Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion (Read 856337 times)

nix85 · « **Reply #2790 on:** May 20, 2023, 08:51:52 PM »

One more example of degravitation, as reported by late Jerry Decker, creator of KeelyNet. This is supposedly happening in early 90s.

On a Personal Note – Years ago, at one of our Vanguard Sciences Roundtables in Dallas, a man who was President of a Gravity Research organization swore to me that he received a call from a stranger telling him he had developed a means to reduce local gravity to control the weight of any mass to which it was attached.

The man telling me this didn’t believe it so the caller offered to demonstrate the device but he wouldn’t permit any photos or give any details of how it worked. My friend drove out to the far end of a mall in Waco, Texas where the caller was sitting inside a Jeep. No one was else was around so they had no fear of being interrupted.

They greeted each other and the caller got inside the Jeep, put it in neutral and asked that my friend get behind the Jeep and push it to get an idea of how hard it was to move. The caller sat inside the Jeep while my friend pushed it about 5 feet. The caller put on the brakes, turned on the engine and backed it up to the original location.

My friend walked to the drivers side where the caller had turned off the engine. He reached under the dash and flipped a hidden toggle switch. The caller sat in the Jeep and asked my friend to again go to the rear of the Jeep and push. This time, the Jeep moved with the touch of a finger! Like a giant balloon offering almost no resistance as it travelled a good 10 feet with the slightest push.

Of course, he was astonished and wanted to know more. The caller got out of the Jeep, went to the front and crouched down, pointed to a small black box mounted inside the wheel well above the tire. A cable ran from the small black box to a device inside the Jeep which the switch controlled.

Each wheel had an identical device and cable leading to the inside control device. The caller said when power was applied, the local gravity was repelled so that the Jeep was enveloped in an energy field where gravity and inertia were reduced, that he had it set for a given percentage of weight loss but could adjust it to whatever level he wished, even to outright levitation.

The caller would not provide any details about the nature of the box, but my friend thanked him for the demonstration, turned off the gravity nullifier device and drove off into the sunset leaving my friend baffled at what he had just seen.

As is so often the case with such stories, I asked my friend if he got a name and contact information for this mystery inventor and he said yes, but his wife washed his clothes where he had left the paper so it was destroyed.

I asked him if he noticed anything unusual and he said he thought there was a slight whirring sound when the device was energized.

https://keelynet.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/a-tale-of-negative-gravity/

NickZ · « **Reply #2791 on:** May 20, 2023, 09:10:35 PM »

nix85:
As mentioned in the above book, the term gravity, is a false and miss leading term. There is no such thing as "Gravity". The correct force is called Vortexia. as being the power or force of the Vortex. In our case the Earth's master vortex. Which is implosive, not explosive, nor is the Earth by what is so called gravity drawing anything to itself. But, like a cyclone the master earth vortex is PUSHING, NOT pulling towards it's center. It is this invisible inward vortexial aetheric force that can be harvested from, for our self runners, and OU devices. As Tesla mentioned, about harvesting from the surrounding sea of ambient energies. Even though many today would like for him to be wrong. He's not.

NickZ
PS, Thanks Wesley for allowing me to relate the above message, once again. I will now move back to the Rant Asylum thread.

nix85 · « **Reply #2792 on:** May 20, 2023, 10:25:42 PM »

@NickZ I know i have posted from the book Oahspe and i made that perfectly clear, Oahspe is mentioned in the screenshot with quotes how light is a local atmospheric effect and as a filename with a quote and diagram of Earth's Chinvat Bridge. I know name means sky, earth (corpor) and spirit. I know it is a "channeled book with 1000 pages of pure and impartial knowledge, and information about many things" and that it can be downloaded (i have mutiple versions), i know starship is first mentioned in it, i know "It is not someones personal "opinion" of reality." for it is factual, and infinitely more, i have been studying it for years and have been sharing it here for years. Here i quote part about creation of light in the atmosphere, the Chinvat Bridge etc.

https://overunity.com/19090/just-another-don-smith-thread/msg566319/#msg566319

"Earth, Needles in the Atmosphere, and Plateaus.

When Jehovih condensed the earth, and it became firm and crusted over, there rose up from the earth heat and moisture, which continue to this day. But Jehovih limited the ascent of the substances going upward, and the boundary of the limit of moisture was the same as the clouds that float in the air; and the heat was of similar ascent. And while the moisture and heat rise upward, they are met by the etheric substance of the vortex of the earth, and the moisture and the gases of the air assume the form of needles. On the side of the earth facing the sun the needles are polarized and acting, driving forth, which is called light; but on the face of the earth opposite from the sun the needles are in confusion, and this is called darkness. Jehovih said: So that man may comprehend the structure of the belt that holds the earth, I will give him a sign high up in the air. And Jehovih caused the vapor in the firmament to be frozen and fall to the earth, white, and it is called snow. For the snowflake shows the matrix in which it is molded. Jehovih said: Let this be a sign also, that even as heat and moisture rise up from the earth, so are there representatives of all things on the earth which have also evaporated upward, and all such things rise up to the level of density that is like themselves, every one to its own level, and they take their places in the strata of the vortex. These are called plateaus; or spheres, for they surround the whole earth. Some of them are ten miles high, some a thousand, some a hundred thousand or more miles. And all these spheres that rotate and travel with the earth are called atmospherea, or lower heavens. As I made a limit to the ascent of clouds, so I made a limit to the places of the different kinds of substances in atmospherea; the more subtle and potent to the rim, and the more dense and impotent nearer to the earth."

You are repeating what i said and trying to make it appear as if you're saying something new, and you don't do it right.

Sunlight DOES come from the Sun, just not in herzian form.

Like i said on the previous page and many times before and as all the posted quotes clearly say, light does not traverse the interplanetary space as herzian light but in form of primary energy currents, light is a local atmospheric effect created as primary energy currents aka high etheric energies from the Sun hit our upper atmosphere and get partially slowed down and converted into herzian light and heat. All stated perfectly clearly on previous page in all the quotes.

Visible light and heat ARE dependent on material substance, as clearly said, they are manufactured by the upper atmosphere, or more precisely upper atmosphere is resisting primary energy flows, slowing them partially into visible and heat herzian spectrum. Most of it simply passes through Earth with no resistance.

I also said clearly Light does not travel Light IS, as explained in detail on previous page with references to yogis, to Keely, George Hunt Williamson etc. Light and sound exist beyond time and space. I repeat again, as one reaches the highest regions of the inner realms, as one transcends illusion of time and space, Great Light and Sound remain, in their original purified form of indescribable beauty. This is something all Masters/Yogis/Saints agree on and i can confirm it is so.

Herzian light and heat DO travel at light speed and DO come from the Sun, but again, herzian light and heat are a local atmospheric effect and do not come from the Sun in herzian form, one may say they come in form of superluminal gravity waves. Exact speed of these waves varies according to sources, from slightly above C to many many times C.

You are confusing the issue due to lack of knowledge. You must differentiate which light you are talking about, 3 types to be precise, light created in the atmosphere is the lowest form, "light" from the Sun comes in form of gravity waves, it is also a form of "light" of higher order but that is also illusion, and the highest and only true Light is the Light of Sach Khand, it is like a LED TV, Light of Sach Khand is the background illumination (just it does not travel, it IS), and time-space patterns (thoughts) reveal or block it in various degrees.

And this "And, it is it's own non-thing. Aetheric energies , you might say."... Like i said Light in its original form, is first expression that exists beyond time and space, face of God, of course that Light is not a thing but a non-thing. But it is NOT etheric energy. Read back for correct classification, we can talk about original Light, its expression as invisible primary energy currents light which are very close to gravity waves and final and lowest expression the herzian atmospheric light and heat.

And i have stated multiple times before, this is the reason life is possible on all planets no matter how far, cause there is no herzian loss of distance squared. Conversion happens in the atmospheres, where it's needed. And you repeat this too as if you said something new.

