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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 970228 times)

Offline gyulasun

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3030 on: September 17, 2023, 12:47:09 AM »

And by the way, can the respected public tell me if the electronic archive of the once famous magazine “Electronics” has been preserved somewhere?
Hi kolbacict,
See most of the Electronics magazines in pdf file format here:  https://worldradiohistory.com/Electronics%20_Master_Page.htm   
Probably this is what you are looking for?   
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3031 on: September 17, 2023, 08:28:48 AM »
Yes. thanks everyone. :)
Here some more. I have several copies, including this one.
One of my favorite readings was as a child.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3032 on: September 17, 2023, 10:32:13 AM »
Yes. thanks everyone. :)
Here some more. I have several copies, including this one.
One of my favorite readings was as a child.
Yes very amusing, why is it upside sown, and can you translate it to English
and who is stivup, he keeps suggesting i'm a Ruskin spy, whats his problem ?


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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3033 on: September 17, 2023, 01:57:10 PM »
Yes very amusing, why is it upside sown, and can you translate it to English
and who is stivup, he keeps suggesting i'm a Ruskin spy, whats his problem ?
Just it was so scanned. And it was boring to turn over the page in editor.
https://worldradiohistory.com/Electronics%20_Master_Page.htm
sorry for offtop, but i loaded number 14 1977 year. And there is my natural exemplar.
It's turn out that different magazines?

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3035 on: September 18, 2023, 09:58:56 AM »
But what do these old magazines have to do with Kapanadze’s generator?


I was thinking that when I shall come to live in edge of any ocean. And near will be Loran.C ,transmitting almost half a megawatt  into Shuman' waveguide above the ocean surface. And all I have to do is connect at the right Brewster angle there, and there will be free electricity on my ranch. ;) :)

з.ы.
I apologize, I got confused in the numbering of the magazines. The same one.
But design of the magazine however changed.
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3036 on: September 18, 2023, 12:21:26 PM »
I was thinking that when I shall come to live in edge of any ocean. And near will be Loran.C ,transmitting almost half a megawatt  into Shuman' waveguide above the ocean surface. And all I have to do is connect at the right Brewster angle there, and there will be free electricity on my ranch. ;) :)
-90 dBm = nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrGse7cNi08

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3037 on: September 18, 2023, 05:16:10 PM »
But what do these old magazines have to do with Kapanadze’s generator?
Thank you Sergh  good point at the right time. :)
 https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582279/#msg582279

Fear based behavior :
Неосвічена в цій конкретній галузі, особа, яка приймає рішення, повідомлена про технології,
       які можуть бути реальною, раптом  стикається з тестуванням, проведеним українцями та підтриманим на національному рівні

What if it works..?
  What if all these scientists  including Dr. Corum were right?
      А раптом українці на рівні уряду вирішать протестувати його саме в цей час.
          Що робити, ? 
              What if described by Wesley device works, І він вирішує допомогти їм??

                    What if  Ukrainians decide to approach Dr. James Corum asking him directly for help,
                          as he holds 
ownership of all  the patents-they may want to buy immediately .
  ??
                              What if they give immediate work to the best scientists they can find in the world  to do that quickly enough?

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They  understood the message many of you didn't:
Що, якщо імпульс високої енергії можна перенести з точки А в точку Б, де точка Б є резонуючою структурою на колесах
або на солоній воді моря або в їх басейнах?

But what do these old magazines have to do with Kapanadze’s generator?
-all of this circus  is for one reason :
    Kremlin wants to "flip to the next page"  any information discomforting them in every  forum,
        Its  operatives ( or the innocent but, pushed to act ) tries  to derail the discussed subject,
           or  cover the "unwanted" information with  trash.
              -it is  an opportunity for us  to see how many of them are  there
                   -exposing their true face and role here.
                       Surprisingly some of them are quite valuable, long time members.
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_pieces_of_silver



Wesley
advised by the opinion of professional highly educated in art of analysis of human behavior.
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3038 on: September 18, 2023, 06:12:18 PM »
This is what I'm  talking about.
Salt water of the Black Sea is perfect for much much much larger  forced to be in resonance loads.

https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0?t=87
Wesley
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3039 on: September 18, 2023, 08:58:51 PM »
Transcript from the video talking about Colorado Springs experiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i67E48OV0&t=87s
1:24    "electrically" set up a field of  light bulbs not connected to anything, just stuck in the ground and
           these lights actually lit  in the darkness.
1:37    across  pretty large area and horses started to "skip about" because
           the horses horseshoes were actually starting to react with the ground
           - sorry well it was not entirely safe so
2:21     In Colorado Springs  he had unfortunately blew up the power station at least once

