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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1146959 times)

kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1515 on: June 02, 2019, 02:17:52 PM »
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Now if you ran out of gas, let the pump run dry and kept it running until just before it burned it self out, then pumped fresh air into the tank at exactly the right time you might get it to explode.
:) :D ;D
Well, I basically thought so.

WhatIsIt

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1516 on: June 02, 2019, 10:39:33 PM »
Anyway, wish you luck!

Cheers!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1517 on: June 04, 2019, 10:37:12 AM »
Wesley

When did you see the device operating in the garage of Kapanadze. Did you hear any sound? e.g. noise? squeaking? or something you can describe.

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1518 on: June 04, 2019, 11:15:20 AM »
Yes I did.
Sound of relay- click 
Tariel  helper was trying to fool  my attention  (yelling)  , and sound of  battery charger(  booster)  used
to start the device.

So he was  sparking  the two clips  of the two wires   to  create the sound  of  the spark.
Than  in  one point (while using his voice at loud)  he connected the  two electrodes to  the device. 
There was characteristic sound  of the relay  from the device.


Wesley

r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1519 on: June 04, 2019, 12:36:33 PM »
The sound of the relay was continuous? or just on switching? what speed could he have had if he was still working?
Was another sound heard. I mean a squeal of 4-15kHz
I know that you have already thought about all this but try to match the best solution all the time.
I also know that you are currently a supporter of Viziv from Kapanadze and this is also a good explanation but I am looking for a connection with ferrites that also have other properties when they are made of different materials.
I deal with this because I had an interesting test and it brought me closer to the ferrites. I remember Kapa saying that he uses 5-6 ferrites in his first device. I do not know why most of them think that coils are there. We also know that similar effects can be with pure iron so an iron pipe could be there. It all hangs up but I want to say that it is now perhaps an investigation to which he returns after 2 years. You can say that I made a circle.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1520 on: June 04, 2019, 01:44:31 PM »
HUMANITY mandates FAIRNESS, simple humans not :

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The Alabama estate administration : without HUMANITY,  only classical humanoid = apartheid and racism
Are you saying you are trying to help your people in a closed community by this type of technology ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1521 on: June 04, 2019, 01:48:36 PM »
The sound of the relay was continuous? or just on switching? what speed could he have had if he was still working?
Was another sound heard. I mean a squeal of 4-15kHz
I know that you have already thought about all this but try to match the best solution all the time.
I also know that you are currently a supporter of Viziv from Kapanadze and this is also a good explanation but I am looking for a connection with ferrites that also have other properties when they are made of different materials.
I deal with this because I had an interesting test and it brought me closer to the ferrites. I remember Kapa saying that he uses 5-6 ferrites in his first device. I do not know why most of them think that coils are there. We also know that similar effects can be with pure iron so an iron pipe could be there. It all hangs up but I want to say that it is now perhaps an investigation to which he returns after 2 years. You can say that I made a circle.
yeah iron might work in a relay but it's far too slow for optimum gain a person in the real world would want to except as optimum.

r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1522 on: June 05, 2019, 08:55:02 AM »
I agree that the need for a spark that gives a wide spectrum because it is not for frequencies only ...!

What you have heard is the effect of the relay which after the jump no longer worked?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1523 on: June 05, 2019, 07:56:22 PM »
You  need to understand  that original  spark  gap   was replaced by Tariel Kapanadze ""Helper  with HV train pulse  generator from  gas heating  furnace.
Wesley

Is that device is made by Kapanadze or that man on your video?
What I am trying to ask is: Did they all know how it works or only Kapanadze itself?

Thanks!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1524 on: June 06, 2019, 11:35:46 PM »
Wesley,

A short while back we were talking VNA's and you were kind enough to make some recommendations the final one being the PCI card unit.

I found this AIM unit interesting and would love your opinion concerning it's specs since you are much more knowledgeable in this gear.  I showed it to you before and not sure if your response was humbug or what.  I like the fact it is very modern, inexpensive and has been recommended by some RF guys I know.  However I am not sure of our requirements besides S parameters and the frequency.

https://www.arraysolutions.com/antenna-analyzers%20/vna-uhf

I am coming back on some time and look forward to going down that one rabbit hole.

Thanks,
Mick


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1525 on: June 12, 2019, 03:49:55 AM »


translation
Hello everyone.
Im being a bit skeptical now but thats the point I guess.
I looked up antennas and Refractions and surface waves etc.
Im not an expert but In order to get surface wave (zenneck for example)
Wave must travel thru more refractive material first and experience total refraction when reaches less refractive material at brewster angle.
Здравствуйте все. Сейчас я немного скептически отношусь, но в этом и есть смысл. Я посмотрел антенны и "Преломления",( refraction) а также поверхностные волны и т. Д. Я не эксперт, но для того, чтобы получить поверхностную волну (например, zenneck), волна должна сначала проходить через большее количество "преломляющего" (refractive) материала и испытывать полное {"преломление",(refraction) когда достигает меньшего "преломляющего" (refractive) материала под углом Брюстера.