One significant minus to Oahspe is that it makes no mention of Atlantis altho it narrates Earth history of last 24,000 years. I have been trying to figure out for year the reason for such huge omission. Since Oahspe is undeniably real, i assume it is an intentional error to filter out all but most sincere seekers who will not be easily dismayed by apparent error, as it is often done when it comes to higher truths.

Oahspe is full of descriptions of starships propelled by singing of thousands of 'angels', that is, people of etheric spheres.

And the mess you made of gravity, facepalm. You truly have no idea what you're saying. Gravity is a fine term, it is not false nor misleading, altho i usually say something like "what you call gravity", it is a fine term if put in right context.

You foolishly write "The correct force is called Vortexia" altho i have been talking about Vortexia for years here (linked above to a post from more than a year ago) and altho i have been talking for years here about Earth's gravity VORTEX. Vortex is Vortexia, it is literally the same thing.

And where did i ever say or imply Earth's vortex is explosive, lol. I say CLEARLY always it is implosive, but what you do not know is that beyond the gravitational barrier (20,000 km beyond Moon orbit) it becomes REPULSIVE.

Now, as to implosive nature of the vortex i have written many times, last few pages back but you are not following

There is a cocoon of ether spinning around the Earth at 7C (7 times the speed of light) (Thiaoouba) and as it spins toward the west it spins the Earth toward the east (Tassel). And unlike the macroscopic matter, faster etheric cocoon spins more compressed it gets (Keely).

Important distinction here, in Kraspedon's book it is said it is important to always approach the planet in direction of its rotation (clearly implied and thus rotation of its etheric envelope), but in Tassel's book it is said etheric envelope spins in opposite direction and it spins the Earth (as also said in Oahspe), so clearly etheric envelope does not spin in same direction on all energy levels, coming back to Vela diagram of Tassel where it is clearly shown and written that nearby dimensions are of opposite polarity.

Quote from Keely whom i have been sharing here for years

"In the rotating envelopes force acts in the opposite direction to its action in the revolution of the earth, where the centrifugal action is greatest at the equator; and the greater the speed of rotation, the greater the centre-fleeing force. In the case of the etheric envelope, however, the greater the speed of rotation, the more powerful is the centripetal (centre-seeking) force which compresses the atoms within; the pressure, therefore, is greatest at the equator and gradually lessens toward the poles. If there were only one envelope, the tendency would be for the atoms to be oblate, to fly out at the poles, where the pressure is least. A beautiful provision of nature obviates this, by providing three envelopes, rotating one within the other, like three shells; the line of greatest internal pressure in each one of which being protected by the equatorial lines, the line of greatest pressure covering the line of least pressure on the others. Each of the three atoms is placed directly under one pole of each of the three envelopes."

http://www.rexresearch.com/keely/keely.html

Furthermore, it is NOT that banal and simplistic as you want it to be. While Earth's vortex is spiraling as i said many times, and it itself is very complex existing in many bands and dimensions, there are, as i clearly wrote countless times already, two VERTICAL streams, what is called "gravity" is a vertical magnetic lines of force pressing from space toward the center and there is an opposite negative flow superimposed over it at 1/3 higher frequency returning energy back to the Sun.

As i said countless times, first is positive order of energy manifesting gravity, light and heat and second is negative manifesting dark, cold and levitation.

I have also shared quotes from Elizabeth Clarer's book where it is said clearly in multiple places gravity is a push. All this you blindly missed. All this i have been saying for years here, 3 currents 1 spiraling around the Earth (vortex) and two vertical ones (gravity and antigravity).

So once again regarding the etheric envelope, while some have been mislead into thinking the etheric envelope is doing the pushing, fact is different, envelope is locally POLARIZING the omnipresent primary energy currents, making them flow in one direction - toward the center of the planet, first lower vertical stream being gravity and its faster vibrating sibling antigravity flowing in opposite direction.

And it is not any of these particular etheric streams that are a special or only source of overunity, they can ALL be resisted with proper means and various effects and energy levels harvested accordingly. As i said in previous pages (culling from Etidorhpa), primary energy currents can be resisted/slowed down into secondary forms of magnetism, light and heat, sound and matter, or can be resisted without producing any of these secondary effects, in that case gravitational field results. Gravity, non-inertial field is described in this chapter of Etidorhpa.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/eti/eti33.htm

Quote from Etidorhpa

Ϟ Ϟ All materials known to man are of coarse texture, and the minds of men are not yet in a condition to comprehend finer exhibitions of force, or of motion modifications. Pure energy, in all its modifications, is absolutely unknown to man. What men call heat, gravitation, light, electricity, and magnetism are the grosser attributes attending alterations in an unknown, attenuated, highly developed force producer. They are results, not causes. The real force, an unreached energy, is now flooding all space, pervading all materials. Everywhere there exists an infinite sea of motion absolute. Since this primeval entity can not now affect matter, as matter is known to man, man’s sense can only be influenced by secondary attributes of this energy. Unconscious of its all-pervading presence, however, man is working towards the power that will some day, upon the development of latent senses, open to him this new world. Then at last he will move without muscular exertion, or the use of heat as an agent of motion, and will, as I am now doing, bridle the motion of space. Wherever he may be situated, there will then be warmth to any degree that he wishes, for he will be able to temper the seasons, and mass motion illimitable, also, for this energy, I reiterate, is omnipresent. – Etiodrhpa Ϟ Ϟ

In short, nothing is as you think. There are 3 main streams that make up gravity vortex of which two are vertical. Learn to differentiate between herzian atmospheric light, gravity light from the Sun and original and only true Light etc.

nix85 · « **Reply #2793 on:** May 21, 2023, 12:44:58 AM »

Who wants to better understand the astral regions around (and inside) the Earth, and how these subtle astral magnetic currents operate read the already shared books

http://www.luminist.org/archives/Farnese%20-%20A%20Wanderer.pdf

http://www.oconsolador.com.br/linkfixo/bibliotecavirtual/ingles/AstralCity.pdf

You can also watch the great movie based on the latter (ENG sub included).

https://www.mediafire.com/file/sd3tun9ba6d85av/Nosso_Lar_%255B2010_BRA%255D_1080p.rar/file

Few quotes from A Wanderer

"I looked to where he pointed, and I beheld the circling belt of the great earth plane, its magnetic currents like the ebb and flow of an ocean tide, bearing on their waves countless millions upon millions of spirits. I saw all those strange elemental astral forms, some grotesque, some hideous, some beautiful. I saw also the earth-bound spirits of men and women still tied by their gross pleasures or their sinful lives, many of them using the organisms of mortals to gratify their degraded cravings. I beheld these and kindred mysteries of the earth plane, and I likewise beheld sweeping up from the dark spheres below waves of dark and awful beings, ten times more deadly unto man in their influence over him than those dark spirits of the earth plane. I saw these darker beings crowd around man and cluster thickly near him, and where they gathered they shut out the brightness of the spiritual sun whose rays shine down upon the earth continually. They shut out this light, with the dark mass of their own cruel evil thoughts, and where this cloud rested there came murder and robbery; and cruelty and lust, and every kind of oppression were in their train, and death and sorrow followed them. Wherever man had cast aside from him the restraints of his conscience and had given way to greed and selfishness, and pride and ambition, there did these dark beings gather, shutting out the light of truth with their dark bodies."

