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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1146322 times)

Ansis

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1170 on: January 21, 2019, 04:21:38 PM »
This video of Master IVO is about Kapanadze device.
There is Ground+Bifilar interactions between.
https://youtu.be/xHDrmGPY-78
There he is doing something which is about "strange" voltage rise on the Capacitor which is
conected through Abramenko plug to the ground(water pipe).
P.S. All that is important when we try to put "Kapanadze puzzle" together.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1171 on: January 21, 2019, 04:51:20 PM »
Yes and this video too.
https://youtu.be/uhY27Zoor-Q
About Tesla bifilar coils properties.
He say, That type of coil have Standing Wave properties!, at Resonance frequency.
It is very "resonate" with my understanding of Kapanadze generator working principles.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1172 on: January 21, 2019, 07:49:47 PM »
This video of Master IVO is about Kapanadze device.
There is Ground+Bifilar interactions between.
https://youtu.be/xHDrmGPY-78
There he is doing something which is about "strange" voltage rise on the Capacitor which is
conected through Abramenko plug to the ground(water pipe).
P.S. All that is important when we try to put "Kapanadze puzzle" together.

From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .
First there is no such  thing like  "dielectric field."
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dielectric field can sometime be seen as:
The average total electric field acting upon a molecule or group of molecules inside a dielectric. Also known as internal dielectric field.

There is not static magnetic field in AC .However at the beginning  of video it is clear  +/_ suggesting DC.
But than we dealing with high current in DC  circuit,and than there is no capacitance in DC for that coil.There is no  fluctuating capacitance in  DC.Every aluminum foil based capacitor can be converted to  bifilar Tesla coil pancake structure.
Only for AC we are talking about significant  capacitive reactance in this structure.

For AC at 645kHz the third coil acts as secondary coil  of Tesla coil structure  .
Since we are dealing with  resonant transformer the ratio 2:1 cuts 50% of the voltage  and that equals
50V.
[(two primaryP connected  in series = P+P at 100V)-( second winding equal to  single primaryP)] =  P =50V
Than connected to Avramenko  Fork

The effect is NOT due to  "dielectric field"  of bifilar coil.
It is due to phase delay on the single wire transmission line where two ends of the diodes are  indicators of  delta T slow wave delay.
In this article :
http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Scalar_Physics/Avramenko%27s%20Plug/single%20wire%20power%20transmission.htm 


Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1173 on: January 22, 2019, 10:43:39 AM »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnrm8jT_6B8
Minute 6:00 : multimeter un touched/ touched : +- factor 10x

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1174 on: January 22, 2019, 12:49:02 PM »
In my "yellow" picture I draw "direct amplification" circuit(not correct, but principle),
with output of 50Hz 220V.

But in Masters Ivo video which is here: https://youtu.be/KbtK9jrk_JI
We see another possibility(of course he work with wall power and water pipe),
of possible Kapanadze device explanation.
If he is capable to charge capacitors in very quick time, than Kapanadze type device,
can be DC to AC converter(but in Kapanadzes video there is only small boxes).
Of course we look at any explanations.
Why is this video important?
Because Kapanadze use that Abramenko plug for 1 or many purpoces.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1175 on: January 22, 2019, 02:23:54 PM »
it's getting bether and bether :o

waiting for the next bombshell of nothing  8)

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1176 on: January 23, 2019, 12:47:17 AM »
 
“From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .
 First there is no such  thing like  "dielectric field."”  Wesley..
 
Eric Dollard  in this 1987 video at 8:18 min talks about “Dielectric” fields..
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaqcuRCsEE
 
Classic borderland labs video from 1987. Eric Dollard gives a demonstration of the two sides of electricity, the decaying electromagnetic side and the growing dielectric side, and shows his singing Tesla coil burning Golden Ratio patterns into wood. Peter Lindemann demonstrates his Rotating Parametric Transformer operating at 108% efficiency. Shows an Alternating Current N-Machine providing the researcher with AC waveforms directly extracted from space. Amazing science from the golden days of borderland research!
 
 Acca..[/font]

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1177 on: January 23, 2019, 07:46:51 AM »
Oh come on we know what Clark's game was and I don't buy into that game, we are more likely to end up like Venus burning fossil fuel and blowing shit into the air since that's the way to create an atmosphere on Mar known as terraforming.

What's your next excuse Solar?  8)  :)
« Last Edit: January 23, 2019, 02:41:31 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1178 on: January 23, 2019, 12:51:26 PM »
From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .

Great! Then I think he has a fair chance to find something useful...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1179 on: January 23, 2019, 01:40:57 PM »
Today, I decide to prove something and I do.
At first we need 2 parts of devices.
One part is that HiVoltage transformer from ebay, I
gave a picture before. It is Joule Thief type device about 1,4$.
Second device is Impulse power convertor from Main 220V50Hz to 12V DC.
I use Z323 Logitech converter(it was laying around).


Setup is very simple. I charge capacitor on the Z323 with HiVoltage.
When Capacitor is reach about 150V DC in that moment power supply STARTS
and LED lamp consume energy which is stored in Z323 capactitor and FLASH out.


This is trusty experiment, because we see difference in charge/discharge time of
different kinds! of setup.


I will prove that, we can cheet when we work with old equipment in my case
C1-68 old russian type osciloscope.


Experiments is split in 2 parts.
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Direct Capacitor charging without "ground" of Osciloscope connected to Z323 Capacitor (-) terminal.


Direct Capacitor charging with "ground" of Osciloscope connected to Z323 Capacitor (-) terminal.

Direct Capacitor charging with "ground" of Osciloscope with reversed AC terminals (Main cord of Osciloscope)  connected to Z323 (-) terminal.
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Second part is the same, but I use "water pipe" like "ground and Abramenko plug for Z323 Capacitor charging.


I will make schematic drawings and pictures with results in new post.






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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1180 on: January 23, 2019, 03:06:03 PM »
I use LiPo 18650 battery and Current consumption was 1.5A and Voltage was 3.0V under Current conditions.

I post here 4 pictures.
First with parts. (Is changed to Fourth)
Second with First experiment where I connect JT output to Diode Bridge.
Third with Abramenko plug connection.
Fourth I explain why "so strange results" is achieved.


stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1181 on: January 23, 2019, 03:09:16 PM »
 
“From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .
 First there is no such  thing like  "dielectric field."”  Wesley..
 
Eric Dollard  in this 1987 video at 8:18 min talks about “Dielectric” fields..
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaqcuRCsEE
 
Classic borderland labs video from 1987. Eric Dollard gives a demonstration of the two sides of electricity, the decaying
electromagnetic side and the growing dielectric side, and shows his singing Tesla coil burning Golden Ratio patterns into wood.
Peter Lindemann demonstrates his Rotating Parametric Transformer operating at 108% efficiency. Shows an Alternating
Current N-Machine providing the researcher with AC waveforms directly extracted from space. Amazing science from
the golden days of borderland research!
 
 Acca..[/font]
Group of loved by us  renegades, not significant enough to become icons of fame for our children is  shrinking.
Eric Dollard  was young renegade before he becomes  old homeless.
He was proposer in front of crowd, watching him asking lady physics.
The crowd was important to him, not Physics


opinion of friend:

it's a guy sitting on a hill (he says that he has to do this out in the bushes - why, are the "guys in black" going to swoop down make him "gone"?),
reading from his self published works, pointing at the pages in his hand, suggesting the audience purchase his work to be able to follow the diagram,
showing a bunch of blurry over-exposed photographs without really explaining the whole set-up. 
He shows high wooden poles and concrete blocks and describes what used to be there...
It's a 20 year old video, citing research finding that occurred before the turn of the 20th century, using outdated, discredited concepts from the history of science. 
He talks of Luminferous Aether! 
This was a popular concept disproved by the Michael-Morley experiment in the 1880's! 
Even great mind's like Hertz can be wrong about some things (probably many things), many of the greatest ancient philosophers
believed that rotting flesh would spontaneously produce maggots (the idea that flies laid eggs in the flesh was not yet known). 
It kind of reminds me of "Alien Autopsy" videos... 
This idea that RCA was a shadow branch of the United States remains unproved to me. 
As far as I know RCA was created when General Electric bought
The American Marconi Company and re-named it RCA, both companies are and were privately held business. 
I have a lot of problems when he reads stuff like "infinite velocity" and "totally lossless". 
These are at best theoretical concepts and do not exist in this world of ours, yet Dollard scatters them about.
Tesla may have believed them, but science requires proof, not story telling. 

I don't care what Tesla, Dollard, or for that matter
Erasmus and Aristotle wrote - electromagnetic waves do not travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. 
In order to refute that they have to actually show this happening!
He mentions "Archetypal Flow of the Aethers in Nature" - what does this mean? 
In my humble opinion absolutely nothing. He cites Wilhelm Reich the Orgone discovering Psychiatrist in the middle of this ramble (something
about massless energy - so much for the law of conservation of mass-energy, where energy can be converted into matter and then back again to energy). 
He mentions the spontaneous creation of energy ab initio! 
He says some energy is totally unassociated with the laws of thermodynamics! 
He shows what now are recognized as fractal patterns (I guess he didn't read any of Mandelbrot's work) that occur all around us in nature, both
inorganic and living, and because organic life uses these fractal qualities it is signs that the non-living fractals are somehow imbued with a "life force"!?
He's got it completely reversed - the physical world doesn't mimic biological patterns, biology uses the same forces in nature for its own benefit. 
It makes as much sense as showing the similarity that the sun has to the chicken's egg, and suggest that the sun possesses "chicken egg force". 

You basically have to throw out all the past 100 years 's concepts in physics and make up new stuff, all unproven, because some guy wrote it down somewhere many years ago???
He talks about extra-dimensional components outside time and space? ???   
What the heck is that? ??? ?
Monopolar electricity???   
"Inversion of Consciousness" ???
I don't know what he means by "virtual grounding"
(I assume this is not a real ground), it's incredibly unclear to me in this video and is far from sufficient to establish that longitudinal electromagnetic waves exist. 
As far  as I know that device he is using is operating as a magnetic loop antenna, although not very common, they are used by many people without violating
any presently held theories of science. 
 
If I were some Machiavellian Madison Avenue propagandist this would be a great video to discredit the field. 
I'm beginning to think that you're holding out on some kind of time machine that allows you to have 28 hour days to review all this stuff<g>. 

The comments section on YouTube look like the video is "preaching to his own choir",
I don't see any critical review of the material offered in the video. 
He seems presented as the prophet of the god Tesla - sainthood is actually mentioned! 
Tesla was brilliant, but erratic, and he like all member of the human race, are not always right. 
Regarding Marconi, I will look into his history, but in all my reading, great entrepreneurs were never cautious people. 
They were bold gamblers, the ones that won (at least once). 
The trouble with entrepreneurs is that given enough time they eventual gamble wrong and lose...
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1182 on: January 23, 2019, 04:15:05 PM »
I use LiPo 18650 battery and Current consumption was 1.5A and Voltage was 3.0V under Current conditions.

I post here 4 pictures.
First with parts.
Second with First experiment where I connect JT output to Diode Bridge.
Third with Abramenko plug connection.
Fourth I explain why "so strange results" is achieved.
Hi Ansis,
Thanks for the results of your experiment. You mentioned in an earlier post that Kapanadze used an Avramenko plug. Where is the single wire that feeds the plug in his device setup?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1183 on: January 23, 2019, 04:44:20 PM »
Hi Ansis,
Thanks for the results of your experiment. You mentioned in an earlier post that Kapanadze used an Avramenko plug. Where is the single wire that feeds the plug in his device setup?

ok even it makes me look stupid .. is there one halve of bridge  used as an AV plug ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1184 on: January 23, 2019, 04:55:03 PM »
To jojo.
Yes. Half bridge=Abramenko plug.