaticism.
Tesla - Atheist
./Nikola_Tesla My respect.


My own prediction/ expectations:

Not far from today country leaded by officially recognized Far Eastern European terrorists, will collapse again
disintegrating into much smaller pieces than in 1990.
Civilized world including Americans will no longer fear to provide scientific tests in their perfect salt water areas there, 
I'm interested  in area of
fourth-largest lake in the world Aral Sea .
This area  survived naturally hundreds of millions of years only
to be totally destroyed by these particular
savages between 1960 and 2007=47 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

opinion expressed is my own.
Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3056 on: September 21, 2023, 10:55:38 AM »
especially if the form of  high energy impulse energy transfer from A to B. into a resonating load.
What are you mean, is a resonating load ? How should it look like ?

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« Reply #3057 on: September 21, 2023, 12:39:16 PM »
Antenna acts  as a resonating load, to the signal source using  properly matched transmission line .
The same applies to any configuration containing  any load and any signal source with respect to medium or means carrying out
the signal.
Little mix-up:
-Newton's First Law of Motion states that an object in motion tends to stay in motion unless an external force acts upon it.
-Photon energy is the energy carried by a single photon. The amount of energy is directly proportional to the photon's electromagnetic frequency
 The higher is the frequency the more energy is there (- more energetic is photon..)
 Practically we do not care about it till frequency is lower than harmful to us ultraviolet.
-Photon cannot lose all of its energy till it does.
 And it does  due to e.g. universe expansion or  interaction with matter e.g. load.
-Resonating load  allows us to make energy of photon benefiting our application.

Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3058 on: September 21, 2023, 01:12:56 PM »
I mean in case use it as weapon. What and where there must blow up?

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3059 on: September 21, 2023, 05:29:50 PM »
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