"He pointed to what seemed to me at first a mass of spirit forms which came sweeping towards us as though blown by a strong wind. As they came near I saw they were evidently soulless astral envelopes, but unlike those floating wraiths I had seen haunting the man in the icy cage, these were solid, and to my spiritual sight life-like and full of animal vigor; yet they were like automatons and did not seem to possess any intelligence. They were drifting and bobbing about like buoys at sea to which boats are anchored. As they drifted close to us my friend put forth his will-force and captured one, which then remained floating in mid air. "Now look," said he, "you will observe this is somewhat like a great living doll. It is the result of countless little living germs which man is continually throwing off from his earthly body, emanations solely of his animal or lower life, material enough when brought into contact with the magnetic forces of the astral plane, to form into these imitations of earthly men and women, and immaterial enough to be invisible to man's purely material sight, although a very small degree of clairvoyant power would enable him to see them. A stronger and higher degree of clairvoyant power would enable him to see, as you do, that this is not a true spirit envelope, since the soul principle is wanting; and a yet higher degree of clairvoyant power would show that a soul has never been in this form, and that it has never had a conscious existence as a soul's astral envelope. Amongst ordinary clairvoyants the subject of astral spirits is not studied sufficiently to develop these degrees of soul-sight, therefore few clairvoyants in your earthly country could tell you whether this was a true soul-enveloping astral form or one from which the soul had departed, or yet again one in which the soul had never been present at all. Presently I shall show you an experiment with this astral form, but first observe that being such as it is, it is fresh and full of the animal life of the earth plane, and has not the collapsed appearance of those you saw before, which had once contained a soul and which were there in a state of rapid decay yet. And mark this carefully: this fresh looking astral will decay far faster than the others, for it has none of the higher principle of life clinging to it, which, in the case of an astral that has once contained a soul, often remains for a long time animating and keeping it from perfect decay. Astral forms must draw their life from a higher source (from soul germs in fact), or they soon cease to exist and crumble away." "But," I asked, "how do they assume the shapes of men and women?" "By the action of the spiritualized magnetic currents which flow through all the ether space continually, as the currents flow in the ocean. These magnetic life currents are of a more etherealized degree than those known to scientific mortals, being in fact their spiritual counterpart, and as such they act upon these cloud masses of human atoms in the same way that electricity acts upon the freezing moisture upon a window pane, forming them into the semblance of men and women as the electricity forms the freezing moisture into a likeness of trees, plants, etc. "

Below few screenshots from the movie, first one shows one of thousands of lower astral mountains, this is very objective 'physical' matter (nothing is 'physical') very close to this level frequency wise but above enough not to be visible (most of the time).

Inside these mountains are so called Umbrals (shadow zones) aka limbos aka purification zones (real hells are underground), and on top of those mountains are spiritual colonies, great cities.

Life in these cities is 100% 'physical', identical to life on Earth, we are talking houses, cooking, work, entertainment etc, transportation method is levitating magnetic bus, as i said before even their time is synched with ours, our noon is their noon, only difference is that (unlike majority of humanity here) priority is put on spiritual development. These cities are futuristic by present day Earth standard, construction has begun in 16th century and today there are thousands of them.

nix85 · « **Reply #2794 on:** May 21, 2023, 02:54:07 AM »

From already shared A Dweller on Two Planets, possibly most important book one can read (next to A Wanderer), here is a passage about Atlantean temple on top of Three Tetons, Idaho and how it was found by the same guy who worked there in previous life 12,750 years ago.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/p4qc95220yu491o/ATLANTIS.rar/file

"In the neighborhood of twenty years ago, more or less, counting from this Anno Domini 1886, an intrepid American explorer discovered the famous Yellowstone region, and while on the same expedition went as far west as the Three Tetons, in Idaho. These mountain triplets were the Pitachi Ui, of Atl. Professor Hayden, having arrived at the base of these lofty peaks, succeeded, after indefatigable toil, in reaching the top of the greater peak, and made the first ascent known to modern times. On its top he found a roofless structure of granite slabs, within which, he said, granite detritus, was of a depth indicating that for eleven thousand years it had been undisturbed. His inference was that this period had elapsed since the construction of the granite walls. Well, the professor was right, as I happen to know. He was examining a structure made by Poseid hands one hundred and twenty−seven and a half centuries ago, and it was because Professor Hayden was once a Poseida and held a position under the Atlan Government, as an attache of the government body of scientists stationed at Pitachi Ui, that he was karmically attracted to return to the scene of his labors long ago. Perhaps knowledge of this fact would have increased the interest he felt in the Three Tetons. Our vailx alighted upon the ledge without the temple of Ui just as nightfall came on. It was very cold there, so far north, and at such an altitude. But the priests within the heavy, well−built edifice never suffered cold, for Atla, drawing upon Navaz, had Night−Side forces at its call. The primary cause of our visit was our desire to pay devotion to Incal as He arose next morning. All night the brilliant beams of light from our ruby−colored lanterns flashed the tidings, to such Poseidi as might look our way, that a royal vailx was in the region. Next morning after sunrise our vessel lifted and departed for the east, that we might visit our copper mines in the present Lake Superior region. We were conducted in electric trams through the labyrinths of galleries and tunnels. When we were about to leave, the government overseer of the mines presented each of our company with various articles of tempered copper. To me he gave an instrument, similar to the modern pocket−knife, which I retained to the day of my death, and always valued highly on account of its extra fine temper, which kept a keen edge, good enough to shave with, and rarely required to be sharpened. The Poseidi were adepts in this now lost art of copper tempering. In return I gave the overseer a nugget of native gold. He asked me whence it came, and when I told him, remarked: Any specimen from the famous mine at Pitach Rhok will be highly prized by an old miner like thy servant, more especially as it is presented by the discoverer of the mine himself. Thus had the mine, found by me when an obscure lad, returned riches to the pick and shovel which had rendered it famed throughout the civilized world. After taking counsel among ourselves, we decided not to make the farther northern trip, for every one of us had seen the Arctic icefields at least once, while some of us had been there several times. Instead, we concluded to remain in Incalia for a week longer, and spend the eleven days thereof in visiting, more at our leisure, the great territory where, although of course we did not know it, the Anglo−Saxon was one day to found the glorious American Union. History is said to repeat itself; I believe it does. Certainly races follow in the track of preceding races, and as the most important and populous part of all the North American colonies of Poseid had its habitat west of the great chain now known as the Rocky Mountains, so also the grandeur of America will be upheld by the western and southwestern States of the American Union. Man likes pleasant places to live in; he likes those lands where Mother Nature is amiable and laughs with abundant harvests upon slight provocation; man likes to live in a fruit−land, and where shall he find anything more to his mind than this same southwest and west of the Incalia of yore? Along the ocean shore and back to the Sierra Nevada mountains is the region where, under Poseid dominion, lay a province not second in beauty to the lake region along the shores of Miti. And it bar, retained its fair charm, while that of the other has given place to drifting sands and cactus and the mesquite, and has tenantry of the Moloch lizards, rattlesnakes and prairie dogs. It is no more the Union of lakes and union of lands that it was in that olden time. When we finally left Incalia, that we might return home to Caiphul, the last of our colonial lands visible was the coast of Maine, for we journeyed eastward, then south. For change we decided to forsake the realms of the air for those of the deep where the shark is king. Like all vailx of the class to which it belonged, ours was constructed for both aerial and submarine service, the plates of the sliding deck and the other movable parts of the hull being capable of very close approximation by means of setscrews and rubber washers. To settle straight down into the ocean would be too much like a landing on terra firma. But being at a height of two miles, more or less, the conductor was directed to gradually reduce the repulsion current, thus diminishing our buoyancy so as to bring us into the water ten miles distant from where the slant commenced. He was further ordered to do this while maintaining a speed which would, though very slow for a vailx, be really swift, that is, he was to cover ten miles in as many minutes. When we struck the water at this rate of progress the shock which the entering needle experienced was sufficiently great to cause its inmates to stagger, and little exclamations were made by the ladies. As soon as we entered the water the repulsion was made nil, and its opposite, a degree of attraction greater than that of water to the terrestrial center of gravity, was set up, whereby we were enabled to sink to a considerable depth, despite the air contained in the vessel. The lights outside the windows were started, our speed modified to suit the element, and then we all gathered in the salon by the windows, darkness within and the waters lit without, enabling us to see curious tribes of Neptune which crowded about the strange illumination in their midst. While thus engaged and while listening to the delighted words of an enthusiastic ichthyologist, I heard a familiar voice in the darkness. I knew it for that of my father Menax, and accordingly went to the naim. He could not see me because I stood in darkness, but I could see him in the great mirror, for at home he was in the light and his image was so transmitted, so that I saw not only himself, but his immediate surroundings, just as a person outside a lighted window at night beholds everybody and thing in the interior, himself unseen. - My son, said the prince, thou shouldst not have allowed thy love of novelty to cause thee to act so unwisely as thou didst in entering the ocean at even the slow rate of a ven (mile) per minute. I fear that thou hast a vein of reckless daring in thy nature which will some day bring thee misfortune. Incal punishes the reckless by allowing His broken laws to exact their own penalty. Be cautious, Zailm, be cautious!"

nix85 · « **Reply #2795 on:** May 21, 2023, 03:33:50 AM »

And another essential material about Keely and levitation.

