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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #780 on: December 27, 2018, 01:41:21 AM »
To better understand it just think about two stones striking one against another.
You create electromagnetic wave that in did about  many different wavelengths gives out X-ray nm wave. (Ionizing Radiation)
However Andrey  device does not produce majority of such wavelength. That is easy to spot in few moments of his video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXfur0642_Y

in https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2403
Staruhin   ask question:  how far that field extends? and Andrey  immediately moved far  away from answering that  question!!
in https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2491 Andrey is facing question :how far  the radius of the field extends
Andrey answer is: " unlimited, it can travel in waveguide.. It depends form   power of generator."..
And  he cuts short  Mr. Staruhin.
 
 If we were   to deal with nm waves X-rays and up than starting from  very low microwaves  the propagation  in near field and far field is by means of line of sight
(a straight line along which an observer has unobstructed vision.)
We did not have any obstructions so we should see even distribution of EW ( electromagnetic wave)  to the end or "radio horizon"
however we see problem here :
https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2679
please  watch this sequence for another 20 seconds.
You see clearly  lack of linear distribution in near field according to inverse  square law.  So Andrey  knew that he has  two points of response  where he  has got, two  maximum of  amplitude.
draw the the sinusoidal waveform from an antenna to the window and fallow  the places in that   video where Andrey shows  light in lightbulb. and  place maximum  of amplitude in near the window.
If wavelength is 2m than  divided by 4 = 50cm. The distance between two  highest amplitudes is about 1m. Take 1 period and you come  with approximately   144MHz.
.his  quantum theory  Louis Victor Pierre Raymond de Broglie  and  Cerenkov theory  simply does not work  with  explanation of the device.
That is why Andrey did not get patent ,( his application was  filed  in 2012.)
 dominating frequency in his "Quantum"  NASER generator is  around 144 MHz.
  Here is my paper  showing 90 degrees from my old video :
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=636 look at left lower picture drawing showing  90 deg.
The polyphase could be created by means  of Andrey  that  is - of Kapanadze  or by concept  of Corum brothers.
Here is the link :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en
Here is the link :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en
Wesley
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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #781 on: December 27, 2018, 03:07:15 AM »
   Stivep:   Thanks for your reply.
   Why are you not showing the part that is actually driving the two spheres (or whatever you're using), and their driver circuit?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en


( the lower sphere was my dielectric and it was not connected to the wire.
all I have had was physical placement of dielectric" sphere" in space
between  earth and ground to see if it will charge.
That is also the easy way to determine position of that "sphere" vs frequency  where  generator  and impedance matching circuit is  connected to upper  sphere and the ground.
The polyphase can be  created  by two generators I have  7 of them in total.
The frequency of operation  from 24kHz to 470 kHz.
but I can  go lower by downconverter http://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/Upconverter-vs-Downconverter.html
The means of shortening sphere diameters  in regards to free space is explained in red color link from my post above.
The Corum brothers talk only about 1.25Mhz as the lowest.
Yes I'm at  47kHz so I can match some lower harmonic of Schumann.

Akula  Kapanadze and so on.
Clockwise counterclockwise and bifilar. there are  means of making "sphere" smaller. Read  the red link
the closest to Schumann  fundamental the better. But not me nor Corum Brothers  we do not know how to  go there.
I'm probably much closer than Corum brothers are.
If you go there than you have virtually  no losses around entire earth.

So for you  to understand me better I do not know how to go to ~7.8 Hz  but I do not need to...
You do not have to be ideal..
To get what you want to get from it.





Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #782 on: December 27, 2018, 06:05:03 AM »
It is customary in science when someone is submitting a scientific paper for peer review that readers
will respond back with frank and sometimes harsh criticisms. Sometimes the criticisms are
valid and sometimes the criticisms are not valid at all, but if that which is being submitted for review
has real merit it should be able to stand up to close examination. No one ever gets to the truth by
pussyfooting around it. I don't think harsh criticisms are really ever necessary however, but being frank
I think is necessary if a person really is interested in getting to the truth, so I try to be frank when
giving people feedback.  :)

I don't think that it has been convincingly demonstrated by anyone in the several posted videos here where LED lights are being
lit up due to a strong HV EM field, that some unusual wave type or form of energy is being generated in those demonstrations.
Not saying it is necessarily not the case. I am saying I don't think it has been convincingly shown so far, IMO.
If someone thinks there is good reason to think that an unusual type of wave is being generated in those demonstrations,
then I would suggest that they consider taking a step back and try to think of ways to conduct tests that show that those
special waves or unusual form of energy they think they are generating really does have unusual properties that
differ from 'normal'  EM fields and transverse EM waves. Think of ways that those unusual properties can be tested and
demonstrated in a test setup, would be my suggestion.

It is known that sparkgaps and corona discharge in general will generate high frequency radiation in the range of UV thru X-rays
and even higher in the range of gamma radiation, but the X-Rays and other radiation such as gamma radiation are typically
not at a high enough level to be dangerous unless the corona discharge itself is really high energy. If you think a setup similar
to what Wesley has described is producing very high frequency radiation of some kind, you could possibly employ a
spectrum analyzer that goes well into the GHz range and/or a radiation detector to detect alpha/beta/gamma radiation levels.
A really good high frequency range spectrum analyzer is probably quite expensive however. :)

I have already commented previously that I have seen some potentially promising results in the past in
some of my tests regarding combining two waveforms at different phase angles to each other (such as at 90 degrees).
In one of my test setups I was able to see the same sort of unusual extra 90 degree phase shift occur
in the output waveform when the two input waves were combined that Ruslan had demonstrated in one of his early demonstrations.
What I found is that there is one extra 'feature' I needed to employ to see that effect at the output. I have not heard anyone
mention that extra 'requirement' so far in terms of how to apply it to this particular type of arrangement. I have been hesitant to mention that openly
so far because there is often so much mudslinging and BS flying here, and also times in the past when I have pointed out some other experimental observations
I thought were interesting here it is either completely ignored or one or more people make some braying donkey comments in response.  ;D
I can fully understand why people hold back on sharing some stuff like that when so many are just here to troll and bray. Ha ha.   ;)

My testing so far (in the last couple of years) was done at too low a power level to be able to draw any definite
conclusions at all about whether what I was seeing could produce anything along the lines of OU, but it seems
to at least hold some possible potential. Because of those tests I have done, what Wesley has detailed about
combining two waveforms at ninety degrees seems to me to very possibly hold some real potential, since I have
seen some interesting things as well when experimenting along the same lines. I think Wesley may very possibly be
on the right track in regards to that, but the surface wave stuff and requirement for a special dielectric
arrangement I am not convinced about yet. :) I am currently working on a unrelated concept I have of my own
design, not related to this stuff, which so far is not producing even near OU, but it should be increasing efficiency at
least compared to a more conventional approach, but still need to do a lot of testing and think of ways to try to improve
the setup to have any chance at OU. No one ever said this kind of research should be easy going. Ha ha. Stick with it guys.
I think you may be closing in more on Mr. Kapanadze. Just maybe need to put the pieces together now in the right way. So easy, right? Ha ha.  ;D
Maybe your lucky day is coming soon...


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #783 on: December 27, 2018, 10:01:16 AM »
Schumann Resonance Today

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #784 on: December 27, 2018, 11:18:26 AM »
Frequency

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #785 on: December 27, 2018, 11:34:36 AM »

IEEE is not a corporate body.  If you have difficulty in downloading those papers you can seek help from the corresponding authors. Or just use the DOI number of the paper to retrieve the original copy in the internet archives.


My partner from Ukraine and I are among those who have contributed to IEEE but I am not an expert or savior. The reason why I have to be here is because the reputation of this alternative energy is getting too low. Nowadays everyone can claim to be an expert in the field of free energy.   Even the copy cats having no contribution to the body of the knowledge can be in charge of this field. All the functional OU machines are now being labelled as scams. Whenever a real researcher comes up with a really functional devices, these greedy trolls become so agitated to an extent that they need to kill the researchers.


Take no offence. If I were given an mission to save this planet (which I admit I am not qualified to), my first priority would be to save those honest contributors to the body of knowledge who are starving to death. I would not be interested in giving a treat to the greedy trolls who have chosen to destroy humanity.



BP your bedside manner is atrocious and rude and your hyperlink points to a commercial/corporate charging information center.and does nothing to help people on this DIY thread.

The thing is Wesleys Film covers a lot of ground in his coverage, the first part is obviously about a different concept ' surface waves.
I was asking you about the Don Smith, Dally, Ruslan device. Since your 'Handle' leads one to assume your a 'Save the planet', 'Guru'
Perhaps I should have made that clearer.

What a wonderful helpful being to society you really are!

AG

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #786 on: December 27, 2018, 12:27:29 PM »
Frequency

Hmm those values are so close to powers of 2 (2,4,8,16,32,64 etc) that I wonder if the startup freq is inaccurate? When all the freqs match powers of 2 then you got the starting freq right

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #787 on: December 27, 2018, 01:08:36 PM »
It is customary in science when someone is submitting a scientific paper for peer review that readers
will respond back with frank and sometimes harsh criticisms. Sometimes the criticisms are
valid and sometimes the criticisms are not valid at all, but if that which is being submitted for review
has real merit it should be able to stand up to close examination. No one ever gets to the truth by
pussyfooting around it. I don't think harsh criticisms are really ever necessary however, but being frank
I think is necessary if a person really is interested in getting to the truth, so I try to be frank when
giving people feedback.  :)

I don't think that it has been convincingly demonstrated by anyone in the several posted videos here where LED lights are being
lit up due to a strong HV EM field, that some unusual wave type or form of energy is being generated in those demonstrations.
Not saying it is necessarily not the case. I am saying I don't think it has been convincingly shown so far, IMO.
If someone thinks there is good reason to think that an unusual type of wave is being generated in those demonstrations,
then I would suggest that they consider taking a step back and try to think of ways to conduct tests that show that those
special waves or unusual form of energy they think they are generating really does have unusual properties that
differ from 'normal'  EM fields and transverse EM waves. Think of ways that those unusual properties can be tested and
demonstrated in a test setup, would be my suggestion.

It is known that sparkgaps and corona discharge in general will generate high frequency radiation in the range of UV thru X-rays
and even higher in the range of gamma radiation, but the X-Rays and other radiation such as gamma radiation are typically
not at a high enough level to be dangerous unless the corona discharge itself is really high energy. If you think a setup similar
to what Wesley has described is producing very high frequency radiation of some kind, you could possibly employ a
spectrum analyzer that goes well into the GHz range and/or a radiation detector to detect alpha/beta/gamma radiation levels.
A really good high frequency range spectrum analyzer is probably quite expensive however. :)

I have already commented previously that I have seen some potentially promising results in the past in
some of my tests regarding combining two waveforms at different phase angles to each other (such as at 90 degrees).
In one of my test setups I was able to see the same sort of unusual extra 90 degree phase shift occur
in the output waveform when the two input waves were combined that Ruslan had demonstrated in one of his early demonstrations.
What I found is that there is one extra 'feature' I needed to employ to see that effect at the output. I have not heard anyone
mention that extra 'requirement' so far in terms of how to apply it to this particular type of arrangement. I have been hesitant to mention that openly
so far because there is often so much mudslinging and BS flying here, and also times in the past when I have pointed out some other experimental observations
I thought were interesting here it is either completely ignored or one or more people make some braying donkey comments in response.  ;D
I can fully understand why people hold back on sharing some stuff like that when so many are just here to troll and bray. Ha ha.   ;)

My testing so far (in the last couple of years) was done at too low a power level to be able to draw any definite
conclusions at all about whether what I was seeing could produce anything along the lines of OU, but it seems
to at least hold some possible potential. Because of those tests I have done, what Wesley has detailed about
combining two waveforms at ninety degrees seems to me to very possibly hold some real potential, since I have
seen some interesting things as well when experimenting along the same lines. I think Wesley may very possibly be
on the right track in regards to that, but the surface wave stuff and requirement for a special dielectric
arrangement I am not convinced about yet. :) I am currently working on a unrelated concept I have of my own
design, not related to this stuff, which so far is not producing even near OU, but it should be increasing efficiency at
least compared to a more conventional approach, but still need to do a lot of testing and think of ways to try to improve
the setup to have any chance at OU. No one ever said this kind of research should be easy going. Ha ha. Stick with it guys.
I think you may be closing in more on Mr. Kapanadze. Just maybe need to put the pieces together now in the right way. So easy, right? Ha ha.  ;D
Maybe your lucky day is coming soon...

I think in any research there is always room for criticism, when it is based on some grounds. If people criticize just because this goes against their belief, then it is just BS. I feel that people get also offended way to easily, when they hear any criticism. I think we are at a point where any new invention comes from either intuition or pure luck. We have made up all these "laws of the universe" and we don't even understand magnetism yet. I think everybody should go to the roots when this phenomena was found and start from the ground up. They need to understand what is actually happening and not learn electromagnetism from a book that says something like "PM cannot do work"

Here is my logic again:

1. If there is free energy, there is active suppression in place
     - it has already been found before and energy industry needs it go stay hidden

2. If this suppression has vast resources, then all school books, science and schools are tainted
    - Energy industry will use their resources to keep it hidden. Best way is to teach something that checks out (math), but has little or nothing to do with reality. Some things you lie about and some things
       you just don't tell. You make it a religion and you call others crazy.

3. If we were put on this planet and we need energy, the universe will provide it for us without us destroying this planet. Radiation (ambient energy) from space, Sun being the largest contributor, seems to be the way to go. It supplies almost all energy we got here in different forms.
    - Looking at the devices we already have, it seems to me that we already know how to disturb the ambient and collect energy. It is just hidden behind jargon and we do not realize it

4. Energy can't be destroyed or created. Seems to me like it was all created in the Big Bang, so it is everywhere. Sometimes in matter and sometimes heat&light, but always in a vibration. When last of those vibrations diminishes, this universe collapses to a singularity. We do stupid things to the energy like dissipate backEMF with a diode over the coil. People really need to think what they are doing. They are repeating stuff they were taught in school without realizing, what they are actually doing.
    - L2 in a transformer already collects energy from the universe. You are told it comes from L1 and you can't ever get 100% conversion. Well the only reason is that there is a return cable in L1. You owe
      that energy immediately and since ideal components or wires are hard to come by, you always get less tan 100%
    - same thing with caps. Displacement current is energy from the ambient. You create imbalance between the plates and the universe tries to compensate. What every you gain, you put back into the negative terminal

@Void: many people here do not want to understand for various reasons. Somebody just wants the device and schematics. I can understand if this feels a bit rude towards the inventor. Some people are just trolls. They say nonononono and then some BS or try to get an argument started. some people are after money and they won't give you the actual secret. They might give you a schematic that is missing the principal bit and they hope you fix the problem he could not. Then he applies for a patent and tries to get rich, but he gets killed. If somebody thinks that people would not murder anybody because of free energy, please fill your pockets with rocks and walk into a lake. Save everybody some time

What I really want is a forum that behaves like Aristotle said "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." but it seems those are hard to come by. That would be a forum where intuition ignites the intuition of others. Ideas would be proved on a bench and not by saying "everybody knows, that you cannot go faster than light"

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #788 on: December 27, 2018, 01:57:02 PM »
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 12:05:26 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #789 on: December 27, 2018, 03:59:05 PM »
It is customary in science when someone is submitting a scientific paper for peer review that readers
will respond back with frank and sometimes harsh criticisms. Sometimes the criticisms are
valid and sometimes the criticisms are not valid at all, but if that which is being submitted for review
has real merit it should be able to stand up to close examination. No one ever gets to the truth by
pussyfooting around it. I don't think harsh criticisms are really ever necessary however, but being frank
I think is necessary if a person really is interested in getting to the truth, so I try to be frank when
giving people feedback.  :)

On the subject of being frank and honest, I would like to know how electrically efficient are the demonstrations in Wesley's 'bombshell" video?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #790 on: December 27, 2018, 04:11:12 PM »
Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?


For example:

1. Whether the HV is generated from the flyback or it is the effect of coils in the circuit.
2. Is there a full 50Hz sine signal?
3. ?

Are we looking for something that is not there?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #791 on: December 27, 2018, 04:24:52 PM »
Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?

Yes - that opinions on the modus operandi of his devices are 100% surmise.  :(

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #792 on: December 27, 2018, 04:56:26 PM »
Yes - that opinions on the modus operandi of his devices are 100% surmise.  :(

Maybe something is known?

In my opinion HV is resonated for the generation of electrostatic field which is added to the sinusoidal wave of the second winding.  This is probably the closest answer from what I know.
The secret is how to get connected and by what ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #793 on: December 27, 2018, 05:07:58 PM »
Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?


For example:

1. Whether the HV is generated from the flyback or it is the effect of coils in the circuit.
2. Is there a full 50Hz sine signal?
3. ?

Are we looking for something that is not there?
Well let's look at a Tesla coil since some of the video content suggests there is high voltage coils, if we put a small neon close to a Tesla coil
the ions are said to ignite the gas in the gas envelope but with an LED it has no gas just a PN junction my Tesla coil alone does not do this
however if we had something similar like an EMP pulse it would (and also destroy most electronics in close proximity.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

AG

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« Reply #794 on: December 27, 2018, 05:15:21 PM »
Well let's look at a Tesla coil since some of the video content suggests there is high voltage coils, if we put a small neon close to a Tesla coil
the ions are said to ignite the gas in the gas envelope but with an LED it has no gas just a PN junction my Tesla coil alone does not do this
however if we had something similar like an IMP pulse it would (and also destroy most electronics in close proximity.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

AG

IMP impulse or rather EMP ? Such a pulse is an electromagnetic wave of high energy and frequency.  If we add the direction to it, we have the beam focused like a laser.

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