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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1146885 times)

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2355 on: April 10, 2023, 11:35:50 AM »
Hopefully when Dr.Steven Greer’s newest Documentary comes out
There will be more explanations?
Here he does interview ( preview) with  Danika Patrick
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg
Respectfully
Chet K
In mentioned by  you YouTube
Dr Steven M. Greer is a medical doctor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer
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"fantasy propaganda"and "a conspiracy  end of quote
April 2020.:
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Scientology-style sham," that it "rather strangely squeezes the last few years of UFO-related news coverage into a misleading frame,
arguing that journalists, pundits and the government are collaborating to build fear in the public that would justify
the establishment of a "one-world government" that could wage an "interplanetary war," and notes that "though
[Greer's] been summoning [UFOs] from across the galaxy for decades, he can never convince an alien ship
to travel an extra couple of miles and hover for a good photograph."[31]
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In  https://youtu.be/0mJawfjDLUg?t=3962
He is pointing at a notion about: Biefeld–Brown effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effectand
Thomas Townsend Brown
was:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown
Few minutes later he talks about Senator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Warner's son and "secret disc" with" antigravity" :)
Here is his son: https://wikitia.com/wiki/John_William_Warner_IV
                        https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/19632900.John_W_Warner_IV
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passion for hidden history, revisionist
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skeptic about historical records
We assume  this guy was not great in physics but  it is good thematically to some wealthy guys trying to make more ..
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I wouldn't try  to create criticism there but  physics stand point is free area for my comments:
He never  went in that interview deep into anything.
I don't think he understand physical mechanisms he is talking about, but he can state that they exist.

I think I  would "nail" the guy   in less than 30 seconds into the quite unpleasant feeling of  a total loser in that discussion.
But that Pretty lady was kind and smiling and understanding .... whatever...

Anti-gravitation doesn't exist .
Electrostatic lifting  phenomena is explained and nothing special  about it.

Entire video  can be commented   also  as a form of typical
screenplay .
So we have need to make some
visual medium, such as film or television.
This type of script focuses on visual elements and often includes instructions about what the audience sees, such as character actions,
locations and camera angles.
But instead we had  YouTube,  1 camera, talking heads, no instructions,- improvisation, using elements like:
Hitler and secret disc, Anti-gravity, government conspiracy,  UFO, wealthy senators son, and need to activate public in fight for truth.
 

It is obvious that film is a product that should sale for money right?
How come nobody read  what  it says in Wikipedia about the artist and  a producer of  that  film.   
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opinion expressed is my own
Wesley
« Last Edit: July 28, 2023, 11:23:45 PM by stivep »

ramset

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2356 on: April 11, 2023, 08:26:07 PM »
“Our” Laws of physics are out the window in these vids ( previously shared above and …)
Here National Geographic society ( quite respected in USA)
From _UFO_visits to US capital in 1952 ( shared already in Dr.Greer vid for 20 or more ? Years
Here National Geographic doc
SECRET PENTAGON PROGRAM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt7Riw9jGlQ
  4 min mark :Again acknowledged US capital July 1952 UFO’s buzzed
US capital ( 2weekends in a row)
 7-8 minute mark “Our” laws of physics ( what is possible here)
Out the window (impossible sightings)
“Invisible” _antigravity_ unknown propulsion…
_In and out_ of reality …
and plasma type (actual light?) craft …
Planes have passed right thru huge UFO’s No adverse effects!
On and on and on ….
At least a 70 year denial from US government and ?
Makes a very bad impression…


Respectfully
Chet



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2357 on: April 12, 2023, 08:15:21 PM »
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“Our” Laws of physics are out the window in these vids ( previously shared above and …)

The ufo phenomena is interesting and I saw one first hand years ago. This led me to do more research and over the years figure out how some of this stuff works. I found the ufo phenomena is well within the laws of physics the laws are just applied in a radically different way.

The problem is most people don't really understand the laws of physics. For example, what is gravity?. Everyone has studied the effects of gravity for hundreds of years but nobody can explain what it is or how it works. It's like saying we understand a car just be observing them from a distance but have never driven one, fixed one or have a clue how they even work. Strange isn't it?, we understand many things just not anything that matters like what the Primary Fields (Electric, Magnetic, Gravic) are and how they work.

I found ufo's are not anti-gravity they are unaffected by gravity. Just as superconductors do not "repel" magnetic fields they "expel" them. To repel implies one magnetic field acts against another where to expel means to remove all magnetic fields from a region without using a magnetic field to do it.