Snell Manuscript

Author: Snell, C. W.
Description: Contains the most comprehensive material from Keely yet located. The Snell Manuscript was written from information taken from books Keely wrote himself. Mr. Snell compiled these notes in 1934. The manuscript was missing until 1985 when it was republished. This is a new unabridged edition. 8.5" X 11" 80 pages, pdf file format.

Chapter Levitation or Gravity Control

In the spring of 1890 Keely succeeded in raising the metal weight composing his airship model, by means of a force still unknown to science. One of his friends stated "When he has gained as perfect control of it as we now have over steam, airships weighing thousands of tons can easily traverse the highways of the air."

"He has gained control of the mysterious polar current to that extent that he has been able to exhibit on the thirds or molecular graduation of the propellor of his airship, 120 revolutions per minute, and on the sixths or atomic graduation, 360 revolutions per minute. He still has the etheric field to conquer."

Keely says "By exciting the metallic mass composing a navigator of any given weight, it may be suspended and propelled. The vibratory neutral negative attraction evolved will bring it into perfect commercial control by keeping it in sympathy with the earths polar stream." This is why he sought to find the sympathetic connection between luminous ether, or inflowing celestial streams, and the radiating or terrestrial streams, which, by their interaction "solar tensions against terrestrial condensations" cause the polar current and its kindred phenomena.

While he used "sympathetic negative attraction" for running machinery, he sought to use for aerial navigation, another force, a "negation" of "sympathetic negative attraction" or the same force that regulates the recession of the planets from each other. This is probably simply polar propulsion, although he terms this elsewhere as gravity.

"The power of the terrestrial propulsive and celestial attractive is to lift and of the celestial propulsive and terrestrial attractive is to descend. Certain polar or antipolar vibrations can intensify either of these qualities so as to cause either of them to predominate. Intensifying the celestial will cause a metallic mass to rise with a speed proportionate to the concentration of the dominant bearing on the negative thirds of its mass chords, thereby inducing high neutral radiation together with celestial attraction."

"An airship of any number of tons weight can, when my system is completed, float off into space with a motion as light as thistledown, or with a velocity out rivaling the cyclone. With the force of corpuscular bombardment its movements can be as varied as is necessary for commercial use at any desired elevation and at any speed." (The Snell Manuscript)

Additional info from From Dashed Against the Rock by William Colville, 1894. (Colville was a close friend of Keely and whole book is about him in which he is referred to under pseudonym Aldebaran.

Levitating Gyroscopes
John Ernst Worrell Keely, 1894

"A small instrument, having three gyroscopes as a principal part of its construction, is used to demonstrate the facts of aerial navigation. These gyroscopes are attached to a heavy, inert mass of metal, weighing about one ton. The other part of the apparatus consists of tubes, enclosed in as small a space as possible, being clustered in a circle. These tubes, represent certain chords, which were coincident to the streams of force acting upon the planet, focalizing and defocalizing upon its neutral center. The action upon the molecular structure of the mass lifted was based upon the fact that each molecule in the mass possessed a north and south pole, - more strictly speaking, a positive and negative pole, - situated through the center, formed by the three atoms which compose it. No matter which way the mass of metal is turned, the poles of the molecule point undeviatingly to the polar center of the earth, acting almost exactly as the dip-needle when uninfluenced by extraneous conditions, electrical and otherwise. The rotation of the discs of the gyroscopes produces an action upon the molecules of the mass to be lifted, reversing their poles, causing repulsion from the earth in the same way as like poles of a magnet repel each other. This repulsion can be diminished and increased according as the mechanical conditions are operated. By operating the three discs, starting them at full speed, then touching two of them, so as to bring them, according to the tone they represented by their rotation, to a certain vibratory ratio, the weight then slowly sways from side to side leaves the floor, rising several feet in the air, remaining in that position, and as the discs gradually decrease their speed of rotation the weight sinks to the floor, settling down as lightly as thistledown. Where one molecule can be lifted, there need be no limit as to the number in a structure that may be operated upon as easily as one. The vessel in contemplation, the aerial navigator, will be over two hundred feet long, over sixty feet in diameter, tapering at both ends to a point, made of polished steel, and will be capable of being driven under the power of depolar repulsion, at the rate of three hundred miles an hour. It can be far more easily controlled than any instrument now in use for any phase of transit. Another very remarkable feature connected with this system of aerial navigation, is that the vessel is not buoyed up or floated in the air through the medium of the air, so that if there were no atmosphere it would float just as readily; hence, under mechanical conditions most certainly capable of production, involving massive strength of resistance to interstellar vacuity this can be made capable of navigating even the remote depth of space, positions between planets where polarity changes being controlled by other adjuncts of concentration for that purpose.

Safely enclosed within this structure, a man possessing the chemical knowledge these new laws give, with sufficient supply of material from which to make oxygen, by the enormously increased rate of speed attained by such navigator where atmospheric friction is avoided, the time occupied in traveling from one planet to another would be amazingly brief, and one can travel to other planets in this system of worlds as easily as the same ship could navigate the depths of the ocean.

The great obstacle hitherto preventing the solution of this problem has been the strength of structure needed under conditions above presented. With this knowledge of matter, the size of structure is unimportant; the heaviest can be as easily controlled as the lightest."

And from the already mentioned Science of Oneness an alleged report of Keely giving a demonstration of his inertia-less flying platform to US military, unfortunately for this one there is no original source.

"From 1888 to 1893, Keely worked on developing his system of "Aerial Navigation." The first successful test was in 1893 which led the way to the construction of an aerial craft. In 1896, Mr. Keely had so perfected his system that he arranged to give a demonstration of the aerial craft to the United States War Department. In attendance at the demonstration were a number of invited members of the press. Descriptions of the craft state that it was a circular platform roughly 6 feet in diameter. On this platform was mounted a small stool set before a keyboard. The keyboard was attached to numerous tuned resonation plates and vibratory mechanisms. [Note: We can assume that Keely had some mechanical process, possibly electrical, for keeping the vibratory mechanisms and tuned plates going. This appears to be what created the "polarized field" indicated in the next paragraph below.] Mr. Keely explained that these plates would cause the craft to rise and float above the ground when subjected to a polarized field which would generate a "negative attraction." When the effect was produced, the craft would come under the influence of [what Keely referred to as] the "etheric polar current." The controlling mechanism consisted of a row of 100 vibratory bars representing the enharmonic and diatonic scales. When half of the bars were damped the craft would move at 500 miles per hour. If all the bars were damped, gravity would resume control and the craft would settle to the earth. [Note: Obviously these bars are not the main generators of the sound vibrations; they only change the way the vibrations are flowing through the device by their resonance. Dampening certain bars allowed Keely to make slight changes in the direction of the flow in the CU that was surrounding the craft, thus changing how the craft traveled through Earth’s gravity.] There were no moving parts in the ship's propelling mechanism. [Note: However, it is still producing a “polarized field” somehow to create the main vibrations that allow it to levitate.] It was unaffected by weather and could rise above any storm. The instrument for guiding the airship was distinctly different from the propelling feature. By damping out certain specific notes, Keely could cause the airship to accelerate to any desired speed. The experiment was carried out in an open field with observers from the War Department and news media. The ship was said to have accelerated from 0 to 500 miles per hour within a few seconds. Most astounding was the apparent total lack of acceleration effects to Mr. Keely as he sat on the stool before the keyboard, controlling the airship. Although the government officials were impressed, they stated [that] they could see no use for such a complex device and so did not pursue the matter further. (Remember [that] the Wright Brothers did not demonstrate their airplane at Kittyhawk, NC until December 17, 1903; seven years later!)"

worldcup · « **Reply #2796 on:** May 21, 2023, 07:45:07 AM »

@nIX85, VERY NICE.

