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Offline forest

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2820 on: May 23, 2023, 05:52:31 PM »
Good luck Wesley.




Prawda jest taka że nic z tego forum nie wynika, z czego wnioskuję że rozwiązanie jest zbyt proste a jednocześnie zbyt unikalne aby go przypadkiem odkryć. To samo dotyczy generatorów Figuera, więcej - myślę że urządzenia Kapanadze bazują na tym samym koncepcie - jakimś cudem generują olbrzymie pole magnetyczne i efekt generatora a nie transformatora - tj linie tego pola są o stałym natężeniu ale wirują w przestrzeni. Wniosek - szukamy jednego efektu i różnych metod jego wykorzystania.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2821 on: May 24, 2023, 01:00:51 AM »
It is a time to say Good by.
I do appreciate  you as the audience and your contribution during my  several years of activity in this forum .
It was a good time for me, - hundreds of hours dedicated to  community.
Kapanadze- Georgia, Lithuania Experiment, Germany, Poland, Czechia, Serbia, Costa Rica, Colorado Springs,  Viziv in Milford Texas, and  Dr Corum.
Many tests, travels, and huge investments in equipment .

I wish everybody  all the best
Thank you to Russian  Kolbacict, Sergh, r2fpl and others,
Thank you to Ukrainians.
Dziekuje Polakom
Thank you to  all  Americans, Europeans and all others.
Thank You Stefan  for your 30 years of dedication.
It is your house and you make rules, we may accept or not.


Wesley
I'm not canceling today, my account yet, and for some time now. We'll see what comes up.

I can't see what all the fuss is about. I think this is a case of "semantic pedantic" here. Someone must be having a bad day.
If you don't agree with Wesley's comments then contradict him: -it is called a discussion.
There are many, many posters that should not be on this site. Wesley is not one of them.

Offline NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2822 on: May 24, 2023, 01:52:51 AM »
   I believe that Wesley's leaving was not a matter of choice. And I agree normally this should not need to happen over a disagreement. Or we would have no freedom of speech. However, this may be something entirely different. As this was Wesley's thread, to do with as he dictates, and to moderate who he wants.
I believe, but,  I could be wrong. 

   NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2823 on: May 24, 2023, 03:02:03 AM »
Wesley lost his moderator status here for insisting that
over unity does not exist.

Everybody who always claims,Overunity is not possible will be banned or moderatedIn this forum now...
So I will now moderate Wesley...and also people, who call other users liars and seem to not knowwhat the difference is between a liar and having a different opinion...

We don't have the time for this, as we are shortly standing before Worldwar 3and the corona vaxxinations are killing so many people...
Regards,  Stefan.

Wesley has posted here since he lost that moderator status.

It is a time to say Good by.
I do appreciate  you as the audience and your contribution during my  several years of activity in this forum .
It was a good time for me, - hundreds of hours dedicated to  community.
Kapanadze- Georgia, Lithuania Experiment, Germany, Poland, Czechia, Serbia, Costa Rica, Colorado Springs,  Viziv in Milford Texas, and  Dr Corum.
Many tests, travels, and huge investments in equipment .

I wish everybody  all the best
Thank you to Russian  Kolbacict, Sergh, r2fpl and others,
Thank you to Ukrainians.
Dziekuje Polakom
Thank you to  all  Americans, Europeans and all others.
Thank You Stefan  for your 30 years of dedication.
It is your house and you make rules, we may accept or not.


Wesley
I'm not canceling today, my account yet, and for some time now. We'll see what comes up.


« Last Edit: May 24, 2023, 11:34:08 PM by hartiberlin »

Offline r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2824 on: May 24, 2023, 09:50:17 AM »
Stefan just wants more work on the forum  :)  -20 post off please  ;D

Offline nix85

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2825 on: May 24, 2023, 11:34:35 AM »
Sorry, but you contaminated this topic with esoteric BS. :(
Is this done on purpose or you are just like that?

Too bad that you think that way, but fact is i did not contaminate the thread with esoteric BS, i shared some advanced FACTS (as you will know in the future). Just the fact light and heat are local atmospheric effects changes EVERYTHING, and that is just one of countless things i shared. Whole new (ancient) physics is coming. You want to understand overunity and at the same time remain within certain limitations / flawed models, it does not work that way. So question is for you, is this done on purpose or you are just like that?