So these craft can float weightless like a balloon above the Earth just like it would in deep space where there is no gravity. Gravity is a near field phenomena that is stronger near large objects and diminishes with distance. Remove the force of gravity and everything would be floating weightless just like in space. The biggest problem is that many have been brainwashed and led to believe gravity is "something" and not a "condition of something". They have been taught not to think about gravity or question it and just pretend it exists for no apparent reason.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2358 on: April 12, 2023, 09:03:47 PM »

 Remove the force of gravity and everything would be floating weightless just like in space.
well and how ???
I need to move my body to Honduras.
Because they don't want to put me on the plane. >:(

a.king21

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2359 on: April 15, 2023, 11:24:53 PM »
"It's so simple you'll laugh".
I want to give some explanation about this comment from Tariel, because he gave it to me in a certain context.
Tariel was talking about Azil Nadir, the Turkish millionaire who was funding him at the time.
He said that at one point things seemed to be going so well that he nearly gave them the secret. He then changed his mind and became suspicious of their motives. Apparently there were rumors that  Azil Nadir was going to "blackmail" the oil-rich Arabs and had no intention of bringing the device out into the public domain.
Tariel then told me that he was agonizing about his device because once he built one then the secret could be seen by anyone who opened the device.
This aspect has caused Tariel a lot of agony because the secret cannot be hidden. It is not some fancy resonance frequency or anything like that. We even talked about putting his devices into a huge locked bulletproof metal container with 24-hour surveillance and cctv cameras.
After talking about his agony for some time he then told me that famous phrase.
This brings me back to another Kapanadze phrase. "Melnichenko was close."
Melnichenko was trying to create an over-unity transformer.
I believe Kapanadze gave away the most secrets in his very first video. After that, he became more secretive.
So now have a look at this still from the 2004 video.
What do you see? Come on guys (and galls) it's staring us in the face.
It is also NOT in any of his patent applications.
 Any suggestions?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2360 on: April 16, 2023, 05:21:59 PM »
Aking,

After studying the 2004 video and focusing on the transformer, it would appear that the secondary is shorted and the primary wires proceed on to the remaining circuitry.  This could mean that there is a gain function in the timing of pulses to the primary and the resulting collapse of the so-called leakage inductance between the primary and secondary.  Since the core is iron, there may be core effects also in play or they may be the overall gain mechanism.  If so, is the grenade basically fluff?

regards,
Pm

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2361 on: April 16, 2023, 06:54:21 PM »
It's not on the patent because it's number 9? or 3

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2362 on: April 16, 2023, 07:11:41 PM »
Kapanadze explicitly mentioned several times that the principles of the device were developed by a group of people who came to such results in the process of studying gravity and antigravity.

Many people remember the beginning of the video in German, there is also about the use of gravitational forces.

What can be thought in this direction? About serious scientific research? Quantum gravity, quantum effects..

For example:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_Li_(physicist)
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The alignment may be possible by trapping superconductor ions in a lattice structure in a high-temperature superconducting disc.
https://youtu.be/eS_rEzKdzBA?t=137
https://quantumantigravity.wordpress.com/douglas-torr/

r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2363 on: April 16, 2023, 07:29:07 PM »
a.king21: Did Kapa mention a glass container? like an vaccume tube? I've read it before but is it possible?

Sergh

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2364 on: April 16, 2023, 08:38:35 PM »
Any suggestions?
About the photo of the transformer.
My opinion is that this is an ordinary old Soviet transformer with a power of about 100 watts.
Probably a transformer that lowers the voltage from 220 volts to 12 volts 5-7 amperes current, as thick leads are visible on the secondary winding.
Some have argued that this transformer looks like a transformer from a Soviet microwave oven.  But I didn't find a match. No magnetic shunts visible, no high voltage wires, no special high voltage leads.

a.king21

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« Reply #2365 on: April 16, 2023, 08:47:07 PM »
a.king21: Did Kapa mention a glass container? like an vaccume tube? I've read it before but is it possible?
No, but he wanted to build the first device for us inside a proper aquarium ie under water with some mechanical device working, but I said that was not acceptable.
However, on one occasion he asked me if we can get Deuterium (Heavy water) in the UK.
I said I had heard of it and it could be obtained from specialist suppliers.
Anyway, here is a link to Melnichenko's transformer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8c82ABs02M&t=605s
It is claimed to be COP 150%
ie 50% Over Unity.
On one occasion a war was going on and he could not get braided cable, which I took to mean shielded co-ax.
He said the device would not work without braided cable.
He also told me the device worked on high frequency and not high voltage.  I suppose "high voltage" depends on individual understanding.
I think the device works like this:
He generates a few percent OU from the static field. This is done in L2. He then feeds the extra power into L1
Li now has the original power PLUS the extra from L2.
We now have a vortex OU field which would explode if the device did not have a parallel spark gap as a fail-safe.
The grenade coil and all that stuff are necessary for the power transfer L2 to L1.
If he indeed was doing a Tesla thing, then you have all the theory and answers in Don Smith's work.
Kapa also told me the device would overheat if not connected to an earth ground. This is entirely consistent with the vortex theory and not Tesla. An alternative to an earth ground would be the negative of a lead acid battery. (This last part is Tesla)


