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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2775 on: May 19, 2023, 01:30:04 AM »
"As an Engineer" : ) Do you really think that title has any real worth or relevance. You witnessed and was asked to verify real FE device, so what. Again as irrelevant and worthless as the title. You don't see it differently, you just don't see it.

That you try to explain it away as "sensationalism" only further shows how desperately you try to downplay/dismiss the whole thing. But in vain, quotes are very clear, no sensationalism (altho i surely don't deny sensationalism in newspapers old and new, this is not such case). And reporters did not "imagine" anything (you sleazily try to imply they were hallucinating or lying), and it does not matter what they understood, only what they OBSERVED and reported what neighbours and officials OBSERVED.

Sure trees are somewhat conductive and may be seen as 'antennas' in a way, but they clearly said light seemed to come from the ground, not the trees.

Besides, show me a house and all its surrounding "lit up like daytime" using ordinary Tesla coil electrostatic induction/ionization and i will be more than happy to admit your opinion is possible or even likely.

But you cannot and will never be able to since that is impossible. Day-like illumination can only be produced by lighting (which lasts around 30 microseconds only) or non-herzian higher order types of energy which Stubblefield liberated from earth and air (ether).

"Whole hillside that would blossom with light"..."lit up like daytime".

"Light seemed to come out from the ground itself"

"Many heard very loud and unfamiliar noises coming from the whole area surrounding his cabin"

"Interior of the cabin was toasty warm"

"Officials found two highly polished metal mirrors which faced each other, radiating a very great heat in rippling waves"


These quotes speak clearly these are no ordinary electrostatic induction/ionization effects.

And you have grabbed onto the light outside like a drunkard onto a plot, you totally forgot the "unfamiliar noises" and two mirrors "radiating a very great heat in rippling waves". Nothing conventional can explain any of this, nothing.

"What light, how much, not from the trees but a whole hillside?. Lit up like daytime, in the daytime, lol?... it smells like bullshit" no, what you write is bullshit. It says clearly "Whole hillside that would blossom with light"..."lit up like daytime". So that implies day like illumination at night, clearly.

It sounds like bullshit / ordinary corona discharges to you cause you desperately try to bring things down to your level. But in vain for forces infinitely larger than you permeate everything and some learned to tame those forces to various degrees, things that are totally beyond your comprehension and even conception (you once did believe in this higher spectrum according to your older posts, but have lost faith).

And "atmospheric energy" is not bs either, even if we take only the conventional side, harnessing electrostatic charge. Photo of 13 feet aka 4 meter extra thick spark from Alpean atmospheric energy harvester, 1928. It says voltage was around 2 megavolts and sparks occured each second for 30 minutes. That is huge amount of energy.

https://overunity.com/18848/plausons-converter/

Arthur. C. Clarke was a great writer but with 100% conventional 'science' views, in other words, he knew nothing about the occult science. All 3 'laws' are correct but you are not following them for you do the exact opposite, instead of venturing into the "impossible" you try to explain the "impossible" away / downplay it to what is widely known.

No, you don't understand you are not in agreement with me based on your last posts. I have been saying here for years that supershort HV pulsed DC impulses aka disruptive discharge and scalar interferometry (cancelation/bucking of herzian waves) are methods to produce longitudinal aka scalar aka gravity waves. But Tesla coil secondary full wave rectified produces fullwave rectified half sinewaves, that means slow rise time, not the way to go. It may or may not produce higher effects, one wants sudden, disruptive high rate of change (squarewave) pulses. So your claim is wrong.

And what you say further reveals that you, as i predicted even before you wrote the post, refer to Zenneck aka surface waves, i know perfectly well these waves are not technically herzian, as they are longitudinal in their nature, but they belong to same order of energy, they are limited to C or below and even worse they are limited to solid medium, they cannot even propagate in air, let alone in vacuum of space.

Zenneck waves are phenomena for themselves and have no relation to these higher etheric phenomena. They are not same order of energy.