Note: The video was made by historian not by physicists so he didn't manifest  the precise formulation  and understanding of the processes,
            but for us important are the historical facts

Wesley
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3040 on: September 19, 2023, 09:33:31 AM »
https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0?t=87
Wesley
The image with many glowing light bulbs on a field from this message is from THE PRESTIGE (2006) Sci-fi movie:https://shots.filmschoolrejects.com/the-prestige-2006/

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The Prestige is a 2006 psychological thriller film directed by Christopher Nolan, written by Nolan and his brother Jonathan and based on the 1995 novel by Christopher Priest. It stars Hugh Jackman as Robert Angier and Christian Bale as Alfred Borden, rival stage magicians in Victorian London who feud over a perfect teleportation trick.
This sci-fi film is not related to the real Nikola Tesla.

Let's go back to the real world. What has Tesla done in the field of wireless power transmission?
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Tesla was focused in his research for the practical development of a system for wireless transmission of power and a utilization system. Tesla said, in "On electricity", Electrical Review (Jan. 27, 1897):

    "In fact, progress in this field has given me fresh hope that I shall see the fulfillment of one of my fondest dreams; namely, the transmission of power from station to station without the employment of any connecting wires."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Notes,_1899%E2%80%931900
At these times, Nikola Tesla declares absolutely nothing about production of free energy or overunity.
Tesla wrote about free energy 30 years later, in 1930 - 1934. This is  about how he harnessed cosmic rays.

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Three ordinary incandescent lamps lighted to full candle-power by currents induced in a local loop consisting of a single wire forming a square of fifty feet each side, which includes the lamps, and which is at a distance of one hundred feet from the primary circuit energized by the oscillator. The loop likewise includes an electrical condenser, and is exactly attuned to the vibrations of the oscillator, which is worked at less than five percent of its total capacity.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Experiment_in_wireless_power_transmission_by_Nikola_Tesla_at_his_laboratory_in_Colorado_Springs_in_1899.png

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Tesla eventually sold his rights to his alternating current patents to George Westinghouse for $1,000,000.
After paying off his investors, Tesla spent his remaining funds on his other inventions and culminated his efforts in a major breakthrough in 1899 at Colorado Springs by transmitting 100 million volts of high-frequency Wireless Electricity through a coils magnetic field, over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor in order to power wireless devices! His design was to power devices, remotely. With this souped up version of his Tesla coil, Tesla claimed that only 5% of the transmitted energy was lost in the process.

https://www.electricityforum.com/wireless-electricity

No information about the amperage and power of the light bulbs and the motor.

But this is THE PROBLEM:

"over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor"
Electric motors do not operate on electric current with a frequency of several kilohertz or higher. This frequency is too high for mechanical movements.
50 - 60 - 400 - 1000 Hz maximum (I think)
How did Tesla's motor work if rectifiers for frequencies of several kilohertz did not yet exist?
(I have some thoughts about this, but I will write later, there is a lot to prepare. Besides, I'm not entirely sure about some other aspects...)


I worked at a distance of 5 kilometers from such a powerful transmitter when it was still functioning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYjmuwR1cPc


Yes, incandescent light bulbs sometimes glowed spontaneously. But at 0.01 of full power. The fluorescent lamps also glowed, but not at full power, of course.
Of course, there is no talk of any high efficiency. At a greater distance, nothing like this happened.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3041 on: September 19, 2023, 12:00:05 PM »

