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https://www.gurdjieff.org/beelzebub6.htm

Chapter VI
Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson
by G. I. Gurdjieff

Perpetual Motion
 
"WAIT! Wait!" Beelzebub interrupted the captain. "This—what you have just told us—must surely be just that short-lived idea which the strange three-brained beings breeding on the planet Earth called 'perpetual motion' and on account of which at one period a great many of them there went quite, as they themselves say, 'mad', and many even perished entirely.
"It once happened there on that ill-fated planet that somebody in some way or another got into his head the, as they say, 'crazy notion' that he could make a 'mechanism' that would run forever without requiring any material from outside.
"This notion so took everybody's fancy that most of the queer fellows of that peculiar planet began thinking about it and trying to realize this miracle in practice.
"How many of them paid for this short-lived idea with all the material and spiritual welfare which they had previously with great difficulty acquired!
"For one reason or another they were all quite determined to invent what in their opinion was a 'simple matter'.
"External circumstances permitting, many took up the invention of this 'perpetual motion' without any inner data for such work; some from reliance upon their 'knowledge', others upon 'luck', but most of them just from their already complete psychopathy.
"In short, the invention of 'perpetual motion' was, as they say, 'the rage', and every crank felt obliged to be interested in this question.
"I was once in one of the towns there where models of every kind and innumerable 'descriptions' of proposed 'mechanisms' for this 'perpetual motion' were assembled.
"What wasn't there? What 'ingenious' and complicated machines did I not see? In any single one of these mechanisms I saw there, there must have been more ideas and 'wiseacrings' than in all the laws of World-creation and World-existence.
"I noted at the time that in these innumerable models and descriptions of proposed mechanisms, the idea of using what is called the 'force of weight' predominated. And the idea of employing the 'force of weight' they explained thus: a very complicated mechanism was to lift 'some' weight and this latter was then to fall and by its fall set the whole mechanism in motion, which motion would again lift the weight, and so on, and so on.
"The result of it all was, that thousands were shut up in 'lunatic asylums', thousands more, having made this idea their dream, either began to fail altogether to fulfill even those being-duties of theirs which had somehow or other in the course of many years been established there, or to fulfill them in such a way as 'couldn't be worse'.
"I don't know how it would all have ended if some quite demented being there, with one foot already in the grave, such a one as they themselves call an 'old dotard', and who had previously somehow acquired a certain authority, had not proved by 'calculations' known only to himself that it was absolutely impossible to invent 'perpetual motion'.
"Now, after your explanation, I can well understand how the cylinder of the system of Archangel Hariton works. It is the very thing of which these unfortunates there dreamed.
"Indeed, of the 'cylinder' of the system of the Archangel Hariton it can safely be said that, with atmosphere alone given, it will work perpetually without needing the expenditure of any outside materials.
"And since the world without planets and hence without atmospheres cannot exist, then it follows that as long as the world exists and, in consequence, atmospheres, the cylinder-barrels invented by the great Archangel Hariton will always work.
"Now just one question occurs to me—about the material from which this cylinder-barrel is made.
"I wish very much, my dear Captain, that you would roughly tell me what materials it is made of and how long they can last", requested Beelzebub.
To this question of Beelzebub's the captain replied as follows:
"Although the cylinder-barrel does not last forever, it can certainly last a very long time.
"Its chief part is made of 'amber' with 'platinum' hoops, and the interior panels of the walls are made of 'anthracite', 'copper', and 'ivory', and a very strong 'mastic' unaffectable either by (1) 'paischakir' or by (2) 'tainolair' or by (3) 'saliakooriapa'* or even by the radiations of cosmic concentrations.
"But the other parts," the captain continued, "both the exterior 'levers' and the 'cogwheels', must certainly be renewed from time to time, for though they are made of the strongest metal, yet long use will wear them out.
"And as for the body of the ship itself, its long existence can certainly not be guaranteed."
The captain intended to say still more, but at that moment a sound like the vibrations of a long minor chord of a far-off orchestra of wind instruments resounded through he ship.
With an apology the captain rose to leave, explaining as he did so that he must be needed on very important business, since everybody knew that he was with his Right Reverence and would not venture to trouble the ears of his Right Reverence for anything trifling.
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* (1) Cold, (2) heat, and (3) water

Stefan! why did you call this forum "overunity"? Now you're saying you're blocking Wesley just because he says there's no overunity.
You know that word is generic. It doesn't matter unless it wasn't that.