And no, that was not Tesla's main objection to the notion of Hertz waves, Tesla was not referring to Zenneck waves. Tesla waves are true scalar waves, do not require solid medium to propagate. As Gerry Vassilatos discovered in his research of Tesla's research into Radiant Energy, this other/higher spectrum has whole array of effects, from transfer of energy at distance without loss, to heating and cooling, to causing pain or pleasure, increased vitality/wakefulness to physically moving objects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xCioBFZ5h4

And according to Gerry's book Lost Science there is a report that Tesla indeed made an antigravity platform.

"Nikola Tesla observed and described the action of such staccato electrostatic impulses on matter in Colorado Springs; particularly on the levitation of dust particles. He later described a heavier than air ship which he said was entirely driven by electrical energies, lacking propellers or jets. There are those legendary reports by those who claimed to have seen this device in operation which have surfaced. An elderly gentleman, the son of a local rancher, described what his father claimed to have seen one night several miles from Tesla's experimental station in Colorado Springs.

Tesla was seen standing on a platform, surrounded by a purplish corona, some thirty feet above the ground. The contrivance had a small coil aft, and was entirely covered underneath with a smooth surface of sheet copper. The platform was perhaps two feet in total depth, being crammed with components. Tesla strode over to the platform, stood before a control panel, and whisked aloft in a crown of white sparks. The excessive sparks subsided with increased distance form the ground, often arcing to metal fencing. Tesla went out of his way to avoid the numerous metallic ranch fencing beneath his aerial course.

What originally attracted the rancher out into the night air was a stallion who had become spirited by the strange buzzing craft.. It was said the Tesla often delighted in soaring through the night air for hours each night.. He was dressed in his characteristic garb, sans top hat.. Tesla became enthralled with the operation of his flying platform, traveling to great distances. Tapping energy directly from his Magnifying Transmitter, the device had an unlimited range. Others had witnessed these strange midnight journeys across the ranchlands."

And as he says in his 1900 patent "Method of signaling"

"The improvement in the art of transmitting electrical energy which consists in operating or controlling a receiving mechanism by a series or group of electrical impulses of different periodicities and of a predetermined order of succession.

Broadly stated, this invention consists in generating two or more kinds or classes of disturbances or impulses of distinctive character with respect to their effect upon a receiving-circuit and operating thereby a distant receiver which comprises two or more circuits, each of which is tuned to respond exclusively to the disturbances or impulses .of one kind or class and so arranged that the operation of the receiver is dependent upon their conjoint or resultant action.

By employing only two kinds of disturbances or series of impulses instead of one, as has heretofore been done, to operate a receiver of this kind I have found that safety against the disturbing influences of other sources is increased to such an extent that I believe this number to be amply sufficient in most cases for rendering the exchange of signals or messages reliable and exclusive"

He is apparently referring to phase conjugate aka scalar wave generation, using two emitters presumably 180° out of phase, by which he managed to increase the range and privacy of the signal, but which also requires special scalar receiver.

These waves don't have anything to do with surface waves which are lower, herzian order waves, no matter if they are transverse or longitudinal. Tesla waves, Stubblefield waves, Keely waves, Rota waves, Hollingshead waves........ are true cosmic waves, akin to gravity and antigravity, waves that emanate from the center of the galaxy and the Sun, these are higher orders of energy that belong to what Rota called Universal Currents and they are superluminal (C+).

As for UFO sighting i had 3 of my own 10 years ago, in short, it was summer, around 9PM, i went at the window and looked up (since back then i really wanted to see) and there it was, white ball of light at what i assume was about 1km height in cloudless starlit sky. It glided for circa 15 sec toward east at moderate speed and then it shot up at 45° and disappeared in second or two. Next two days it came back, and it came down way lower, like 10m above nearby beach next to an illegal camp.

You call bullshit cause you do not understand. You got lots to learn.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2776 on: May 19, 2023, 02:11:11 AM »
What kind of waves are illuminating the gas discharge inside the tube and how is this done.