Is this that device! https://youtu.be/6IYy6hfgkGY?t=349

https://youtu.be/6IYy6hfgkGY?t=1090

lancaIV · « **Reply #2797 on:** May 21, 2023, 09:31:49 AM »

#2795 :
' airship1 '- image ,it is an airship its engine,type rotoverter .
With this

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Envez&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search
as electric multiple coil motor arrangement coupling like on the image on the right ,an electric variable speed generator,this principle is since 2009 possible,INPI= patent office with model tested,approved granted !
It is about ambient,forum-members, not to make the monitor full with probably yes,probably no,climate saving !
There is no universal solution in applied technology,appropriate apply !

Motive,non motive,high/low RPMs,high/low frequency,high/low Voltage,high/low stroke power !
Away from net-grid its limiting parameters !
Foreign-controlled to self-controle in situ flexible home plants !
We all have different positions to our ambient,one does not the change matter,other plays

https://rebellion.global/ !
Since 40 years the instructed green movement made solutions MORE EXPENDIVE,not cheaper !
Fixing the appropriate solution ,with variance preservation,and buying : fob factory (shop) !

1¢/KWh electricity provide ,this has to become normal ,2025 !
X 2,the maximum service provider brute margin,Wucherpreis/extortionate price,
allowed BY COMMON LAW and ORDER global !
No,the service society and industry has to work and live and praysing their product Constitution - conforme !

We see,also the passive being Parliaments !And Estates leader,being paid by the consumer !

Parasits !

we consumer are not the Estate Melk-Kuh/Milk Cow = tax slaves !

wmbr
OCWL

NickZ · « **Reply #2798 on:** May 21, 2023, 04:20:23 PM »

Quote from: nix85 on May 20, 2023, 10:25:42 PM

@NickZ I know i have posted from the book Oahspe and i made that perfectly clear, Oahspe is mentioned in the screenshot with quotes how light is a local atmospheric effect and as a filename with a quote and diagram of Earth's Chinvat Bridge. I know name means sky, earth (corpor) and spirit. I know it is a "channeled book with 1000 pages of pure and impartial knowledge, and information about many things" and that it can be downloaded (i have mutiple versions), i know starship is first mentioned in it, i know "It is not someones personal "opinion" of reality." for it is factual, and infinitely more, i have been studying it for years and have been sharing it here for years. Here i quote part about creation of light in the atmosphere, the Chinvat Bridge etc.

https://overunity.com/19090/just-another-don-smith-thread/msg566319/#msg566319

"Earth, Needles in the Atmosphere, and Plateaus.

When Jehovih condensed the earth, and it became firm and crusted over, there rose up from the earth heat and moisture, which continue to this day. But Jehovih limited the ascent of the substances going upward, and the boundary of the limit of moisture was the same as the clouds that float in the air; and the heat was of similar ascent. And while the moisture and heat rise upward, they are met by the etheric substance of the vortex of the earth, and the moisture and the gases of the air assume the form of needles. On the side of the earth facing the sun the needles are polarized and acting, driving forth, which is called light; but on the face of the earth opposite from the sun the needles are in confusion, and this is called darkness. Jehovih said: So that man may comprehend the structure of the belt that holds the earth, I will give him a sign high up in the air. And Jehovih caused the vapor in the firmament to be frozen and fall to the earth, white, and it is called snow. For the snowflake shows the matrix in which it is molded. Jehovih said: Let this be a sign also, that even as heat and moisture rise up from the earth, so are there representatives of all things on the earth which have also evaporated upward, and all such things rise up to the level of density that is like themselves, every one to its own level, and they take their places in the strata of the vortex. These are called plateaus; or spheres, for they surround the whole earth. Some of them are ten miles high, some a thousand, some a hundred thousand or more miles. And all these spheres that rotate and travel with the earth are called atmospherea, or lower heavens. As I made a limit to the ascent of clouds, so I made a limit to the places of the different kinds of substances in atmospherea; the more subtle and potent to the rim, and the more dense and impotent nearer to the earth."

You are repeating what i said and trying to make it appear as if you're saying something new, and you don't do it right.

Sunlight DOES come from the Sun, just not in herzian form.

Like i said on the previous page and many times before and as all the posted quotes clearly say, light does not traverse the interplanetary space as herzian light but in form of primary energy currents, light is a local atmospheric effect created as primary energy currents aka high etheric energies from the Sun hit our upper atmosphere and get partially slowed down and converted into herzian light and heat. All stated perfectly clearly on previous page in all the quotes.

Visible light and heat ARE dependent on material substance, as clearly said, they are manufactured by the upper atmosphere, or more precisely upper atmosphere is resisting primary energy flows, slowing them partially into visible and heat herzian spectrum. Most of it simply passes through Earth with no resistance.

I also said clearly Light does not travel Light IS, as explained in detail on previous page with references to yogis, to Keely, George Hunt Williamson etc. Light and sound exist beyond time and space. I repeat again, as one reaches the highest regions of the inner realms, as one transcends illusion of time and space, Great Light and Sound remain, in their original purified form of indescribable beauty. This is something all Masters/Yogis/Saints agree on and i can confirm it is so.

Herzian light and heat DO travel at light speed and DO come from the Sun, but again, herzian light and heat are a local atmospheric effect and do not come from the Sun in herzian form, one may say they come in form of superluminal gravity waves. Exact speed of these waves varies according to sources, from slightly above C to many many times C.

You are confusing the issue due to lack of knowledge. You must differentiate which light you are talking about, 3 types to be precise, light created in the atmosphere is the lowest form, "light" from the Sun comes in form of gravity waves, it is also a form of "light" of higher order but that is also illusion, and the highest and only true Light is the Light of Sach Khand, it is like a LED TV, Light of Sach Khand is the background illumination (just it does not travel, it IS), and time-space patterns (thoughts) reveal or block it in various degrees.

And this "And, it is it's own non-thing. Aetheric energies , you might say."... Like i said Light in its original form, is first expression that exists beyond time and space, face of God, of course that Light is not a thing but a non-thing. But it is NOT etheric energy. Read back for correct classification, we can talk about original Light, its expression as invisible primary energy currents light which are very close to gravity waves and final and lowest expression the herzian atmospheric light and heat.

And i have stated multiple times before, this is the reason life is possible on all planets no matter how far, cause there is no herzian loss of distance squared. Conversion happens in the atmospheres, where it's needed. And you repeat this too as if you said something new.

One significant minus to Oahspe is that it makes no mention of Atlantis altho it narrates Earth history of last 24,000 years. I have been trying to figure out for year the reason for such huge omission. Since Oahspe is undeniably real, i assume it is an intentional error to filter out all but most sincere seekers who will not be easily dismayed by apparent error, as it is often done when it comes to higher truths.

Oahspe is full of descriptions of starships propelled by singing of thousands of 'angels', that is, people of etheric spheres.

And the mess you made of gravity, facepalm. You truly have no idea what you're saying. Gravity is a fine term, it is not false nor misleading, altho i usually say something like "what you call gravity", it is a fine term if put in right context.