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2826 on: May 24, 2023, 11:45:24 PM »
   Guys:   
  Do you know what "read only" means???... 
   Not to break up all the fun. 
   Well, just keep it up, and you'll find out.   Stefan doesn't need this...nor does anyone else.
   NickZ
 

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2827 on: May 24, 2023, 11:51:40 PM »
Stefan just wants more work on the forum  :)  -20 post off please  ;D

Yes, I have deleted several postings and have set some members on moderated, so I can see, what they postbefore their postings go live to stop the flame wars....
Please come back to a real discussion.
We dont have the time anymore to further foul around.
We are just standing shortly before the 3rd World War and we still dont have a well working overunity device that
is easy to replicate...
Please ALL dont waste our time with fighting over here.
I also dont have the time to moderate it  anymore and I might just put the forum soon on Read Only mode...and have the forum only as an archive...
As I am too ill to handle all this BS anymore...I really must care now about my health and dont have the time anymore for this...
I also rather want to work on my Youtube channel to get it to 100.000 subscribers now, than to care about BSpostings over here now.

Regards, Stefan. ( Admin).

Offline nix85

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2828 on: May 25, 2023, 01:51:26 AM »
It is essential for the reestablishment of True Science (and understanding of overunity) to have proper knowledge/understanding of Earth's etheric vortex which is really its gravity field, or rather, gravity is one of its many effects. It is a polarization of primary energy flows that exist everywhere and are the source and destination of all forces and matter.

As real contactee Elizabeth Klarer says, already quoted here

"Gravity is the push from the hub of the flattened spiral of the cosmic storm that is our galaxy. These waves are oscillating at frequencies thousands of megacycles beyond the visible light spectrum.".

As i also said before the sun is the focal point of primary energy flows. Sun is redistributing them to planets and moons and these primary energy flows are focalizing on planetary neutral centers pressing all matter downward. This is gravity.

Vortex extends in 7 higher (astral) and 7 lower (astral) spheres, each partially interpenetrating the nearby ones (vesica piscis and Jesus' fish).

As Yada Di Shiite says Earth's vortex has existed for 7 billion years, almost 3 billion years before it accumulated crude matter and formed a planet. In other words everything first exists as thought on higher planes and by condensation / accumulation of matter of the lower plane becomes manifested. All manifestation is based on this same principle of clothing thought in substance.

As it says in Oahspe

"6. From the swiftest part of the earth's vortex, its force is toward the earth's centre. And if there were no earth here at present, the vortex would make one presently."

Like i wrote on previous pages, all sources (Oahspe, Kraspedon, Zirbes...) agree this vortex has an edge just beyond the orbit of the Moon, circa 20,000km out. All forces known and unknown on and around Earth, are part of this vortex and all lower ones are resisted/slowed down forms of the higher (faster) forces. I already spoke of cascading of One Force through magnetism > electricity > electromagnetism > sound > matter.

As it is written in A Dweller

"For down from His heights, marking the descent by forcefalls as a river marks declivities fin its bed by cataracts, comes this supreme power; comes far, oh! very far, adown its course to the cascades of magnetism, electricity, light, heat, sound, motion and far off where the bed of this Divine stream becomes nearly level, exhibits those little ripples of material differentiation which thou termest chemical elements, insisting on there being sixty−three, when there is but One."

BTW there is now an audiobook of A Dweller on youtube who wants to listen to it.

As it is also written in A Dweller and same is said by Keely and later confirmed by Hollingshead, positive radiant force coming from the sun manifests gravity, light and heat and reflected, negative levitation, dark and cold. As also described in Theosophy for fundamental 'atoms', male and female Anus, male bringing energy down from higher plane and female returning it, closing a circuit. This is not matter antimatter. Matter side and antimatter side both have their circle of polarity between adjacent planes.

And as it is written in Etidorhpa

"If a series of knife blades on pivot ends be set in a frame, and turned edgewise to a rapid current of water, the swiftly moving stream flows through this sieve of metallic edges about as easily as if there were no obstructions. Slowly turn the blades so as to present their oblique sides to the current, and an immediate pressure is apparent upon the frame that holds them; turn the blades so as to shut up the space, and they will be torn from their sockets, or the entire frame will be shattered into pieces. The ethereal current that generates the magnetic force passes through material bodies with inconceivable rapidity, and the molecules of a few substances only, present to it the least obstruction. Material molecules are edgewise in it, and meet no retardation in the subtle flood. This force is a disturbance of space energy that is rushing into the earth in one form, and out of it in another."

These are not fiction books, these are leaks from occult societies, subtle initiation of humanity into the occult Knowledge. Knowledge that says there is but One Force and One Substance, and force-substance in original form is of so high frequency it is totally beyond man's perception but when resisted/slowed down becomes manifest.

Few pages ago i discussed gravity/vortex and Oahspe with NickZ (btw i honestly appreciate everyone who is able to see through the fog, even if only partially so, and recognize true occult sources information.). I highly recommend Oahspe Cosmogony to everyone.

He claimed there is no gravity and it's the vortex pressing things down. I know exact quote he based his view on and had it for years

"14. Wherein mortals have been taught erroneously in regard to two powers which do not exist, as they have been heretofore set forth: These are the attraction of gravitation in the earth, and a north pole magnetism in the earth."

I said back there, i know Oahspe says there is no gravity or magnetism but only vortexia which is in a sense correct (especially that there is no such thing as gravity attraction for it is a push) for the two are part of vortexia but it is important to realize there are as well two vertical streams.

Oahspe says

"15. The positive force of the vortex is, therefore, from the external toward the internal; and the negative force of the vortex is toward the poles, and in the ascendant toward the pole external from the sun centre."

Tassel gives a similar description, only he call the polarities different, namely

"The negative "B" lines are attracted to the Earth's positive core, but are resisted by the "G" light insulation strata. Having penetrated the negative crust, they are repelled by it and take the line of least resistance, which is out of the North Pole."

"Gravity is not attraction, nor "magnetism". Gravity is "resistance pressure" brought about in all objects, bodies, or substances by the lines of force penetrating 'them toward the center of the Earth."

So they define polarities differently but general consensus can be made that positive force from the Sun is manifesting Earth's gravity (even if the force carrier are negative magnetic lines of force). Both Oashpe and Tassel agree that force that streams into the Earth and manifests gravity exits at the North Pole. Big thing. But they disagree on the details of negative current, while Oahspe saya negative force is emited from the core toward BOTH poles, Tassel says

"The "A" positive lines of force work opposite to the foregoing, and are emitted at the South Pole."

"The "A" positive (male) projective lines of force are trying to reach discharge, or impregnation in the negative (female) crust."

So he is saying that positive (male/electric) lines of force are emitted from the core outward but are resisted by the crust and diverted toward the South Pole. So, again, they agree inward flow (gravity) enters the Earth and exits at the North pole but don't exactly agree about the negative current.

It is always like this, rarely thing align perfectly and one has to carefully correlate all this into as sensible and correct model as possible.

As i wrote before Keely also says etheric envelope acts opposite to macroscopic matter where faster rotation means more centrifugal force, faster etheric cocoon spins more compressed it gets.

Keely also makes it clear there are two vertical forces which he calls celestial propulsive/attractive and terrestrial propulsive/attractive. He is really referring to two vertical streams of primary energy currents, as described before, the positive one coming from the sun is impinging on planetary neutral centers and as it does presses all matter downward. This positive side of primary flows also gets partially resisted by the upper atmosphere and creates light and heat.

And finally, in my opinion most important document given to mankind, paper HARNESSING THE FORCE OF GRAVITY By Richard S. Hollingshead, son of great Edgar Hollingshead, who in few pages summarized it ALL in such clear perfect manner no matter how many hundreds or thousands of times i have read it it is as fresh and new as the first time! This is "IT". I don't know if Hollingshead was a student of Keely, there is no indication that he even knew of him, but he confirms all Keely's work, 369 and that 3 is the lowest positive (gravity), 6 medium negative (antigravity) and 9 the highest (he called Dominant, which is the same as Maxin Light, or the thought force, the primary energy from which all lower forces and matter emerge and disslove back into). Like i wrote before, Hollingshead managed with use of his Odic Ray to permanently change weight of metals, make them permanently warm or cold, disintegrate them without remnants etc.

If one wants to understand overunity and True Science, all this needs to be studied DEEPLY and properly understood.

And to balance this talk of etheric vortex, gravity/antigravity etc, a nice another confirmation of backEMF overunity from Better World Technologies

https://youtu.be/zBrnxadM1v8?t=333

Offline ramset

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2829 on: May 25, 2023, 02:08:42 AM »
IMO
This forum is a meeting place for many open source experimenters
And should be Cherished and respected ( I know many builders who have shared in the open source FE community will never stop trying
For as long as it takes …


Yes we are on borrowed time …
No time to waste …


Tremendous gratitude to our host here ( I know many reading agree)
Regardless the decisions he has to make to keep his health and cover his expenses and livelihood!
Respectfully
Chet K
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Sorry no idea what your saying ?


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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2830 on: May 25, 2023, 03:05:10 AM »
  Ramset:
   Borrowed time?  Time does not really exist, it's a bad man made invention.   
In order to "measure our thing". 
Oh, how esoteric...

   All we really have is the Eternal present Moment. (now).


   Don't you like it when nix starts to spew out the beans?   He had to. He had the dog pack on is ass.   NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2831 on: May 25, 2023, 03:32:51 AM »
   We need to lighten up, life is too short. 

Maybe not knowing is a good thing ramset.   In this case, spilling the beans, means, well, you know...Getting all that book learning out, loud.
   
   NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2832 on: May 25, 2023, 08:59:08 AM »
IMO
This forum is a meeting place for many open source experimenters
And should be Cherished and respected ( I know many builders who have shared in the open source FE community will never stop trying
For as long as it takes …


Yes we are on borrowed time …
No time to waste …


Tremendous gratitude to our host here ( I know many reading agree)
Regardless the decisions he has to make to keep his health and cover his expenses and livelihood!
Respectfully
Chet K
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To Nick comment below
Sorry no idea what your saying ?
Very Very True.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2833 on: May 25, 2023, 09:06:47 AM »
   We need to lighten up, life is too short. 

Maybe not knowing is a good thing ramset.   In this case, spilling the beans, means, well, you know...Getting all that book learning out, loud.
   
   NickZ

Book's be like upside down  :D
Let the bean's spill like hail storm.

The time is passing like sand slipping through our fingers and can not be reversed.
Is it worth?
Kapanadze died, and no one will remember him in few years.
He could change the world, but he choose not to!
And because of that he is nobody, only few of us will remember him.
Nobody! Null.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2834 on: May 25, 2023, 04:24:12 PM »
   Yes, that is a shame about Tariel taking his ideas to heaven. Considering where he lived, there is no free speech, there. And he may have been told to shut up, or else.  He did show us many things, and showed how with hardly any test gear nor any formal schooling on electronic circuits, he managed to do what no one had done before, with several devices.
    I am still looking for the source of that ancient Slavic knowledge, which now nix has also been pointing out. Maybe it's best to pay attention to the message.  Such as, how light is produced, as it does not come from the Sun, nor does heat, as we are told, and we have been diverted from the fact that light is produced locally on this and other planets. On purpose... There is NO Visible light outside the vortex of this planet, nor any other planet. And a rocket sent towards the Sun at midday, will be in total darkness in just a few minutes. And the great pyramid shows no signs of carbon build up. Think about it...
 Pay attention, that is no BS. And nix is the only other person, besides myself, who is relaying that totally unknown fact, these days.
We must undo our programing errors, and distinguish fact from fiction. IF we put a positive outlook on all of this, only a positive outcome can follow.

  The atmospheric bridge called Chinvat is where space ships have to wait, on the outside of the Earth's Vortex, in order to come into our dimension, from other multidimensional places in space. There is no such thing as a material space ship "traveling" through deep space. Like Elon Musk is trying to do to get to Mars, as it's like a big huge stupid bomb, full of fuel. And he will have to redesign it's propulsion systems to be electromagnetic, instead. Which can be fed by the Aether which is found everywhere
   This is the year 2023, of UFO contact. I'm hoping that they will aid us with Free Energy, as well. Which already may be happening. We'll see...
   NickZ
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