"If you can answer it" funny.

As i wrote before and as everyone (hopefully) knows high frequency high voltage electric field is exciting the gas atoms causing them to emanate photons as electrons drop back to normal energy state.

What kind of waves, it's ultraviolet em radiation that hits the phosphorous coat and makes it emit visible light.

I am clearly describing a fluorescent lamp lighted by Tesla coil. If we talk ordinary "plugged" fluorescent lamp then obviously electrons do the work, result is the same, electrons of atoms are excited and as they fall back they emit ultraviolet.

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« Reply #2777 on: May 19, 2023, 09:00:09 AM »
What kind of waves are illuminating the gas discharge inside the tube and how is this done.

"If you can answer it" funny.

As i wrote before and as everyone (hopefully) knows high frequency high voltage electric field is exciting the gas atoms causing them to emanate photons as electrons drop back to normal energy state.

What kind of waves, it's ultraviolet em radiation that hits the phosphorous coat and makes it emit visible light.

I am clearly describing a fluorescent lamp lighted by Tesla coil. If we talk ordinary "plugged" fluorescent lamp then obviously electrons do the work, result is the same, electrons of atoms are excited and as they fall back they emit ultraviolet.
I think you mean the unknown 'waves' have an effect on mercury vapor in the tube but since it works
on Led's then perhaps not, but doesn't that clue tell you something else other than copy and past has not ?  :D

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« Reply #2778 on: May 19, 2023, 10:05:26 AM »
What Hutchison did is really great, as you'll find out one day (he's not ake).

If only to count the Hutchison Battery, which, according to John, work on the Casimir effect, that is, on the energy of quantum fluctuations, or propagation of time in our world. But it is not exactly. Hutchison's media activity raises doubts about the seriousness of all this.

Ultrasonic levitation of water drops in the standing wave nodes is a joke, hardly worth of mention.
Powerful ultrasound or even a powerful loud sound of tens of kilowatts in a relatively small volume is the only correct explanation.
Here is not powerful but.. Tractor Beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyyiMwRDvQ

In Art Bell interview 2003. above he reveals his first setup from '79

3 tesla coils, 7.5khz, 14mhz, 5mhz
RF generator 455khz
VDG 500kv

Oh yeah, maybe Hutchison was repeating a mantra, reciting a spell and waving a magic wand, like Harry Potter? It is necessary for a good show!
Imagine the honest sizes of Tesla coils at 7.5 kilohertz, 5 megahertz and 14 megahertz.

His wife's channel with many old videos of Hutchison effect

https://www.youtube.com/user/NancyLazaryan/videos
Nancy Lazaryan Hutchison
https://www.tiktok.com/@lovehigherdimensions/video/7218997560969694510

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« Reply #2779 on: May 19, 2023, 05:32:09 PM »
I think you mean the unknown 'waves' have an effect on mercury vapor in the tube but since it works
on Led's then perhaps not, but doesn't that clue tell you something else other than copy and past has not ?  :D

Sil

As i said countless times, original form of energy from which all lower forces originate including gravity and antigravity are universal currents aka primary energy flows / waves so obviously that includes the ultraviolet herzian light.

As i have written here https://overunity.com/19090/just-another-don-smith-thread/msg566237/#msg566237

These primary energy currents cascade down into lower expressions in following order, their first child is magnetism and what is called gravity is a form of magnetism.

"Magnetism > electricity > electromagnetism > sound > matter. Reverse is of course possible, unification of two or more lower forces generating the higher one. For example colliding two gamma rays produces an electron-positron pair etc."

In leds exactly the same thing, but doesn't that clue (that primary energy currents are source of ALL) tell you something else other than copy and paste has not ? :D

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« Reply #2780 on: May 19, 2023, 05:35:17 PM »
If only to count the Hutchison Battery, which, according to John, work on the Casimir effect, that is, on the energy of quantum fluctuations, or propagation of time in our world. But it is not exactly. Hutchison's media activity raises doubts about the seriousness of all this.

Hutchison Battery is of little importance and little power. His main work is in noted effects, levitation, transmutation, disitegration etc.

Hutchison is a tinkerer, his 'theories' are not to be taken literally. And if he said his battery work is about "energy of quantum fluctuations, or propagation of time in our world" that is correct, nothing incorrect about that.

So don't you say "not exactly" as if you know cause you don't. And his media activity does not "raise doubts about seriousness of all this", it matters not the least if he is active in media or not, if he is a crossdresser or not. ALL that matters is that effects he produced mainly in the 80s are real.

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Powerful ultrasound or even a powerful loud sound of tens of kilowatts in a relatively small volume is the only correct explanation.
Here is not powerful but.. Tractor Beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyyiMwRDvQ

No, that is not an explanation. Obviously ultrasound is used, but key point is water droplets are trapped in nodes of standing waves, and whole effect is is hardly worth of mention.

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Oh yeah, maybe Hutchison was repeating a mantra, reciting a spell and waving a magic wand, like Harry Potter? It is necessary for a good show!
Imagine the honest sizes of Tesla coils at 7.5 kilohertz, 5 megahertz and 14 megahertz.

That is a silly and weak attempt to dismiss the real effects he produced. His equipment can be seen in his early videos and nothing shady about given values.

His wife's channel with many old videos of Hutchison effect

https://www.youtube.com/user/NancyLazaryan/videos

John Hutchison 1987 Lab RAW footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49O-PIvuobs

As he said in 2002. Art Bell interview he peaked at 22 tons of equipment.

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« Reply #2781 on: May 19, 2023, 08:00:35 PM »
Wooden bowl falls to the left and then up

https://youtu.be/9rd-iQhhr3o?t=821

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« Reply #2782 on: May 19, 2023, 10:05:50 PM »
Gennady Fedorovich Ignatiev has replicated a work of Tesla, he has build a life size replica of Wardenclyffe Tower and more importantly made a device that lost 6kg using 10kw (very inefficient). It was two 4m long tesla coils at 90 degrees with 90° phase shift to create a rotating em field (vortex in the ether). He also authored the paper Ignatiev, G.F. and Leus, V.A. (1999) On a Superluminal Transmission at the Phase Velocities.

Frolov's summary

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ignatyev.htm

And Ignatyev's report (linked at the bottom of previous link)

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ign-pap2.htm

Gennadyev's great lecture where he describes how rotating EM field and its poynting vector is gravity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn7qO7F8sOc

Article reproduced from

https://salik.biz/articles/51481-ponderolet-ignateva-nikomu-ne-nuzhnyi-rabotayuschii-antigravitacionnyi-dvigatel.html

Gennady Fedorovich Ignatiev, a physicist from Krasnoyarsk, who for a long time headed the design bureau of the rocket and space direction (TsKB Geofizika). Laureate, among other things, of the Lenin and State Prizes, space consultant and academician. Author of many still "secret" inventions.

At the end of the 90s, Ignatiev founded a laboratory in his native Krasnoyarsek, which deals with an interesting and well-known phenomenon - the Umov-Poynting effect. In short, the essence of it is that antigravity forces arise from the interaction of magnetic and electric fields. Professor Umov introduced the concept of energy flows of elastic bodies at the end of the 19th century, and a little later, Poynting supplemented these studies for electromagnetic interactions.

In 1996, at a conference in St. Petersburg, Ignatiev presented a report on the development of an experimental model of a new engine using "old principles", as Ignatiev himself liked to say. With a size of about four meters, the installation created a lifting force capable of lifting six kilograms of cargo. And this is when consuming 10 kW of electricity. The installation itself weighed about thirty kg, so the model could not fly. But, with an estimated size of about forty meters and a lifting force of three hundred kilograms, the installation could fly.

