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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1047992 times)

stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3060 on: October 11, 2023, 01:19:41 AM »
while I had reading your posts it came in my mind. If connected the third electrode to the drop of water. And apply a short, weak but high-voltage pulse to it. Then a primary breakdown from the drop to the power electrodes would occur. As happens with natural lightning, a primary leader takes place. Then we won't need an easily burned jumper.  :P
Watch the Russian video  marked with *. ( much  stronger response than with the fuse)
You do not need  fuse if  you use salted water or you are  at  Black Sea - that is actually not far from you,
However DUT A is recommended to be at the coast, with its base possibly still immersed in  Black Sea water  at least for purpose of grounding.
and for the purpose of  Brewster  angle - the mandatory  for A to B energy transfer.
I also added  sentence to the  previous comment:
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3. I didn't  describe   how to differentiate between targeted DUT B and other objects at sea,  - that can
be compared to the  omnidirectional pattern  of the  vertical dipole  vs vertically polarized Yagi.
I also added  a lot more so it is good to read it again.
Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3061 on: October 11, 2023, 07:24:42 AM »
JUST BE HAPPY. FOR FREE.

kolbacict

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3062 on: October 11, 2023, 08:32:43 AM »
THIS IS WHAT I GET FROM THE KAPA CIRCUIT. IT WORKS ON THE PRINCIPLE OF A VENTURI AS AS PER ILLUSTRATION.
BUT THE ELECTRICAL VENTURI HAS TO BE PLACED DIRECTLY FROM THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD AND BE AS A PULL NOT
PUSH SITUATION. THE MIDDLE IS CONNECTED TO THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD THE OUTPUT TO THE LOAD DIRECTLY AND THE MAIN INPUT TO THE APPROPRIATE ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT.
I do not understand nothing how should be like electrical analog of Venturi's tube.
What should it look like? :o

JUST BE HAPPY. FOR FREE.
https://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,743.msg4781.html#msg4781


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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3063 on: October 11, 2023, 10:54:17 AM »
Wesley, do you remember I gave a link to the American inventors of the water motor? Where a thin stream of water from a nozzle under very high pressure of about 1000 atmospheres was broken against a specially shaped barrier? Because of this, the water became very hot and evaporated. They had a working prototype of the motor on video. I think this motor could use a similar process. Have you tried to contact them?
I meant this project:

Cavitation Energy Systems Technical Presentation:
(about salt water, sodium chloride, at 15:50)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji0GAt-q2EM

4 Impact Chambers Running V-2 Steam Engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cmgMjJeD1M

Single Impact Chamber Running 113 cubic inch V-2 Steam Engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzx1ss8g0X4

Continuous Superheat Steam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fin8cnX3xY

High Temperature Cavitation Explosions - Slow Motion

This is a slow motion video  image of high temperature cavitation induced thermolysis of water. The heated water is injected under high pressure into our impact chamber. Each injection is approximately .275 ml - slightly greater than a drop. This water is saturated with cavitation bubbles as it exits the injector orifice at high velocity. Upon collision with the impact chamber walls the bubbles are crushed releasing intense conductive and radiative heat. This intense heat, greater than  3000C, causes thermolytic separation of the water into its constituent parts. Notice the shock wave towards the end of the vapor ejection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdfrXnRhP0o

Other videos mixed with random content:
https://www.youtube.com/@billmee1611/videos

The home site with link to patents:
http://cavitationenergysystems.com/
Another chanel CES Project:
https://www.youtube.com/@matteocucchiara/videos

CES double shot one bent pipe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76AIaCLZlGI

from comment:

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The output of energy would sustain the 300F heater device on metal impact object. but other devices don't need a heater but University cut off funding after demonstrating free energy generation.
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kolbacict

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3064 on: October 11, 2023, 11:39:53 AM »
We have water jet cutting at our factory.
There, water comes out of the nozzle under pressure of up to five thousand atmospheres.
Where should this jet of water be directed so that it heats up to 300 or 3000 degrees ?

Sergh

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3065 on: October 11, 2023, 02:30:43 PM »
Yes, I have seen machines that can cut plastic and metal with a jet of water with a pressure of several thousand atmospheres.

I also don’t understand why, unlike the CES, during the operation of such a machine a lot of steam is not generated and there is no strong heating.

In the patent and generally on the website, the authors of the CES specifically describe the design of a impact chambers.

Maybe this chamber is the secret of the design?

In addition, the video shows that thermal insulation is used? For what? It seems that a pre-heater is needed inside, which heats the chamber to 300 degrees Fahrenheit, which is about 150 degrees Celsius. But as in the last link in the author’s comment, it seems that the installation can work without preheating. against which a stream of water breaks.

kolbacict

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3066 on: October 11, 2023, 06:32:07 PM »
THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS
N. Graneau _Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau Explosions


maybe it was nitroglycerin,and not water? :)
This is just my guess. The substances are similar in appearance. We do not know.

stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3067 on: October 12, 2023, 11:38:04 AM »
I do not have  much time now to respond with the longer comment, but:
-The  essence is that  in  all of scientific testing  water reminded cold.
No superheated  water was there.|
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The cold fog explosion is produced by breaking down a small quantity of liquid water
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770

Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3068 on: October 12, 2023, 01:07:42 PM »
I do not have  much time now to respond with the longer comment, but:
-The  essence is that  in  all of scientific testing  water reminded cold.
No superheated  water was there.
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The cold fog explosion is produced by breaking down a small quantity of liquid water
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770
Wesley
Ok, I also made such a device, ultrasonic humidifier, random video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM4kbIdqPgA

Factory-made ultrasonic humidifiers are also sold everywhere.
They also produce cold fog from ordinary water.
There is fog, but there is no free energy.
What is missing?
If I put a spark through this cold fog, it will explode?  ??? It's just water, not a gasoline fog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WFqiuv_XSM

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3069 on: October 12, 2023, 03:35:33 PM »
I do not have  much time now to respond with the longer comment, but:
-The  essence is that  in  all of scientific testing  water reminded cold.
No superheated  water was there.|https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770

Wesley


Once upon a time there was Phillipino inventor on youtube who showed  drop of water explosion using something which resemble big coil. He also showed water burn into a flame

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3070 on: October 12, 2023, 03:39:50 PM »
forest,meaning  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dingel  ?
Not fillipino,bolivian :

https://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=926
In 1977, Mr. Pacheco adapted his generator to provide a complete energy system for his neighbor’s new home. A demonstration of the home generator was witnessed by the New Jersey Commissioner of Energy and staff, but again nothing happened.
In 1979, for 5 consecutive days, the generator was demonstrated for the public generating on demand hydrogen, electric and thermal energy as its output at the International Inventors Exposition. He received at this time, a plaque and award presented by a Commissioner of the Patent Department. At the Massachusetts headquarters of the Inventor’s Club of America, he received 2 consecutive Hall of Fame Awards for 1978 and 1979.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3071 on: October 13, 2023, 09:03:35 PM »
lancaIV


No, not Daniel Dingel, but his invention may be related. If I only remember which year it was when video appeared on youtube... HE used big fat coil and a metalic chamber , maybe it was high frequency radio waves. Experiment was marwellous , ordinary water droplet converted into blast or into flame depending on the switch position on device

kolbacict

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3072 on: October 14, 2023, 01:39:37 PM »
Mouse's answer about that,what could was inside grenade kapanadze. :)
http://geoisotopes.com/ru/boron-ru

stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3073 on: October 15, 2023, 08:39:27 PM »
article title:
Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy PETER GRANEAU," NEAL GRANEAU,# GEORGE HATHAWAY$ and RICHARD L. HULL
Department of Engineering Science, University of Oxford,

Try to download it  here:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy
this along with previous articles stands for
experiment in Trojmiasto where two technologies  the A to B energy transfer and load disintegration  using arc, were merged.
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582676/#msg582676
There was a suggestion of  applying this  experience  in Black Sea and possibly Azov Sea
- stressing  that the larger is the load size the easier is to  get expected results.
This technique  can't be applied to underwater objects  serving as a load, like these implanted since 2022 by Russians
in large number creating now high  level of hazard/danger to the sea civilian traffic there.
-However, underwater arc explosion can be covered by me too.


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water vapour -invisible in air, // left him with no explanation of the white
explosion cloud. In his early high-voltage laboratory at Harvard University,
Trowbridge discovered another effect that has a bearing on fog explosions. He
stretched a sheet of paper along the path of his sparks of more than 50 cm
length, and found that at every corner and forking of the lightning-like
discharge, holes were punched through the paper
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without any burning or charring.
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During the Second World War, Frungel (1948) measured the unusual
strength of water arc explosions. He concluded that the explosions
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were not
caused by heat and steam
, and admitted freely that he was unable to explain
the phenomenon.


opinion  expressed is my own.

Wesley
« Last Edit: October 16, 2023, 12:50:39 AM by stivep »

Sergh

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3074 on: October 16, 2023, 03:00:32 PM »
Hello Wesley!

I did not find possibility to download Frungel books in English without paying.
Found it in Russian, you can read Russian, right?

Frungel Frank Pulse technology. Generation and application of capacitor discharges. 1965
Translation from German.


Link to download .djvu file:

https://cv01.studmed.ru/download/edbd9f462e9/7a2a018/djvu/7a2a018

The book is very interesting for the practical development of devices using discharge gaps. It also says about electrical discharges in water. Pages 272 - 283.
Alas, in this book Frungel estimates the effect of discharges below 1.

But the website about LENR mentions some special discharges in water, which Frungel wrote somewhere that they are more effective:


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1948: Prof. Frank Früngel
Prof. Frank Früngel

    Er hat beobachtet, dass bei einem abgerissenen Lichtbogen in Wasser eine anomale Kraft auftritt.
    He observed that an abnormal force occurs when an arc is broken in water.
    Er stellte fest, dass diese Kraft nicht durch Hitze oder Dampf verursacht wurde.   
    He found that this power was not caused by heat or steam.
   
    Er räumte ein, nicht in der Lage gewesen zu sein, das Phänomen zu erklären.
    He admitted that he had been unable to explain the phenomenon.
    Später hat er die Entdeckung angewandt, um unter Wasser eine Impuls-Echolot-Sondierung durchzuführen, um so den Meeresboden zu kartieren.
    He later applied the discovery to conduct pulsed sonar sounding underwater to map the ocean floor.
    Seine Entdeckung fand zudem auch ihre Anwendung in der elektrohydraulischen Metallumformung.
    His discovery also found application in electro-hydraulic metal forming.

https://lenr.wiki/index.php/Abriss_der_Geschichte_von_LENR_und_den_kondensierten_Plasmoiden#1948:_Prof._Frank_Fr.C3.BCngel

 I couldn't find the title of this book or source. Can anyone provide the link or title of this book by Frungel?