You foolishly write "The correct force is called Vortexia" altho i have been talking about Vortexia for years here (linked above to a post from more than a year ago) and altho i have been talking for years here about Earth's gravity VORTEX. Vortex is Vortexia, it is literally the same thing.

And where did i ever say or imply Earth's vortex is explosive, lol. I say CLEARLY always it is implosive, but what you do not know is that beyond the gravitational barrier (20,000 km beyond Moon orbit) it becomes REPULSIVE.

Now, as to implosive nature of the vortex i have written many times, last few pages back but you are not following

There is a cocoon of ether spinning around the Earth at 7C (7 times the speed of light) (Thiaoouba) and as it spins toward the west it spins the Earth toward the east (Tassel). And unlike the macroscopic matter, faster etheric cocoon spins more compressed it gets (Keely).

Important distinction here, in Kraspedon's book it is said it is important to always approach the planet in direction of its rotation (clearly implied and thus rotation of its etheric envelope), but in Tassel's book it is said etheric envelope spins in opposite direction and it spins the Earth (as also said in Oahspe), so clearly etheric envelope does not spin in same direction on all energy levels, coming back to Vela diagram of Tassel where it is clearly shown and written that nearby dimensions are of opposite polarity.

Quote from Keely whom i have been sharing here for years

"In the rotating envelopes force acts in the opposite direction to its action in the revolution of the earth, where the centrifugal action is greatest at the equator; and the greater the speed of rotation, the greater the centre-fleeing force. In the case of the etheric envelope, however, the greater the speed of rotation, the more powerful is the centripetal (centre-seeking) force which compresses the atoms within; the pressure, therefore, is greatest at the equator and gradually lessens toward the poles. If there were only one envelope, the tendency would be for the atoms to be oblate, to fly out at the poles, where the pressure is least. A beautiful provision of nature obviates this, by providing three envelopes, rotating one within the other, like three shells; the line of greatest internal pressure in each one of which being protected by the equatorial lines, the line of greatest pressure covering the line of least pressure on the others. Each of the three atoms is placed directly under one pole of each of the three envelopes."

http://www.rexresearch.com/keely/keely.html

Furthermore, it is NOT that banal and simplistic as you want it to be. While Earth's vortex is spiraling as i said many times, and it itself is very complex existing in many bands and dimensions, there are, as i clearly wrote countless times already, two VERTICAL streams, what is called "gravity" is a vertical magnetic lines of force pressing from space toward the center and there is an opposite negative flow superimposed over it at 1/3 higher frequency returning energy back to the Sun.

As i said countless times, first is positive order of energy manifesting gravity, light and heat and second is negative manifesting dark, cold and levitation.

I have also shared quotes from Elizabeth Clarer's book where it is said clearly in multiple places gravity is a push. All this you blindly missed. All this i have been saying for years here, 3 currents 1 spiraling around the Earth (vortex) and two vertical ones (gravity and antigravity).

So once again regarding the etheric envelope, while some have been mislead into thinking the etheric envelope is doing the pushing, fact is different, envelope is locally POLARIZING the omnipresent primary energy currents, making them flow in one direction - toward the center of the planet, first lower vertical stream being gravity and its faster vibrating sibling antigravity flowing in opposite direction.

And it is not any of these particular etheric streams that are a special or only source of overunity, they can ALL be resisted with proper means and various effects and energy levels harvested accordingly. As i said in previous pages (culling from Etidorhpa), primary energy currents can be resisted/slowed down into secondary forms of magnetism, light and heat, sound and matter, or can be resisted without producing any of these secondary effects, in that case gravitational field results. Gravity, non-inertial field is described in this chapter of Etidorhpa.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/eti/eti33.htm

Quote from Etidorhpa

Ϟ Ϟ All materials known to man are of coarse texture, and the minds of men are not yet in a condition to comprehend finer exhibitions of force, or of motion modifications. Pure energy, in all its modifications, is absolutely unknown to man. What men call heat, gravitation, light, electricity, and magnetism are the grosser attributes attending alterations in an unknown, attenuated, highly developed force producer. They are results, not causes. The real force, an unreached energy, is now flooding all space, pervading all materials. Everywhere there exists an infinite sea of motion absolute. Since this primeval entity can not now affect matter, as matter is known to man, man’s sense can only be influenced by secondary attributes of this energy. Unconscious of its all-pervading presence, however, man is working towards the power that will some day, upon the development of latent senses, open to him this new world. Then at last he will move without muscular exertion, or the use of heat as an agent of motion, and will, as I am now doing, bridle the motion of space. Wherever he may be situated, there will then be warmth to any degree that he wishes, for he will be able to temper the seasons, and mass motion illimitable, also, for this energy, I reiterate, is omnipresent. – Etiodrhpa Ϟ Ϟ

In short, nothing is as you think. There are 3 main streams that make up gravity vortex of which two are vertical. Learn to differentiate between herzian atmospheric light, gravity light from the Sun and original and only true Light etc.

NickZ · « **Reply #2799 on:** May 21, 2023, 04:39:35 PM »

nix85: Well, then. We seam to have an issue with just what "gravity" is, and if or not there is light in deep space coming to us all the way from the Sun.
As you may know, VISIBLE light diminishes by the square root of the distance from it's source. Therefore there is NO LIGHT in deep space, getting to our planet. Why is this important? Because we are told that light and heat come from the Sun to the Earth. That is not correct. And, there is no such thing as Gravity, at all. It is a misnomer, as it is being explained. There is vortexia however, which is not the same as a vortex, but it the POWER of the vortex, instead.
Nor is light coming to Earth all the way from the Sun, to warm this planet. Those facts are all wrong. Oahspe mentions this, which I do believe to be the truth. And is important to know, for those interested in building a free energy device. Which is what counts, here. As far as I know there is no light nor heat between the Sun and the Earth, outside the Vortex of this planet. And no such thing as gravity pulling in towards the Earth.
That is my truth, and opinion as well. As I know that we are being miss led, on purpose. I am not here to argue with you, as you seam to want to do. But, I don't agree with your idea about gravity, nor continuing to coin the term. Nor much of what the NASA keeps is telling us, as well, nor what is still being taught in schools, concerning these subjects. Every time I mention the above, I get shit on by the peanut gallery. So, last call on that one...
I recommend re reading that last post from OAHSPE, just posted by nix85. Keep in mind this has nothing to do with religion, nor with "BS, but with truth, instead. You will not hear about that information, anywhere else. Which are all objective facts, not just mans subjective points of view. Anyway, I've said what I needed to say. And thanks to nix for that last post from OAHSPE, quoting about what causes and manufactures our so called SunLight. Which are not just Nick's ""simplistic and banal" ideas....so take it for what it's worth. However, I am not here to be insulted, either.
And so, I feel that I'm dealing with the wrong guys, here, and is why I have not posted on this thread, at all lately.
But, it looks like Wesley is out to lunch, and I took advantage of that. Sorry to say. I really hope that he is doing well, considering what is going on.

NickZ

pix · « **Reply #2800 on:** May 21, 2023, 05:21:32 PM »

This topic became contaminated by esoteric BS. $:-\$

NickZ · « **Reply #2801 on:** May 21, 2023, 05:32:46 PM »

pix: Perhaps you don't get the point. However, if you have something to show, or tell. Please do so.
There is nothing "esoteric" about the production and manufacturing of light, and how it relates to free energy discussions and replications.
In any case, I will take my leave from this thread. And leave it to you pix, and Nix85, to carry on with more pertinent information.
I would not want to bore you.

NickZ

nix85 · « **Reply #2802 on:** May 21, 2023, 06:20:31 PM »

After these illuminations, some more about contactees and abductees cause it is important you gradually become aware of ET presence and interactions. As it was told to real contactee Robert L. in 1969.