Of course, the main drawback of the design was immediately visible - it needs a powerful source of energy, the weight of which interferes with the main task. But Ignatiev believed that by improving his invention, he would be able to overcome this factor. Gennady Fedorovich never kept secrets from his research. In his laboratory, diagrams, drawings and explanations of the mechanism's operation were hung on the walls. He also never hid that he drew ideas from Nikola Tesla - even the coils placed at the ends of the device are Tesla coils.

Like many great minds before him, Ignatiev "paid" for his research. He was fired from the institute for unscientific activities: students, citing calculations on the work of a ponderolet, proved that the speed of light is not the limit. Since then, the scientist began to pursue failures - a daughter who died in a strange way, a son's suicide, a stroke that made him disabled, and then a second one that killed the inventor.
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« Reply #2783 on: May 20, 2023, 12:15:43 AM »
And some more on cosmic/metacosmic illumination. Firstly the spiritual truth, quote from here

http://www.santmat.hu/en/issue/message-love/final-path

"After emerging from the dark void, the Maha Sunna, the soul reaches that inner level known as Bhanwar Gupha (Whirling Cave) in the terminology of the eastern mystic adepts. This is the fourth inner realm above the physical plane, and it is a region of spiritual substance with the admixture of very little matter. As the soul progresses onwards, it crosses a high luminous pass above a vortex of spiritual power known as the Hansni tunnel; then it enters the massive entrance of the glorious Rukmini tunnel, and there it beholds an incredibly beautiful structure. The radiation from this structure impinges upon the sight of the soul, and thereby causes the soul's nirat (power to see) and its surat (power to hear) to attain complete consummation and true peace."

What is important here is the fact that power to see and hear transcends time-space creation. In the ultimate state, heaven if you like, perception of light and sound remains. Now consider that. Light and sound are not physical phenomena, they do not belong to any level of creation no matter how far above this level. This is why we hear from Keely and contactees like George Hunt Williamson that Light does not travel, Light IS. What appears to travel is a vibrational pattern that reveals the static and eternal Divine Light which Hebrews call Ohr Ein Sof (Infinite Light). Likewise the sound.

And now few quotes from Beyond the Light Barrier by real contactee Elizabeth Klarer.

The spaceship silently settled to the rooftop, its shining surface untarnished by the vast distances it had traveled or the atmosphere of planets. The ship moved beyond the velocity of light, as Earth people understand it, and in so doing it overcame the power of the universe. It annihilated the fathomless seas of space in its swift passage through time, going with the pressure force of the universe—gravity—and attaining the higher octaves of resonance by the absorption of light itself. Thus it annihilated the light barrier.

"A mathematical formula for all transportation lies in the vibratory frequencies of the light harmonic, with antigravity waves and time waves—which are simply the frequency rate between each pulse of the spiral of light. By controlling this frequency rate, the flow of time can be varied, and one simply moves within one's environment, within the protection of the spaceship, instantaneously from one planet to another, or one solar system to another. Time, as a geometric, is controlled or eliminated."

"And the speed of light, is that also a geometric?" I asked.

"We speak of the measure of light, not of the speed of light. Light gives the illusion of velocity, when in reality it is a pulse resonating in the frequencies of time and gravity. Thereby, our galaxy is created to the universal geometric harmonics of light—light is a universal geometric. Time and gravity, or a reversal in the flow of time and antigravity, can be achieved by altering the energy of light pulsing through space, through the atmosphere of planets, and throughout all creation, as micro-atoms of light form the atoms of all gases, liquids and solids."

"As I mentioned before, the unified differentials of light interact to create a vacuum encircling the spaceship, and it moves without sound or the restriction of speed as the molecules of atmosphere are pushed aside instead of piling up in flight. In space, the unified field of light creates a shift in space and time. No velocity is involved—there is only a shift in frequency as the spaceship vibrates in harmonic resonance to interact with the wave energy of light pulsing throughout the galaxy. It simply uses the fabric of space itself, which is light, vibrating in waveform frequencies in alternate pulses of matter and antimatter. Thereby we overcome the problems of space travel beyond the light barrier."

"Earth scientists still have the restriction of the sound barrier in atmospheric flight. Perhaps they will discover that there is no restriction that causes the sonic boom if they can perfect an aircraft that pushes aside the molecules of air instead of allowing the molecules to pile up against the craft."

"vibrating in waveform frequencies in alternate pulses of matter and antimatter" he said, confirming the Iargan model in which it is clearly said that matter of matter and antimatter universes like a diode or a sprocket wheel captures the opposite polarity of one timewave, so the pulses they capture are always 180° out of phase. In case you don't get it, i repeat, one single timewave-sinewave moves them and matter captures only positive pulses and antimatter negative, altho talking of positive and negative is relative since it depends on perspective. Read the Iargan model, learn the actual mechanics of Creation.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/6-axis-of-time/

As for frequency of gravity, which i am sure many would like to know, this is what Meton told to Elisabeth. So those who claimed gravity frequency is infrared (like Stefan Marinov etc) were wrong.

We need to understand the light of the universe. The eternal truths of life await our perception and consciousness in the realization of seven dimensions, where humankind is not unique. Then we will be able to traverse these parallel waves, where spaceships traveling in curved space can meet and fuse at a moment in time that is a point where all lines come together.

The answer to space-flight propulsion has been solved by Akon's civilization. The mathematical formula to control gravity has been in use within their spaceships for eons, and light emanates from these great starships as a secondary manifestation of gravity waves. They have discovered its nature and its magical properties, and have worked out a formula to harness its energy for the benefit of their civilization. Gravity waves radiate outward from the nucleus of our Milky Way galaxy, interacting with all forms of matter, keeping the stars and planets in their places by pushing them outward in the everlasting circle of speeding light that forms the vast rotating lens of our galaxy.

Gravity is the push from the hub of the flattened spiral of the cosmic storm that is our galaxy. These waves are oscillating at frequencies thousands of megacycles beyond the visible light spectrum. Due to this high frequency, their general force is attractive, and electromagnetic waves react with the electrical charges and currents created within the field differentials of the spaceship's propulsion systems.

Light exists throughout our galaxy, interacting harmonically with the electromagnetic waveform, the tempic geometric and the resonating, binding force of gravity—the forces of the universe that form the unified field of cosmic energy. Earth scientists still have trouble measuring it, and do not seem to be aware of this, yet this is the basis of all life throughout the universe. Without the unified field, we would all fly apart and end in chaos.

Expansion of thought will come in the wavelength of time when the insight of humankind has reached a deeper and more spiritual level. At the present time, they are exiled on a speck of a planet out on a limb of the Milky Way galaxy, isolated in the cosmos, not knowing what they are or how they originated. Wholeness is attained within a star, a planet, a spaceship or flying saucer. A complete circle retains the wholeness of the universe or galaxy in which we all have our being. Only by becoming whole oneself, as a minute particle of the universe, can one give form to that inaccessible reality known as truth. The collective unconscious of this world is no longer in tune with the universe. The practice of religions in the East and West only continue out of habit, and they have ceased to produce any results.

Overwhelming masses of people swarm over the surface of this planet, creating an image of quantity without quality. This submerges the individual, who alone must think thoughts that are capable of transforming this world. The individual is in danger of perishing in a mass produced world where all are alike and think alike. In nature, all forms of life are different, retaining their own individual patterns of behavior and thought while remaining a part of the universe. The vibrations of nature weld all life into wholeness, as individual particles contribute to the wholeness of the atmospheres of planets.

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« Reply #2784 on: May 20, 2023, 12:46:12 AM »
More reports that confirm Hutchison matter fusing effect (not really his effect but a natural principle, part of higher science known to all advanced intelligent beings everywhere and everywhen, this is ancient Earth science as well), quote from Science of Oneness, there are many examples for this matter-fusing effect in the book, i will quote just one.

"Sabrina recounted stories that she had heard from a friend of hers in Oklahoma where a tornado had passed through, and part of the body of a cow had become fused into the wooden walls of the barn that it had been staying in. Since the effect was frighteningly fatal for the cow and the farmer did not want to attract attention or notoriety, this fact, like so many other similar tornado anomalies, was simply covered up....In the high-energy rotating fields of the tornado, matter is brought to a higher vibrational state where it temporarily changes phase and is able to pass through other matter."

https://www.mediafire.com/file/gus8if5mh6vh8b7/%2527Science_of_Oneness%2527_pdf_-_Sandrelli.net.pdf/file

Also reminds of Philadelphia Experiment where crew became fused with ship's walls.

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« Reply #2785 on: May 20, 2023, 01:18:34 AM »
Before the fall of the Berlin Wall,
David Copperfield played the resonant frequency of the wall on a large speaker and walked through it
In front of millions of people and live on international television


I should say “a resonant frequency”
The actual frequency was never disclosed

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« Reply #2786 on: May 20, 2023, 02:15:42 AM »
12 dimensions of our local sector called Vela by our brothers of other planets as shown to real contactee George Van Tassel. Note that polarities of interpenetrating dimensions/levels alternate (this is the fish sign of Jesus, interlocking circles, Vesica piscis, symbolising that this plane/dimension interpenetrates with astral ones (higher and lower)).

Note also that lowest dimension is closest to the highest!

Quote from his book Council of 7 lights

"Densities are the levels or grades through which creation progresses. Thought is the activating force. Thought is the image of the Creative Intelligence. Progression is a reward for effort expended in creative thought. Through thought the Creator established a pattern through which all things must pass. The people of the Earth and this solar system are all in the same boat at present. There are various levels or decks in this space boat. There are visible partitions between these different levels. The first class passengers in this solar boat are not the wealthy people, nor the intellectuals of the system. The steerage is not occupied by the poor or the illiterate. Everything in this boat is mixed up. The Creator didn't make it this way, the mix-up is due to the doings of man. Earth people are dominated by individual and mass ego. Nearly everyone thinks he is better than others. Now progression is upward, and when one looks down on another he must lower himself to see the other. When one sees the good in others he automatically raises himself. The Creator established densities to control these conditions. The Third density, where these things exist in the triangle of confusion, is about all finished. Humans on Earth are going to have to conform to the requirements of the Fourth density, or take this grade over again. The requirement to pass is to live the Golden Rule. Not to profess it, or expect others to live it, but to live it individually, as you are only responsible for yourself. The drawing represents one of the "flowers of the universe". The Vela Sector System is only one of the Creator's thoughts. There are twelve densities in the system we occupy. Each of these is divided into twelve major cycles. Each major cycle is divided into twelve minor cycles. When a solar system moves out of one density into another, it is called a master cycle. The solar system that we are in is now in the arc between the Third and Fourth densities. For the planet Earth and this solar system, this is the time of times. The Earth is culminating a minor cycle, a major cycle, and a master cycle all at the same time. This will bring about a rebalancing of the planet on new poles. When this occurs, the great earthquake written of in Revelations will take place."

This is the same ancient archetype (lemurian) 12 petal/vortex flower of life. 12 around 1.

And from the real contactee group Mission Rahma we hear about 12 dimensions of life, 7 'physical', 3 mental and 2 spiritual.

"There are multiple Universes, but we can essentially synthesize them in three Universes, one contained within the other: the Initial or Primordial Universe, which is the Internal, is the so-called Spiritual, Essential or Original Universe. This has generated the Mental Universe, also called Eternal or Intermediate. And this in turn has created the Material, Physical or External Universe. Each acts through the other. The Material Universe encompasses the first 7 Dimensions, inhabited by the Evolving Ascendant Beings. The Mental Universe encompasses Dimensions 8 to 10, inhabited by Ultraterrestrial Beings known as the Hellel or Resplendent. And the Spiritual Universe encompasses Dimensions 11 and 12, where the Almighty One God rests."

Who wants to know the real history of Earth, from Mission Rahma. In the coming years it will be confirmed each and every thing written here is actual Earth history.

https://prophecyofanrrom.blogspot.com/2020/10/chronology-of-all-times.html

Mission Rahma video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CglK9EEthw

Bentov shows same 12 dimensions of consciousness

Also very important occult book A WANDERER IN THE SPIRIT LANDS by Francezzo, quote about arbitrary division of 7 (usual division) or 12 (not so common) of higher astral spheres around the earth, home of the discarnated. Time at lower ones is synched with our time while on higher levels time is very different. For more Nosso Lar (book and movie Astral City) etc.

"I have heard the spheres divided differently by different spirit teachers, and it is not very important that they should be all divided by the same standard, since these divisions are very similar to mapping out a country where the boundaries melt so imperceptibly into one another that it is not very essential to have the limits defined with perfect exactitude, since the changes in the countries and the people will of themselves mark their different states as you progress on your journey. Thus, then, some will tell you there are seven spheres and that the seventh means the heaven spoken of in the Bible; others say there are twelve spheres; others again extend the number."

http://www.luminist.org/archives/Farnese%20-%20A%20Wanderer.pdf

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« Reply #2787 on: May 20, 2023, 03:31:13 AM »
The edge of Earth's vortex is shown in last picture above and one below, ancient literature called it Chinvat Bridge and by our neighbours from nearby planets it is called magnetic barrier or edge of Earth's etheric envelope, all these and more terms refer to one and the same thing, most precisely it can be called gravitational barrier or edge of Earth's gravitational vortex. Beyond that edge Earth's gravity becomes repulsive. ALL sources agree this edge is just beyond the orbit of the Moon, precisely around 20,000 km beyond as i have said many times already and as i said also many times already, no one leaves this edge alive without his own gravitational field, even when discarnated, unless lower passions are overcome. If one attempted to do it without his own gravity bubble the craft with his dead, crystalized body would continue moving by inertia while his astral and higher bodies would be sucked back into Earth's etheric envelope and he would again become one of countless billions of discarnated spirits/humans in the astral spheres. That much about Elon's rocket to Mars. When one is approaching vortex of any planet it must be in same direction of rotation, otherwise it would be an equivalent of smashing into a wall at great speed.

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« Reply #2788 on: May 20, 2023, 04:11:09 PM »
And we landed in esoteric matters.... :o

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« Reply #2789 on: May 20, 2023, 08:44:55 PM »
  Nix85:   You have posted information from the book called Oahspe. The name means, Earth, Air, and Spirit.  It is a channeled book with 1000 pages of pure and impartial knowledge, and information about many things. It can be downloaded, if interested from the internet, for free. It is in my opinion of massive importance, today. Even though it was written in 1880, or so, when the typewritter was first invented. It is not someones personal "opinion" of reality.

   I have for some years tried to explain in simple terms why so called SunLight, does NOT come from the Sun. And just what does manufacture light on each and every planet. As light, is not dependent on material substance, either, like "dust".  And, it is it's own non-thing. Aetheric energies , you might say.
   Nor does light "travel", nor is there something actually "traveling" at the so called "Light Speed" . And why this is all so very important in the search for free energy. As neither heat nor light actually come to us from the Sun, at all. Nor does the proximity to the our Sun have anything to do with the temps of those different planets, per say. And much much more...in the above mentioned book, OAHSPE. The creators of the word,  StarShip. 


    Sorry Wesley, I didn't mean to post this on your thread. I know that you probably won't agree with most of it. As none of it is common knowledge by our current scientists, nor is it taught in our schools.  For a reason...  And it's not a good reason, at that. Same reason as to why they don't mention Tesla, in school, either.  And try to discredit his Aether theory, as BS. And the many other things that he came up with such as his free energy car, and flying platform, etc.


   NickZ