Nie obrażaj się na Stefana bo chyba stracił nadzieje na sens tego forum bo nikt nic nie osiągną po za tworzeniem tysięcy postów.
Cała ta wiedza jest wspaniała ale nic z tego nie wynika na razie. Nawet ruskie na forach stoją w miejscu i przeklepują to samo od 10 lat.
Co jakiś czas pojawia się jeden co to mówi ja mam i robi durniów z innych.  Oni mają coś z "głowami".
psmożliwe że nie chodziło o to słowo. Miło że wspomniałeś o mnie. Dajesz zawsze dużo od siebie, a może i za dużo dlatego źle się stanie jak Stefan tego nie zrozumie.  To forum to my, a nie tylko on choć to on je utrzymuje więc pewnie chce pokazać, że ma kluczyki. Forum elektroda.pl tam dopiero moderatorzy to świry. Każdy to narcyz bez słowa krytyki. I tak ostatecznie wszystko sprowadzi się do 1984.

Hello Wesley!
I appreciate your work.
Don't drop these things.

I see the current situation as a "raider takeover".

Stefan does not respond to my message with a wish to return everything as it was. Does he have control over the site?

I ask the community to support Wesley.

Stefan does not respond to my message with a wish to return everything as it was. Does he have control over the site?

Yes, Stefan is the owner and Admin of this site.

I ask the community to support Wesley.

I agree. 



For the new member Fabon (registered May 14, 2023) :  yes, Wesley got Moderator status from Stefan to handle and stop rude, arrogant, uncivil and injuring posts.  You have to have means to tackle such problems on an open forum.  And Wesley has contributed to a lot of useful and educating topics.  Please try to follow suit.

Gyula

   I do agree that Wesley has been trying very hard for years, to convince us of his conventional ideas, that overunity does not exist.
   I think that what he really means is the there is no more output than input, on any device, IF, there is not an external input source from somewhere.
  And that is correct.    Yet, he also does not believe in Tesla's ideas of harvesting from the "Sea of Energy". Nor about the source of that extra energy, coming from the Aether, as Tesla has mentioned. Which may not set well with the topic of the forum, as he seams to feel that he knows more than Tesla, quoting from his conventional science background. And has also tried to convince us that Kapanadze's lake device video was somehow dependent an input of Zenneck waves, from the other side of the lake, but, showing NO proof thereof.  This went on for some years, and if you don't agree with him, he will just moderate or ban you. As he has done to me, and that is why I don't trust nor post on this thread, any more.
  I do agree with Stefan on this. Even though that may not really be the ONLY reason for Wesley being moderated. That may have opened the door to what has happened, now. But, it's not a done deal...and as stubborn as Wesley is, he will probably be right back, to continue his conventional points of view, showing his house full of electronic stuff that he can't use, and posting unrelated full page essays, about how shitty the Russians are. But he will probably never ever build anything that actually works, or self runs. Which is what we are really here for. And not to be sold on Zenneck waves, which have not been proven to supply any form Free Energy, after several years of talking about it. 
   One mans opinion, and I know there is more to all this, than just that.
     
   NickZ
   PS.  nix85  could be called,  Raider85 instead... funny.... No,  not very funny. As, his gig is up.   It's a better name for him, in any case.  But, it's too bad, cause he is a smart guy.

"raider takeover" funny