So source must be underground .
tesla coil + ground seems to work just like communication antenna. Monopole antenna create mirror image by reflection from ground surface
and behaves like dipole antenna.
Так что источник должен быть под землей. Земля катушки Тесла, кажется, работает так же, как антенна связи. Монопольная антенна создает зеркальное отражение при отражении от поверхности земли и ведет себя как дипольная антенна.
When you succeed in launching a surface wave you get total Refraction and no reflection so no ground mirror effect .

No ground mirror effect means no underground image of the antenna aka probe so wesleys simulation of tesla coil launching air/ground interface Zenneck wave will not work because you get reflection only.
Im probably missing something and all my knowledge comes from wikipedia Lol.
Maybe thats why Tesla went bankrupt digging tunnels for grounding of his magnifying transmitter.
Когда вам удастся запустить поверхностную волну, вы получите полное преломление и никакого отражения, так что нет эффекта зеркала. Отсутствие эффекта наземного зеркала означает отсутствие подземного изображения антенны или зонда, поэтому имитация моделирования катушки Тесла, запускающего воздушный / наземный интерфейс, волны Зеннека не будет работать, поскольку вы получаете только отражение. Я, наверное, что-то упустил, и все мои знания получены из Википедии Lol. Возможно, именно поэтому Тесла обанкротился, копая туннели для заземления своего увеличительного передатчика.


Thank You and please explain me why am I wrong.
Спасибо и, пожалуйста, объясните мне, почему я не прав.

Simple  short answer from moderator:
you didn't  include in your analysis:
1. polarization
2. HV static forces
3.  Standing wave 

Простой короткий ответ от модератора,
вы не включили в свой анализ :
1. поляризация
2. статические силы ВН
3. стоячая волна

Note  translation was  added to original  post by  moderator to help Stalker to understand  better.
перевод был добавлен в оригинальный пост модератором, чтобы помочь Сталкер лучше понять.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 06:57:52 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1526 on: June 12, 2019, 08:19:18 PM »
Questions  directed to me from Russian audience:
What frequency  Viziv  tower works  at.?

answer :

18kHz  when  in  full power ( 22kHz when testing)
but The 18kHz is at the  harmonic  of  Schumann resonance.!!!!!!!!!!!

Башня Viziv работает в частоте 18kHz. но хорошо .... э
 должнa работать na 18kHz  когда на полную мощность
Снова Вы должны ждать part  #2 моей статьи, чтобы понять больше..
(22kHz test mode)

 
18 кГц - гармоника
нo  резонанса Шумана. !!!!!!!!!!!

Note: but this is not one single frequency - it is spectrum of available frequencies at 18kHz.


Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1527 on: June 15, 2019, 01:45:56 AM »
Please let me clarify some nonsense in my post. It really takes a lot of time to compose it . And time is what I lack the most.

1. Polarization Is it only physical orientation of coil . just like vertical monopole or dipole . spheres one over another in vertical lane above ground ?

2. HV static - While watching clip from Andrey Pastukhov  i can see person being carefull keeping hands away from antenna . so high voltage(like tesla coil)  is necessary?

3. Standing Wave  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave  wiki posted animation about two waves traveling one right other left. Is this why 90 degree and two coils? Then coil 3
                              inside the two, experience that kind of wave form creation? (still its a bit confusing )



1. Polarization  - Electromagnetic waves (such as light), traveling in free space or another homogeneous isotropic non-attenuating medium, are properly described as transverse waves, meaning that a plane wave's electric field vector E and magnetic field H are in directions perpendicular to (or "transverse" to) the direction of wave propagation; E and H are also perpendicular to each other. By convention, the "polarization" direction of an electromagnetic wave is given by its electric field vector.
From a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ now i know that this is controlled by adjusting a distance between ground and top capacitor (top load) . ?  what if i want to excite surface wave using other material instead of earth ( air and water)?? same principle?

2. HV static - While watching clip from Andrey Pastukhov  i can see person being carefull keeping hands away from antenna . So high voltage(like tesla coil)  is necessary?
Tesla coil may work properly up to a megahertz or little more, but what about 52 mhz ?
This high frequency gives me 4.73 feet length of wire and that is not enough to build tesla coil or slayer exciter. And this is my another
question will this work with kacher ( slayer  circuit ) or classic tesla coil setup is necessary ? Im looking for easy way to pulse  coil at resonant frequency.

3. Standing waves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k
So simply for this condition i need resonance?
http://www.deepfriedneon.com/tesla_frame0.html
following instructions from your video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ I need to keep this "tesla coil" resonating (L1-L2),
what about 1/4 wavelength for my secondary coil wire length ? 
Nodes and standing waves were present in hairpin circuit . That required resonant match of nst transformer to capacitors used in series.
I wonder if i can simulate this using signal generator and observe it on my cheap Chinese oscilloscope . Any suggestions how?

Thats it for now.
Thank You.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1528 on: June 18, 2019, 12:24:59 AM »
Tiger from Kazakhstan
This is his work with Electret.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret

The capacitor next to Spark Gap is  0.1microfarad
Wesley
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 07:04:02 PM by stivep »

r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1529 on: June 18, 2019, 08:36:43 AM »
Electret - I've done experiments with these waxes and the effect is positive.
The film has successful and failed attempts with electret as well as the effect of charging plexiglass to a negative value which is strange.
You can have similar effects with Teflon (PTFE) or plexi have much better electrostatic properties.

However, there are not many potentials but they are permanent.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeuAaR1TvxY