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lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #870 on: December 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM »



Reality bites:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_limit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise
But there is not a need for total recapture: 51% recharge  efficiency gives the repowering force for a new cycle

r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #871 on: December 30, 2018, 04:01:20 PM »
If most of the energy returns to the source, what happens with this lost energy. There is no simple logic here. The energy is lost in the bulb but it could power the system, so how is it possible that the bulb works and "90%" returns to the source. There is a mistake in my reasoning.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #872 on: December 30, 2018, 04:14:26 PM »
There will be always losses in circuits so the returned energy will be always less then input.That small difference you have to add, replenish source.


How small are losses? It depends how efficient circuit is.


So; what proportion of the source supplied energy do you estimate is dissipated as heat loss in what you described as the 'hot' L2 bulb in the 'Zero' circuit?

BTW - Units of energy cannot be interchanged for units of power, current or voltage.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #873 on: December 30, 2018, 04:18:21 PM »
If most of the energy returns to the source, what happens with this lost energy. There is no simple logic here. The energy is lost in the bulb but it could power the system, so how is it possible that the bulb works and "90%" returns to the source. There is a mistake in my reasoning.
Yes, the 90% return to source logic is BS.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #874 on: December 30, 2018, 08:38:30 PM »
Lets spark some fire.
Following image is from Q topology.
Yellow is across the input capacitor.
Reference for both the probes is common and it is the ground of battery,
Blue is across Czero.
All caps are 470uf/400V
Input to my push pull is 24Vdc.
Load=40 and 70 watts incadesent which anyway shines bright.
Czero almost 37 volts when charges and 12 when discharges. This is a 25 Volts difference.

Input current from battery looks steady 2A with or without the Q-feedback topology.

Normally i would expect that during return cycle, input voltage to be increased over 24volts. Or at least the input current to drop down even a litle. I;ll check if i have any errors in connections. 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #875 on: December 30, 2018, 08:53:00 PM »
If someone really has something, they will be able to demonstrate it. That is for 100% certain.
If they are trying to protect a 'secret' they can simply place the secret part in a box to protect their 'secret'.
People who do not have anything can't demonstrate anything, because they have nothing. ;)
They will make excuses of why they can't demonstrate what they are claiming, such as they
are trying to keep a low profile because they are afraid of MIB's/evil secret agents, or they are trying to protect someone's
patent, etc. This is of course all nonsense. If they were trying to avoid getting the attention of MIB's/evil secret agents they
would say nothing at all, and if they want to protect a secret they can just simply place the secret part in a box, and then
they can demonstrate their amazing device with no issues. ;D

No demo? Then 100% for certain there is nothing there. It is very hard to demo something that doesn't
really work or which has never actually been tested on the bench and proven to work, unless it is just a scam
or a hoax. Hot air out equals hot air in.


stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #876 on: December 30, 2018, 09:11:37 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJfr_lz0jU
This guy exactly shows processes in  all  of known devices.

Two generators.
90 degrees.
and  rectangular impulse
that rectangular impulse can be generated by third  generator.

injected before the maximum of amplitude.
He  even shows how to calculate parameters

The only addition that I have made was to provide certain and convincing,  common  elementary structure to all. Akula Tariel Vasmus, Ruslan and  others.
in my video https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4
In addition to that:
I made conclusion that Viziv  surface wave can  interact with Shumann waveguide  with one if its polyphase components.
And that is till now the only explanation  pointing at energy origin used than by devices able to interact such Tariel Kapanadze based concept.
the  base for all of  it is Tesla Coil.
Viziv and FE  devices of Tariel Kapanadze concept  uses Tesla Coil.

 I need to give credit to T-1000 My friend Arunas from England  for Lithuania Experiment.

Wesley


 

itsu

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #877 on: December 30, 2018, 09:32:29 PM »
Lets spark some fire.
Following image is from Q topology.
Yellow is across the input capacitor.
Reference for both the probes is common and it is the ground of battery,
Blue is across Czero.
All caps are 470uf/400V
Input to my push pull is 24Vdc.
Load=40 and 70 watts incadesent which anyway shines bright.
Czero almost 37 volts when charges and 12 when discharges. This is a 25 Volts difference.

Input current from battery looks steady 2A with or without the Q-feedback topology.

Normally i would expect that during return cycle, input voltage to be increased over 24volts. Or at least the input current to drop down even a litle. I;ll check if i have any errors in connections.


Hi Jeg,


very nice, but:

What is the input cap?  C1?
Blue is across CZero?? You mean from common ground (battery) to CZero/L1 or to CZero/B1?
Load is 40 and 70W (110W), so 2 bulbs?  And what voltage (240V, 12V)?

Input current is 2A, so at 24V = 48W input?

I have a similar setup build, but with the requested 12V input, will post some details later today.


Itsu


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #878 on: December 30, 2018, 10:07:03 PM »

I too build the Q device, but the bulb B1 (12v/21W) does not light up (without feedback).

CZero is 2x 10uF parallel / 400V bipolar, it has about 18V DC across it
C2 is 22uF / 250V electrolytic, it has about 35V DC across it

Below screenshots show:

gate signals (running at 10Khz)
drain signals
Signal across L1 
Signal across B1  (nada)

Controller is TL494 with IR2113 
MOSFETs are IRFP260N
(see  https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg474350/#msg474350)

Picture shows the setup.

Input is 12V from a stack of supercaps (6x 100F = 15F) and draws only about 90mA.

Am i doing something wrong?  Is the feedback needed?


Regards Itsu

itsu

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #879 on: December 30, 2018, 10:26:08 PM »

Now with feedback.

B1 very dimly glows now.

Input current went up from 90mA to 400mA (12V).

Same screenshot as Jeg (i think):

yellow is across C1 (supercaps)
Blue is across common ground (minus supercaps) and L1/CZero.
Green is current through B1.

Running at 60Khz like jeg.
So the feedback leads are needed.


Itsu

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #880 on: December 30, 2018, 10:46:41 PM »

Using a 12V / 5W bulb for B1 goes better, some more light.

Same setup as above with feedback.

After 5 minutes, voltage across C1 has dropped from 12V to 9V.
After 8 minutes, at 8.65V, the TL494 shuts off.

Itsu
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #881 on: December 30, 2018, 10:54:23 PM »
After 5 minutes, voltage across C1 has dropped from 12V to 9V.
After 8 minutes, at 8.65V, the TL494 shuts off.

Very nice setup Itsu, as always. If I understand your results correctly, then I am shocked that it didn't
work as claimed for you. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #882 on: December 31, 2018, 12:15:45 AM »
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 12:56:34 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #883 on: December 31, 2018, 01:12:12 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=wIIABIU3tRw
This is the heart of first  element to FE.
The ability to  send energy to earth air interface.
Although there are many  different  surface waves and modes please understand that being able to send means being able to receive at some distance.


We can receive instead of transmit.
Using polyphase with many components you can  make one of it  interact with Schumann  waveguide.
This is your energy source.


 video  https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4

 structure listed :  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529169/#msg529169
watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ9SLux6OA&feature=youtu.be

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #884 on: December 31, 2018, 01:25:58 AM »
 slow waves
https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/slow-waves-2/ ( click on the video)https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/slow-waves-2/
    ( click on the video)
https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=1163

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=883
Kapanadze first excited the connection  and than he received the energy.Viziv sends energy and excites surface wave  and they receive  that what was send  with the receiver.



-All of them use Tesla coil
-All of them use HV
-All of them use bifilar  clockwise and counterclockwise  winding to slow wave and keep  phase shift.
-All of them use ground wire
-All of them use standing wave.

Corum brothers thought about Schumann waveguide in 1988
Tariel did it  by  errors and trials knowing nothing about surface wave


Do you remember Рыбки?  fishes from Sergey Panov video.
https://youtu.be/7pE83oajjoo?t=511
look at upper right corner.
And compare  the fishes with   
https://youtu.be/5xUf94WlfI4?t=635
the same fishes right?

Wesley
https://youtu.be/5xUf94WlfI4?t=1255
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