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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 970200 times)

Offline Sergh

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2835 on: July 18, 2023, 01:32:15 PM »
Where did I say that? Read more carefully.
Why Borenium Salt ?
Ordinary borax could also probably be represented as a Borenium Salt, but this is wrong, because borax is a sodium salt of boric acid. Although borax is very interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2836 on: July 18, 2023, 02:08:15 PM »
I'm sorry but you said you don't speak Russian. Do you have additional data from another source?

I can say with 100% certainty that the person who knows the Russian language and the alphabet was writing at the level of a very poor user. Judging from the mistakes, obviously Caucasian. I have experience of communication and even correspondence with Caucasians. Having the experience of noticing and analyzing I draw a conclusion.

to the best of my knowledge, [1) расьпорька 2) цольборениия]   1) spacer or rather a fixative more precisely 2) barium salt.

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Barium sulfate, barium sulfate is an inorganic compound, barium salt of sulfuric acid of the composition BaSO4. The salt is insoluble in water, ethanol, soluble in concentrated sulfuric acid. It is used in the production of white pigments, for cooling and lubrication of drilling tools at oil wells.

! barium salt, probably on a cone, for cooling.


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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2837 on: July 18, 2023, 03:24:24 PM »
I am not russian.

If you are not Russian I assume you know less about this language. Only a person who knows the language very well can understand the author of the words he wants to translate well, but even then he can do it wrong. There are additional aspects of language that will change the meaning of words. Slavic languages are very, very precise. You can say a sentence in dozens of ways and with any subtlety. Sometimes it helps and sometimes it hinders.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2838 on: July 18, 2023, 03:44:11 PM »
It is not easy to understand what the author meant by putting these design names on the drawing. Probably, when the drawing was drawn, there were verbal explanations.  Especially there are not a lot of elements.  I myself have drawn my designs many times, for those who asked and were interested. It is for this reason, in addition to the names, I also build a possible imagination of the design. For this you need to know the subject. Today 99% do not know the difference between a simple generator with a core and a transformer. Why the generation in a transformer does not come out, but the simplest generator does for a junior high school student.

By the way, the difference between a generator and a transformer can be understood from the marks I have left in the description of the operation of element 9 of the scheme

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html


My answer just concerns, my design in the blog and Kapanadze's generator by principle of operation (current generator)
https://www.quora.com/What-causes-a-generator-to-generate-half-of-its-voltage/answer/Serge-Rakarskiy


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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2839 on: July 18, 2023, 04:50:51 PM »
I can say one thing, the thick copper tube of the inductor is powered through 2Ц106Г diodes.
These diodes has maximum current 10 mA.  Somehow this does not really fit with large pulsed currents.  :o

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2840 on: July 18, 2023, 09:15:41 PM »
If I'm right, the sound is:
from a metal round can
from the coil so there is a core there
from the transformer on the table.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2841 on: July 18, 2023, 09:40:40 PM »
I'm only considering the first Kapanadze device. It's my opinion that in the can is a T.V.C., a high-voltage transformer. The jar is a Faraday shield. The grenade itself is a reactor "current amplifier" (9). It's basically a current generator. The main transformer that sets the impulse and diode bridge are behind the "grenade". The figure we have considered is a sketch of this very reactor of the grenade.


https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2842 on: July 19, 2023, 09:19:04 AM »
I can say one thing, the thick copper tube of the inductor is powered through 2Ц106Г diodes.
These diodes has maximum current 10 mA.  Somehow this does not really fit with large pulsed currents.  :o

Just everything is right, strong currents are not needed in Kapanadze's "Current Amplifier", only one current force should be present there, in the core of the power circuit. That's what this device was created for.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2843 on: July 19, 2023, 01:43:35 PM »
I can say one thing, the thick copper tube of the inductor is powered through 2Ц106Г diodes.
These diodes has maximum current 10 mA.  Somehow this does not really fit with large pulsed currents.  :o
KZ109 diodes were seen between a copper tube and a bobbin. Visually, they are used as spacers to hold the copper coil over the bobbin.

http://www.155la3.ru/price_kc109a.htm

This diodes is high-voltage column of pulsed diodes. They were used as a damper diodes in horizontal scanning circuit of very old tubes TVs.
Up to 6000 V and 1 ampere per impulse.
If the pulses are short time, it will more.

The diode KZ109 similar to this western diodes:

https://vikiwat.com/en/diode-tv20-1300v.html

Presumably the reason why  are used two diode, connected in different directions with the inductance in the series with one of them:
- if ferrite magnets "from magnetic separators"( (c) Kapanadze )  are placed inside the bobbin and pulsed bidirectional magnetic field applied, these magnets will demagnetized over time.

To prevent demagnetizing of the magnets,  may be Kapanadze maximizes the forward current and minimizes the reverse impulse by adding inductance in series with one diode.

You can read and watch a video about amateur devices for magnetizing permanent magnets. Without a diode between the capacitor and the coil, the magnets are weakly magnetized.

Sorry, I couldn't find anything similar in English:
(Attention to the big diodes connected in series with the magnetizer coil)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDaFzCmKaJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFINyI5GnRY

https://forum-ixbt-com.translate.goog/topic.cgi?id=48:8515-4&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2844 on: July 19, 2023, 06:29:43 PM »
This is the oldest form of writing. Even using the entire Internet, there will be great translation difficulties. Especially if you have handwritten text.
And also in Georgia, the vigesimal  number system is used.  Maybe that's why Kapanadze achieved out to be a overunity. Because he measured the input power in Russian, and the output power in Georgian  ? ;D

KZ109 diodes were seen between a copper tube and a bobbin.
No КЦ109 !  КЦ106Г

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2845 on: July 19, 2023, 08:32:24 PM »
Apparently you skipped classes about Kapanadze.  ;D

https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192242/image//

See KZ109 under the copper coil?
From the other side another such diode. And the third spacer maybe from delay line for the brightness signal from the old TV, used as a high-voltage inductor.
https://9zip.ru/pictures/linii_zaderzhki.jpg
Or in GreenBox used only one diode in series with the coil.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2846 on: July 19, 2023, 09:16:50 PM »
See KZ109 under the copper coil?
Yes,I see.  No wonder I had to repair them for many years.
And why is КЦ106 written in the figure then?

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2847 on: July 20, 2023, 08:16:39 AM »
https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg366142/#msg366142 


There is another Kapanadze patent first, where he probably discloses the principle of operation of his "Current Amplifier #9"  WO 2008/103129 A1 "INDEPENDENT ENERGY DEVICE"  [PDF].

The autonomous energy device improved in accordance with the present invention starts operating with initial electrical energy obtained from a source of initial energy (15) and subsequently successively generates energy and is characterized in that it comprises a power switch (1), a capacitor (2), points (3), a high frequency generator (4), first filter (5), first spool (6), first frequency controller (7), second filter (8), frequency stabilizer (controller) (9), second spool (10), second frequency controller (11), output (phase) (positive) (12), positive self-power cable (12a), output (neutral) (13), negative self-power cable (13a), neutral (ground) (14), source of source energy (15).

I think that my thoughts and fantasies of an engineer about how Kapanadze's generator is arranged are very close to reality. The operation of the element "Current Amplifier No. 9" is disclosed in another patent, where we have two coils - primary (6) with high voltage, which is regulated through a spark gap (7), and secondary (10), included in the power circuit. In the patent, the connection of the primary power circuit and the "current amplifier" secondary coil (10) is parallel. I in the diagram, on the blue background placed them in series, according to the second patent.  The principle of operation of the element, the current generator by converting the EMF of the high-voltage voltage source and focusing it on the conductor of the power circuit, the coil (10), into a magnetic vortex field, which is essentially the current force.


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« Last Edit: July 20, 2023, 02:30:49 PM by rakarskiy »

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2848 on: July 20, 2023, 01:07:35 PM »

 "See KZ109 under the copper coil?"
Yes,I see.  No wonder I had to repair them for many years.
And why is КЦ106 written in the figure then?

Maybe KZ106 diodes were used in the generator with can (2004), and KZ109 diodes were used in the later  generator "GreenBox".

"Current Amplifier"
I think that my thoughts and fantasies of an engineer about how Kapanadze's generator is arranged are very close to reality.

An engineer who understands physics needs to determine not only current, voltage or power, but the energy received at the input and generated at the output.

The principle of operation of the element, the current generator by converting the EMF of the high-voltage voltage source and focusing it on the conductor of the power circuit, the coil (10), into a magnetic vortex field, which is essentially the current force.

It seems that earlier this approach was called "to get a hybrid of a snake and a hedgehog".
Does not work. You cannot connect a car battery  in series with the secondary of the ignition coil and get 30,000 volts 200 amperes.
The current amplifier must amplify current and voltage. Moreover, the voltage must be more than 220 volts, so that due to the voltage drop on the inductance of the bobbin winding, the output is 220 V alternating.
The output of the "current amplifier" must be more than 300 volts of alternating voltage with a current of more than 20 amperes. Then each of the ten elements, probably connected in series, should produce 30 volts RMS, that's 42 volts amplitude, or 84 peak-to-peak.
So imagine which cell can create such a voltage and current of more than 20 amperes.
The only thing that makes the task easier is that the cell can be reversed, create +42 volts and -42 volts, and these pulses can be less than 0.01 seconds long to get a total of 50 Hz.
Maybe there are more items? Based on practice, chemical elements do not allow you to get more than 4 volts.
Then you need to somehow place about 100 elements inside the bobbin. Difficult, besides, they will be very warm. By the way, this is marked in the figure near the inscription "ferite rings" "cheba" is added, which means it is heated.
"Chemical element" in this case does not literally mean a chemical current source. I mean some unidentified cell that is capable of producing energy. "Element X".
Pulse reversible energy source.
It might be difficult. Kapanadze stated that it took him a long time to make a demonstration sample. Maybe these elements of the "current amplifier" are very laborious to manufacture.
I once had a guess. In the workshop of Kapanadze's "Can genarator 2004 ", chasing tools were identified. This is when an image, a picture, is hollowed out on a metal sheet. In the same video, people come to him to discuss a project of work in this area.
Maybe he used same tools to make power cells?
A roll of some kind of cellophane film is visible on the table in the workshop.

Can the production of cells be similar to the production of gold leaf, when a gold plate is placed in a book between sheets of paper and the book is tapped with a hammer, bringing the sheets of gold almost to a transparent state?
« Last Edit: July 20, 2023, 03:17:17 PM by Sergh »

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« Reply #2849 on: July 20, 2023, 01:46:11 PM »
I think this approach used to be called "get a snake and hedgehog hybrid." It doesn't work ........

First of all, I did not see in the load line of Kapanadze converter, alternating voltage, even with binoculars. At Kapanadze after the PUSH-PULA and the output winding, there is a diode bridge at the output of the diode bridge is a pulse current, which is smoothed by a capacitor (actually a source of direct current). In the second patent it is just a block circuit, nothing more. Thus the whole "cimus" in the element #9, in the focus of which, the secondary so-called winding, stretched in the form of a power circuit wire.  Yes, this element works as a current generator through voltage drop, or rather EMF, which is induced on this piece of wire. 

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