2:21     In Colorado Springs  he had unfortunately blew up the power station at least once
Wesley
I don't understand what's surprising or unusual here.
In those days, electricians still had no idea that it was dangerous to fill the electrical network with high-voltage, high-frequency pulses.
If you have experimented with high voltage, you have probably encountered damage to the insulation in the power supply transformer. Same problem.
In modern switching power supplies, filters are installed everywhere at the power voltage input.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3042 on: September 19, 2023, 12:35:54 PM »
The image with many glowing light bulbs on a field  is from THE PRESTIGE (2006) Sci-fi movie:
https://shots.filmschoolrejects.com/the-prestige-2006/
Yes
What has Tesla done in the field of wireless power transmission?
I do not care to much. I'm not glorifying Tesla.
Only his contribution in the field of my interest matters to me here and now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Notes,_1899%E2%80%931900
At these times, Nikola Tesla declares absolutely nothing about production of free energy or overunity.
Tesla wrote about free energy 30 years later, in 1930 - 1934.
True and I agree as  nonsense can't exist.
Explanation:
-Electrical Energy For Free  uses using acronym "Free Energy."
Niagara falls  is the example of Energy for Free using Tesla concept. (But someone sales it  making money on it.)
So for you fellows it is not for free any longer.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Experiment_in_wireless_power_transmission_by_Nikola_Tesla_at_his_laboratory_in_Colorado_Springs_in_1899.png
https://www.electricityforum.com/wireless-electricity
No information about the amperage and power of the light bulbs and the motor.
But this is THE PROBLEM:
"over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor"
Electric motors do not operate on electric current with a frequency of several kilohertz or higher. This frequency is too high for mechanical movements.
50 - 60 - 400 - 1000 Hz maximum (I think)
How did Tesla's motor work if rectifiers for frequencies of several kilohertz did not yet exist?
Yes, incandescent light bulbs sometimes glowed spontaneously. But at 0.01 of full power. The fluorescent lamps also glowed, but not at full power, of course.
Of course, there is no talk of any high efficiency. At a greater distance, nothing like this happened.
-Not important how and not important  how much or how many light bulbs - from the Interface stand point.
1 microW at the distance  of Far Field  that  doesn't propagate in that Far Field , assigned to  phenomena
 present in the Interface is enough to  make revolution in the world.

Foolish crowd wants to see a circus with many lightbulbs.

Summary:
Excellent  collection of material  and  analysis from you Sergh.
You are manifesting  level I can respect.
Your skepticism/criticism and  the  level of it is very much  appreciated and important.
Two of my friends in science   Dr.  Roy and Dr. Hans where  exactly the same  till Hans decided to test
made by me device. To his and mine surprise he made it work, possibly because of his skeptical approach.

Resulting outcome from above event:
I was making    several videos  per year .
Since that very  time for the next 3+ years till today I didn't make even one single video.
Any audience  hunger for sensation makes documentary or movie popular and I'm not
interested in popularity at all.
Hope:
Videos are the form of hope for  other people cooperation and voluntary contribution 
made mostly by these not yet successful in it.
Another group is these who  state they have what you do not. -feeding their own need for fame, respect, 
or  teasing potential investors with their  "not yet proven."
- If it is  new than why  it  is not   patent pending?
Reasoning expects  proper explanation convincing  audience or not.

I blabbed to much about  subject matter  making hard enough for  my friend to patent 
his achievement.   Costa Rica experimenting changed everything.
Today all patents belongs to Dr Corum who is over 80 now.
Tesla and Marconi were pioneers in the time of still developing electromagnetism and EM wave.
None of them was successful  in electrical  energy transfer from A to B but they provided  the
mile stones for today's  technology.
Reality :
Diversity represents individualism - composed of distinct or unlike elements or qualities.
Progress imparts a high surface gloss to finished articles, publications, single experiments
in the interest of diversified individual and  individualism collects  human elements together
likely  or mostly in distress.
There is no unity. Diamond has a value when found,  more value when polished, and when in hands
a particular  buyer mostly pleasing his  female.
That is why we have Patent Office protecting  Intellectual  Findings of individuals.
All the  rest is just a dream of these who would like
to have it for free.. Nothing wrong with it, but majority  of the spectators do not want to even try
to replicate it , contribute to it, share it, make it better.
They do not want to learn!!!!
So you Sergh a unique example of a very positive
and respected by me approach analyzing all the variables.
That is  the real value  of constructive skepticism too moving world to the  future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism
Wesley
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3043 on: September 19, 2023, 02:27:27 PM »
in the few words - all of my writing  :
There  is a special category of majority not even reading what I write if they
do not see easy for their brains form of revelation.
Opportunism regardless of their level to act can be supported by money,- but  only few can afford it.
Wesley

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« Reply #3044 on: September 19, 2023, 03:42:07 PM »
"Having examined for a long time the possibilities of the development I refer to, namely, that of the operation of engines on any point of the earth by the energy of the medium, I find that even under the theoretically best conditions such a method of obtaining power can not equal in economy, simplicity and many other features the present method, involving a conversion fo the mechanical energy of running water into electrical energy and the transmission of the latter in the form of currents of very high tension to great distances. "[/font][/size]

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