"Federation had contacted about 300,000 people on the planet at the time."

https://colinandrews.net/UFOs-FrenchFarmer-TakenByAgreement.html

By today millions have been contacted, possibly billions. Number of reports is so large it cannot even be approximated, Albert Rosales alone collected more than 25,000 real contact cases, almost 17,000 pages of which i have joined into one giant pdf here.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/5kt9n9finaj1zxp/HUMANOID_ENCOUNTERS.pdf/file

Few more out of infinity of cases

Walter Rizzi, encounter in the Dolomite Mountains, Italy, 1968

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ms8ZDOJT4w

Full report

https://www.mediafire.com/file/2kmbemoh6jipy4i/Rizzi%252CUFOs_1968%252CItalian_Dolomites%252CFSR80V26N3.pdf/file

Abduction of a whole family from England by Janos People who emigrated from Earth many thousands of years ago.

https://galactic.to/rune/janos2a.html

Regression of Pier Zanfretta 1979. who had contact with reptilian humanoids, they told him they wanted to be friends with humans and he replied that is not possible cause they are too ugly, drawing below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46YqoG4YkA

In 1980, architect Oscar Zamorro and his judge friend saw a bigfoot flying saucer pilot in the Chilean Andes.

Although the article immediately jumps to ET assumption, there is an equally good chance that this is one of the terrestrial bigfoots, not all of them are primitive. PS the burnt grass below indicates a relatively primitive type of drive using microwaves. More advanced races do not leave such traces.

https://pasteboard.co/8ndkMmNUeGa6.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnb6x1liL4I

Another true case, it is highly recommended to read full report below, not just this summary.

Location. Aveley Essex England
Date: October 27 1974
Time: 2210

John Avis, 29, his wife Elaine, 25, and 3 children, were driving home to Aveley, traveling southward along Hacton Lane and the Aveley Road when they saw an oval pale blue light to their left. This light traveled with them, and presently crossed the road in front of them, about 500 yards away. About a mile further on, they suddenly came upon a bank of thick green mist covering the entire road, 8-9 ft high. At this moment the car radio started crackling and smoking, and John pulled out its wires. The car's headlights went out, and they entered the mist. In the mist "it was very light," and they felt very cold; there was a dead silence. After what seemed like a second or two, there was a jolt, and the mist was gone; the car was now half a mile further along the road. Elaine's first impressions were not until it had traveled another half mile. One of the children was still awake, and the other two still asleep. When they reached home, they found that the time was not about 2200, as it should have been, but about 0100A. Three hours had somehow been lost. After this, numerous odd things happened to the family, among them a nervous breakdown before Christmas that forced John to give up his job; also, John, Elaine, and two of the children all gave up eating meat, and John and Elaine gave up drinking alcohol. John, a heavy smoker, gave up smoking completely. There have been disappearances of articles in the house, a loud droning noise frequently heard after midnight, and clicking noises heard in the living room and bedroom, with other phenomena. The telephone acted peculiarly, etc. On one occasion one of the children claimed he saw a "man" standing beside his bed dressed "like a clown." John had seen a UFO on a highway in 1968, which had made the lights and engines of several cars fail, causing a collision to occur; also, just before or just after the green mist incident, he had seen by daylight a large cylindrical silver object pacing an aircraft. John had "odd dreams" from which he could remember being operated on, "or something similar," by "gnomes;" Elaine could remember a dream in which she was lying on an operating table, with a person of small stature in a white coat standing beside her. Later Elaine remembered John, herself and one of the children standing beside a car in a large room with curved walls. Walking around machinery were men in gray one-piece suits. Inside another room, containing the operating table, was "a small ugly looking person." Later while John was under hypnosis he remembered that as the car entered the mist, he found himself in a big room where tall "peaceful" beings, in one-piece colorless suits, told him not to worry about the children. They had pink eyes and communicated by telepathy. They put him on a table and ran a "honeycombed" bar like instrument, 10" by 30", over his body. He asked where they came from; they showed him "a map but not a map", and gave an explanation of which he could remember only "Phobos." They travel, he was told; almost instantaneously;" they explained how, but he could not understand. A small being was present; it had fur like covering and made chirping sounds; it served the tall beings. In a second hypnotic session, John remembered that when the car entered the mist, a white beam cut through it, and lifted the car. The next thing he knew was that they were in a very large room. Here an "examiner," "smaller than us," with big eyes and a mouth "not like ours", examined him. The tall beings had no visible mouths. Their propulsion system used a magnetic "vortex." He encountered only 3 of these beings, and only one communicated with him. When asked the reason for the being's visit to Earth, he replied, "No visit, they are here always." Asked where they came from, he said, "There was no need for them to say," and that they have no need to return home; "they have more than one base," he said. After being brought out of hypnosis, he said that at this point he felt prevented from saying anything more.

Humcat 1974-94
Source: Andrew Collins, FSR Vol. 23 # 6
Type: G

Full report

https://www.mediafire.com/file/twu8j4bt3fay4so/Collins_Abeley_Abduction_1977.pdf/file

Mass Contacts

https://www.mediafire.com/file/abwrrowtm4p9w4u/Mass_Contacts.pdf/file

Abduction of policaman Herbert Schirmer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UbDgwOKz4

USAF Colonel Robert Friend, former director of Project Blue Book (the first major project of the US government to systematically "study" UFOs from 1952-1969, a total of 12,618 UFO reports were collected - of course, numerically 99), recounts the incident from In 1959, when he attended a briefing where a retired rear admiral had information about a woman in Upper Maine who had allegedly made contact with extraterrestrial beings

You can watch it https://youtu.be/6CJdUA8LQg0?t=1986

And here is the transcript....naval intelligence officers were sent to investigate, they met with the woman and she fell into a trance, supposedly would make contact with the supposed extraterrestrials, and then she was asked scientific and technical questions that a woman of her education could not possibly know the answers to, but when the questions were asked she answered them easily with the seemingly telepathic help of these alleged extraterrestrials.

According to the report, she stated that there is an organization OEEV aka Universal Planetary Association and that this organization has a Euenza project which means Earth that was being implemented.

Then an unexpected twist occurred, one of the naval officers was informed by the woman that the aliens were willing to answer questions directly through him - a naval commander and intelligence officer, but with no previous experience in telepathic communication. He took over and tried to write the answers to the questions put to him by his fellow naval officer.

Word quickly traveled back to Washington officials at the highly skeptical CIA, but there was no reason to fully believe the report of this highly regarded naval commander. He was asked questions such as whether you favor one government, religious group or race and whether there will be a third world war - the answer to both questions was no. The group then asked if he could see the spaceship and the commander, still in a trance, told them to go to the window and he would have proof, the group went to the window where they allegedly saw a flying saucer with the perimeter brighter than the center. Friend was told that they called for radar confirmation and the answer came back that that quadrant was blacked out on the radar at that time.

After Friend was informed of all the details he asked the commander if he would try to contact him, he sat for a few minutes and then seemed to go into a deep trance with his Adam's apple moving rapidly up and down, he was asked questions and he he responded to them by writing in rather large letters in a quick but jerky motion, not at all like his natural hands. During the interrogation, they learned the names of some of the so-called extraterrestrials.

AFFA—Uranus
KRILL—Jupiter
ALOMAR—Mercury
PONNAR—Mercury (wanted to leave human race alone to stew in its own juice.)
ANKAR—Centaurus

In George Hunt Williamson’s book, THE SAUCERS SPEAK! we find some interesting correlation with the Commander’s contact. Williamson was reporting on his 1952 contact by radiotelegraphy and telepathy. He included contacts with AFFA of Uranus, ANKAR-22 of Jupiter, and PONNAR of the planet Hatonn in Andromeda.