Why would the device overheat? Think about it: Steve Marks "TPU" overheated after a couple of hours.
If you are getting your electrons from the static field around your device, eventually this would cause heating and overheating.
By using an earth ground you are getting the electrons from the ground and NOT just the air around your device.
Kapandze even tells us he gets the electrons from the air.
High frequency and a modest high voltage do not obey Kirchof's or ohms law. The electricity is mostly on the surface of the wires. Also, HF and HV generate plasma. (As does a spark gap)
Plasma is a whole bunch of atoms with the outer electron forcibly removed. These electrons are then available to enter your device.
Additional electrons would also enter the device due to the high magnetic field created by the plasma and vortex.




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2366 on: April 17, 2023, 01:04:05 AM »
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If we assume  the most silly trick - it would be batteries.

I try not to make such assumptions after observing a ufo pull 100G and accelerate to 60,000 mph in under a second. Now it seems strange watching people desperate to make up excuses for anything they cannot understand. After seeing a ufo and a working FE device first hand my perspective changed.

It's strange, you don't believe something that looks like a transformer could do something different. While I saw a craft which could presumably lift off, travel to the other side of the planet and set down in under 10 seconds being conservative. As such, I think most of these FE devices are child's play compared to the advanced technology I saw. So they produced a supposed COP>1, big deal.

That's the thing isn't it?, were not all the same and by no means are we equal. Somewhere another person just invented another FE device and for them everything changed. That's pretty cool...

AC

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2367 on: April 17, 2023, 03:04:07 AM »
https://vk.com/id285085326
I am 99% certain that this is Kapanadze's secret.
Below is a comparison of Melnichenko's transformer and Kapanadze's.
It is possible that Kapanadze enclosed L2 with a copper tape capacitor to additionally capture the Magnetic field.
Anyway, there is plenty for experimenters to have a go at, just please share your stuff as it's open source anyway.
We do need your help, Wesley, in having a look at Melnichenko's posts to see if he has improved his device.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtqI2EhN32Mvq7Wp5G9Vpg/videos[/font][/size]
https://vk.com/id285085326
Melnichenko's patent:-
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010117306
Also, I enclose his schematic. The diodes are important in defeating losses maybe Lenz but I don't know for sure.

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2368 on: April 17, 2023, 04:32:52 AM »
https://vk.com/id285085326
We do need your help, Wesley, in having a look at Melnichenko's posts to see if he has improved his device.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtqI2EhN32Mvq7Wp5G9Vpg/videos
https://vk.com/id285085326
Melnichenko's patent:-
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010117306
Also, I enclose his schematic. The diodes are important in defeating losses maybe Lenz but I don't know for sure.
I'm not in my office for  few weeks now.
I can write simple comment in 3 minutes however in most of the day I'm unavailable.
But I'll do my best.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2369 on: April 17, 2023, 08:41:32 AM »
Melnichenko's posts to see if he has improved his device.
My opinion about Melnichenko:
 - there is no free energy in his devices. Ordinary devices he mystifies as overunity. We did not watch the video of the device functioning without external power sources. Melnichenko does not carry out professional measurements of consumed and produced energy.

About the transformer:
 - аny experienced electrician or electronics specialist will tell you how much power such transformers are capable of operating. The transformer is most likely not rewound. Factory white labels and thermal film seem to be present. An ordinary low-frequency transformer on iron plates. Not ferrite, no high frequency.

The transformer has a primary winding wound with a thin wire, let's say 0.5 mm in diameter, and a secondary winding wound with a wire, for example 2 mm. (optimistic). The number of turns for example 1000 and 60. It is physically and geometrically impossible to get anything else from such a transformer, such as 220 volts 0.5 amperes and 12 volts 7 - 8 amperes maximum.

How to get 5 kilowatts from it? This is impossible by magnetic induction on ordinary iron transformer in such dimensions and weight.

To understand the weight and size problems of power generation, I suggest looking at some reviews and testing of portable generators. With a weight of more than 100 lb, of which more than half the weight falls on the electric generator itself, they have difficulty generating even 3 kilowatts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2HvgB0x7I