More about the case. Among other things, it was stated (another in a series of confirmations) that the Canadians used the scientific aspect.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ra_material/secrets_ufo05.htm

NAIROBI, KENYA CIGAR UFO 1951.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/nairobi-kenya-cigar-ufo-1951/

This subject is literally infinite, there is infinity of true cases, infinity of materials to study.

nix85 · « **Reply #2803 on:** May 21, 2023, 06:24:39 PM »

It is not surprizing that he sees all this is "esoteric bs". Cold shower awaits him (and similar).

nix85 · « **Reply #2804 on:** May 21, 2023, 08:47:47 PM »

@NickZ You are again making ridiculous statements, as if you have not read what you are replying to, yet you repeat what i said but in a wrong, confused way.

No, we do not have an issue with just what "gravity" is. As i have been saying for pages and for years here, universal currents that flood all space are the origin and destination of all forms of energy and matter including gravity and antigravity. To quote again from A Spacewoman Speaks by real contactee Rolf Telano (you better read it)

"Einstein and some of your other advanced thinkers now realize that the various forms of energy with which you are familiar: light, heat, gravity, electricity and magnetism, are merely different forms of the same force. This primary energy flow, which permeates all space, is so high in frequency that they can only postulate it. It has no characteristic which will register on their physical senses, or on any instruments which they can devise. It is imperceptible until modified in some manner, just as electricity is imperceptible until you introduce some modification, such as resistance, inductance or capacitance.

In this, as in any other solar system, the sun is the focal point of these primary energy flows. Contrary to popular opinion, the sun is neither hot nor luminous. Its radiations are these same characterless primary energy flows. These are converted into lights heat, cosmic rays, and other forms by certain elements in your own upper stratosphere. The sun does radiate sufficient energy to produce the temperatures, which your men of science compute, but the actual conversion into heat is not accomplished at the sun. It only appears so due to the fact that you are seeing it trough your "conversion zone."

And as it is written in Kraspedon's book i already quoted many times

"Lastly, we have the energy that exerts pressure upon the Universe and penetrates our systems of galaxies, of which I spoke to you earlier. As a body cannot be subject to pressure in all directions, the Earth always shielding it from this pressure on one side, the body feels a difference in the forces acting upon it and falls to the surface of the Earth. This tremendous universal pressure, which is the result of the vibration of God on the infinite point of the Universe, is what maintains the atmosphere of the planets."

So, as clearly said, the sun is the focal point of primary energy flows (also called universal currents). Sun is redistributing them to planets and moons and these primary energy currents are focalizing on planetary neutral centers pressing all matter downward. This is gravity.

You write "As you may know, VISIBLE light diminishes by the square root of the distance from it's source.", firstly you wrote it wrongly, it's not square root of distance but square of distance, and that is something everyone knows, and in the very post you are replying to i wrote

"And i have stated multiple times before, this is the reason life is possible on all planets no matter how far, cause there is no herzian loss of distance squared. Conversion happens in the atmospheres, where it's needed."

Think before you reply.

Then you repeat "there is NO LIGHT in deep space, getting to our planet" again repeating what i have been saying for pages and for years that light is an atmospheric effect, that herzian light and heat are created in the upper stratosphere and that they come from the sun in form of primary energy currents aka gravity waves.

Obviously that is important cause we are told sun is emitting herzian light, that is so obvious it does not need to be stated.

Then you ridiculously again claim "And, there is no such thing as Gravity, at all. It is a misnomer, as it is being explained."

Again, there is very much so such thing as gravity. Name itself is not a misnomer, obviously official model of it is 100% wrong.

There is gravity very much so, like i said many times before, gravity is a stream of primary energy currents, magnetic energy flowing into the earth from space and as i said THERE ARE TWO VERTICAL STREAMS, gravity and superimposed over it at 1/3 higher frequency antigravity.

It seems you are incapable of getting this no matter how many times i repeat. There is not just a vortex but two vertical streams, and i have been saying this here for years.

Then you again ridiculously repeat "Nor is light coming to Earth all the way from the Sun, to warm this planet" and "there is no light nor heat between the Sun and the Earth, outside the Vortex of this planet"

as if you are saying something new, you again repeat what i have been saying here for pages and for years.

And for your claim "And no such thing as gravity pulling in towards the Earth"

i already explained why it is wrong. Due to lack of power in your 'searchlight', due to the fact you have based your whole view on Oahspe only, you lack all the key details and true understanding. There is gravity streaming vertically into the Earth pushing everything down and there is its polar opposite.

Obviously 'we' are being mislead, that is, public is being mislead and owned by those who know what i know of which you know only little fragments at best.

And no, i do not want to argue with you which you also wrongly assume, since you write nonsense, i have to correct you, that is all.

You don't agree with my idea about gravity cause you got your blinders on and thus don't agree with the Truth, like i said, you are getting few bits and pieces but you don't get most of it, huge amount of key information and understanding is totally missing from your awareness.

You're welcome, it is my pleasure to quote from book of Truth, Oahspe, but altho it is good you recognize Oahspe you have sadly not studied other key sources so your views are indeed "simplistic and banal" and that is not an insult but simply facts.

As for overunity, like i said, primary energy currents come in a wide band with most diverse phenomena, from gravity, antigravity, to thoughts, vitality and lifeforce. All these and more belong to this other, higher spectrum. Neither of them is particularly special for overunity, all are source of overunity, all can be resisted and stepped down with proper means.

Cookie	Origin	Persistency	Information and Usage
ecl_auth	overunity.com	Expires after 30 days	This cookie contains the text "EU Cookie Law - LiPF cookies authorised". Without this cookie, the Forums' software is prevented from setting other cookies.
SMFCookie648	overunity.com	Expires according to user-chosen session duration	If you log-in as a member of this site, this cookie contains your user name, an encrypted hash of your password and the time you logged-in. It is used by the site software to ensure that features such as indicating new Forum and Private messages are indicated to you. This cookie is essential for the site software to work correctly.
PHPSESSID	overunity.com	Current session only	This cookie contains a unique Session Identification value. It is set for both members and non-members (guests) and it is essential for the site software to work correctly. This cookie is not persistent and should be automatically removed when you close the browser window.
pmx_upshr{NAME}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records your display preferences for the site's Portal page if a panel or individual block is collapsed or expanded
pmx_pgidx_blk{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the page number for the site's Portal page if the page for a individual block is changed.
pmx_cbtstat{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the expand/collapse state for a CBT Navigator block content.
pmx_poll{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the id for the current poll in a multiple Poll block.
pmx_{fadername}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the state for a Opac-Fader block.
pmx_LSBsub{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the current category and the state for a static Category block.
pmx_shout{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the current state of a Shout box block.
pmx_php_ckeck	overunity.com	Page load time	This cookie will probably never see you. It is set, if a Syntax check on a PHP block is initiated and will be deleted if the function executed.
pmx_YOfs	overunity.com	Page load time	This cookie will probably never see you. It is set on portal actions like click on a page number. The cookie is evaluated on load the desired page and then deleted. It is used to restore the vertical screen position as before the click.

1	We are aware that Google uses additional cookies it stores on your PC and when you browse our site and all other sites. These are used to target advertising and Google currently does this without seeking your permission. Four of these cookies we know about are named "rememberme", "NID", "PREF" and "PP_TOS_ACK" and are stored in Google's cache on your computer.
2	If you are accessing this site using someone else's computer, please ask the owner's permission before accepting cookies.
3	Your browser provides you with the ability to inspect all cookies stored on your PC. In addition your browser is responsible for removing "current session only" cookies and those that have expired; if your browser is not doing this, you should report the matter to your browser's authors.
4	We regret and apologies for any inconvenience this causes to members and guests who are accessing our web site from outside the European Union. It is not currently possible for us to interrogate your browser and obtain geographic location information in order to decide whether or not to prompt you to accept cookies.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

News:

User Menu

Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion (Read 856337 times)

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

NickZ

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

worldcup

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

lancaIV

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

NickZ

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

NickZ

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

pix

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

NickZ

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

nix85

Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum