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Exotic is relative and in the eye of the beholder.

Obviously exotic is relative, and obviously exotic relative to the "norm". I already said many times over the years that this other, higher spectrum of non-herzian radiation and all its "exotic" effects, gravity control, telepathy etc, all these things are normal for advanced beings, but for you they are exotic so i will keep referring to them in such manner. Most of you people don't even believe/see there is this other spectrum, only rare rare dare to even talk of longitudinal em waves, cold electricity, degravitation etc. Whatever it is you desperately try to explain it in terms of herzian waves. So many chose self-imprisonment, most extreme limitations, when it is so simple to realize that scalar interferometry and disruptive discharges liberate higher non-herzian forms of energy (there are other methods / ways to amplify it). But your blinders are so thick, so extreme, it is highly unlikely that you will ever see. It would do you all good to just finally accept there are two spectrums, neutral and herzian, neutral also has positive and negative character, positive is coming from the sun and manifests gravity, light and heat, negative is reflected from the Earth at 1/3 higher frequency and manifests antigravity (levity), darkness and cold, passing through you right now. This is the Maxin light, this is the cold breeze on top of the head once kundalini is activated, this is why there is always drop of temperature in presence of ghosts and astral phenomena as well as artificial gravity fields (first reported by Keely), this is negative energy, the other side of things. That is the secret of Atlantis, and its discovery meant there was no longer need for unwieldy wings and fuel reservoirs. For nature supplies all that is needed for one who's got eyes to see, while brute goes brute force against nature and he is a prisoner of his own blindness.

The Casimir effect of confining a given EM wavelength in between the plates could cause plates tuned near that frequency to oscillate in themselves. Just as a guitar string begins to oscillate at it's resonant frequencies.

I know perfectly and have known for many years what Casimir effect is. What do you think is the source of pressure between the plates i referred to but difference due to pressure of whole spectrum of vacuum fluctuations outside the plates vs a reduced spectrum in narrow space between them thus they are being pushed together. As i said force is extremely small (10^(-6) N) or smaller. It can be compared to a guitar string or even better to any resonant cavity.

I'm not saying this is what was happening only that every effect must first have a cause. Even more interesting is that if the plates were tuned to or near the gap frequency and did oscillate it could have a modulation and/or pumping effect. Now were talking about parametric effects which could maintain the oscillations. Why make it difficult when it seems easy enough to understand?.

If the device was in fact radiating "heat" then we know which part of the EM spectrum this should occur. We find the microwave band falls right next to the infrared band, both known to cause external heating effects. Coincidentally, the transition from microwaves to infrared occurs near the the 1mm wavelength. 1mm tolerances are well within our capabilities so again this doesn't seem that difficult to understand. I see very little I would consider exotic and it seems pretty straight forward. I mean, this is a walk in the park compared to most FE devices...

AC

Obviously every effect has a cause but no, Casimir plates don't produce any heat, the mechanical energy they generate is so tiny it is barely measurable, let alone to produce energy to heat a house.

You, like most, are 100% imprisoned in herzian thinking, you try to explain higher forms of energy as herzian waves.

I know perfectly well heat is transferred as infrared herzain radiation (~1mm), but you again forget (since you are 100% imprisoned in the false herzian thinking) that it must be microwaves if transfer of heat is in question. No! Tesla was allegedly able to heat and cool whole rooms with radiant energy!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xCioBFZ5h4

This other, higher spectrum can do anything herzian waves (lossy and inefficient) do and far far more.

You see very little you would consider exotic, lol. You see very little, that part is correct. Read the quotes again.

Later Investigators entered his land area and found heavy wires leading from the roots of trees. To these wires were attaches small arc lamps, hung in the trees. These were extinguished. They imagined this to be the explanation of his hillside sunlight. Their hasty analysis proved problematic from stories which witnesses report.  The warm and diffused sunlight which came from the ground itself around his house was not localized in specific lamps.The light came from the ground, not from the trees as before... a" whole hillside that would blossom with light"... "lit up like daytime". These observations indicate that Stubblefield had managed indeed the direct conversion of earth energy to light and warmth. This would acceptable, were Mr. Stubblefield simply working on a newer form of drawing electricity from the ground to light small arc-lamps; a feat which he had accomplished earlier. But  these kind persons could never find any evidence of arc-lighting or any other form of known lighting anywhere near the area. In their own words "the light seemed to come out from the ground itself".

In addition to ground sunlight effects, many heard very loud and unfamiliar noises coming from the whole area surrounding his cabin. What could this be? Had he managed to directly transduce the natural impulses of the ground energy into audio?

His last claim two weeks before is death was made to a kind neighbor: "The past is nothing. I have perfected now the greatest invention the world has ever known..... I have taken light from the air and earth.... as I did sound".

Neighbors had not seen Nathan for several days. As they were worried about his health, they attempted to call on him. The lock was secured from the inside. It was a lonely, cold and rainy March day when old friends and neighbors broke the lock on Nathan's cabin and entered. He had passed away in his bed, the probable victim of malnutrition and fatigue. They all noticed that the interior of the cabin was "toasty warm", as if heated by a strong fire. Moved to locate the source of this heat, town officials found " two highly polished metal mirrors which faced each other, radiating a very great heat in rippling waves" This is a great discovery. It fulfills what Nathan reported in his last testimony.

https://rense.com/general96/stubble.htm

For you, it is VERY exotic and not straight forward, for me and others who have deeply studied this other spectrum it is normal. These are surely not herzian waves.

You have no way of explaining how two polished metal mirrors facing each other (at non-specified distance, they might be meters apart) radiate intense rippling waves of heat. So don't claim to know or understand when you don't or that it's "walking in the park" when you cannot produce such results even on a much smaller or any scale.

@onepower Well done, nothing but more blindness and irony was expected. "So many fallacies", HA! You're talking about yourself. How bout you point out a single supposed "fallacy" like i have pointed out yours. And you missed the point, as usual. All i wrote is true, but too much for your CPU. Diatribe is all yours and it was indeed entertaining to read. Stubblefield's effects are "walk in the park" for you, you say. I am sure you already heat your house with Casimir effect.... carry on.

PS don't forget to list a single "fallacy" in anything i wrote, like i listed many of yours.

exotic non-herzian effects.

Hutchison

Wow, Hutchison. Super!
But why does he wear a hat indoors and why does he build boxes of thick plywood for his experiments.
And what he could borrow from old military submarine for this.

Underwater sonar, or "The Last Thing You Hear":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj-Wn-di-zM

Ultrasonic levitation with very low power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHgVVT8xLQI

Can Ultrasonic Waves Dissolve Metal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmoPc7l9qg

Multiple devices at work at once, Naval SONAR, RADAR, High power microwave, Audible Sound / Audio, ultrasound, and Radio broadcast in the FM/AM band:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27rmc1

...... eversince he's a crossdresser 

In past he had many YT channels, all brought down!

His YT channel as of today - https://www.youtube.com/@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519/videos

something you might like -

free energy power cell i used to make for clients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFHNyDC-qA

Free. Energy unit japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwVqWS8nRM

Free energy unit japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMoxBz0s1H0

and this guy INVENTOR3 and john k hutchison are good friends  https://www.youtube.com/@INVENTOR3/videos

and lot's more...cat's whiskers...nanocoated wafers....resonance ...

far too much information !

I already shared this many times over the years

https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg561845/#msg561845

but people don't pay attention and even when they do they forget very very fast.

And i made a good point there totally debunking the supposed limitation of speed of light.

"I was watching something about Tesla and scalar waves (rather Keely's waves) today and i thought of the false speed of light limitation. Conventionally, only space itself can expand or contract at C+ but suppose you have a wire from here to Mars, it takes light 20 minutes to reach Mars, yet how long would it take the physical signal to reach Mars if you pulled the wire, yes, it would be instant. If that is too far for you to practically imagine, take Moon, 1.3 light-seconds away."

To recap. There is nothing new about gravity control on this planet, there have always been certain secret orders/brotherhoods (white and black) with so called flying saucers, all these millennia while men was slaughtering his brother with cold weapons, those Adepts mapped the world from orbit, held meetings on the Moon etc.

In mid 19th century certain rare inventors stumbled upon the principle of degraviation. One example are these two reports from 1897. which clearly speak of same dark bearded captain flying around with his wife and son at night, who inherited the principle from his late uncle.

I don't have the scan of the first article, but thankfully sketch of the ship from the article did survive, it is reproduced here PG 22 http://www.ignaciodarnaude.com/ufologia/FSR%201967%20V%2013%20N%204.pdf

Like i said before, and as can be seen witness for the first report is ex-senator and for the second one sheriff and a deputy. There can hardly be more respectable witnesses. It should be clear to anyone intelligent that this is absolutely real and that degravitation was perfected in 1870. exactly as claimed by the dark bearded captain. You can only imagine how the world would look today 153 years later if uncle did not decide to selfishly hide the invention.

Date: April 22 1897 01:00 AM
Location. Harrisburg Arkansas
Source: Modern News April 23, 1897

—In Arkansas, an aerial visitor settled to earth about two hours after the Barclay contact. In its April 23rd edition, the Harrisburg, Arkansas, Modem News, gave the following account: '"The airship of which we have read so much of late has caused considerable comment but no one ever dreamed that it would ever be anchored in Harrisburg. Wednesday night (April 21) Ex-Senator Harris was awakened about 1 o‘clock by an unfamiliar noise, and upon taking a peep out he spied a peculiar looking object in the west. Instantly he thought of the wonderful airship which had so mystified the people of the west during the past few weeks, and hurriedly dressing he took his field glass and went out in the yard where he could get a good view.

‘The first sight through the glass satisfied him that it was a wonderful airship. As the object came nearer he could discern the shape, but in few seconds it came so near that he threw down his glass. The mysterious flyer paused and gradually descended to within a few feet of the ground and only a short distance from Mr. Ham's' yard. Mr. Harris says there was an elderly man, a woman and two young men on board. The old gentleman wore a heavy set of dark, silken whiskers, which hang down near his waist. He had jet black eyes and a deep firm expression. Mr. Harris said he walked out a little nearer and hailed the old gentleman. The old man seemed a little surprised when he spoke, not expecting to see any one out at that hour of night, but he spoke pleasantly, and after taking on a supply of fresh well water. he said: “‘Well. you seem to be a very clever man, and if you will promise not to divulge my secret in a way to do me harm I will tell you the whole story, except how the effect is produced.’

After receiving satisfactory assurance, he continued: ‘ you remember about 26 years ago (in the St. Louis papers) an account of a scientific invention made by a gentleman whose name I will not mention. by which the laws of gravitation were entirely and completely suspended? He was offered big sums of money for it by several syndicates in this country and also had large offers from parties at Paris, London and many other places. During the time he was considering these offers he had the invention securely locked in a safety deposit vault in New York City. Before he had accepted any of the offer he was taken violently ill, and after lingering a few weeks died, leaving his invention in the vault. This man was my uncle and he has partially confided the secret to me but not sufficiently for me to do anything without the original invention.

After the lapse of about 19 years I managed to secure the original and having plenty of money at my disposal and having devoted my time and talent during the past seven years to experimenting, I have an airship which is almost perfection but I am not quite through experimenting, and so I continue to travel at night to keep from being detected. I will make an attempt to visit the planet Mars before I put the airship on public exhibition. Weight is no object to me. I suspend all gravitation by placing a small wire round an object. You see I have a 4-ton improved Hotchkiss gun on board. besides about ten tons of ammunition. I was making preparations to go over to Cuba and kill out the Spanish army if hostilities had not ceased,but now my plans are changed and I may go to the aid of the Armenians. To use this improved gun we only have to pour the cartridges into a hopper and press a button and it fires 63,000 times per minute.

No, gravitation is not in my way. I place my wire around this 4-ton gun and hold it out with one hand and take aim. Oh, I could place my anti-gravitation wire around the national capital building and take it by the dome and bring it over and set it down in Harrisburg as easy as I could an ink stand. Distance is almost overcome: why we came over the chunks of Dallas at 12:10, less than an hour ago, and we have traveled very slowly. I could take breakfast here, do my flopping in Paris and be back here for dinner without inconvenience, as soon as I get my new propellers completed.‘ ”He said he must be ofi before anyone else was disturbed and invited Mr. Harris to take a ride with him, but he kindly declined the offer. He bade Mr. Harris adieu and floated up and drifted away to a place among the stars and in a few seconds was hid beyond the darkness of the night.

Date: May 6, 1897
Location: Arkansas, near Hot Springs
Source: Racine Daily Journal

The two witnesses, a constable and a deputy sheriff who were investigating some recent reports of cattle rustling in the area, provided the following account of their experience:

While riding northwest from this city on the night of May 6, 1897, we noticed a brilliant light high in the heavens. After riding four or five miles around through the hills, we again saw the light, which appeared to be much nearer the earth. We stopped our horses and watched it coming down, until all at once it disappeared behind a hill. We rode on about half a mile further, when our horses refused to go farther. Almost a hundred yards distant, we saw two persons moving around with lights. Drawing our Winchesters, we demanded, "Who is that, and what are you doing?

A man with a long, dark beard came forth with a lantern in his hand, and on being informed who we were, proceeded to tell us that he and two others-a young man and a woman-were traveling though the country in an airship. We could plainly distinguish the outlines of the vessel, which was cigar-shaped and almost 60 feet long, and looking just like the (sketches) that have appeared in the papers recently. The young man was filing a big sack with water about 30 yards away. The woman was holding an umbrella over her head. The man with the whiskers invited us to take a ride, saying that he could take us where it was not raining. We told him we preferred to get wet. Asking the man why the brilliant light was turned on and off so much, he replied that the light was so powerful that it consumed a great deal of his motive power.

He said he would like to stop off in Hot Springs for a few days and take the hot baths, but his time was limited and he could not. He said that they were going to wind up at Nashville, Tennessee after thoroughly seeing the country. Being in a hurry, we left. Upon our return about 40 minutes later, nothing was to be seen. We did not hear or see the airship when it departed.

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God knows what happened to dark bearded captain and his ship. If he tried to reach Mars as he claimed he would try even if he made it to the orbit of the Moon he faced certain death when penetrating the gravitational barrier of Earth's vortex about 20,000km beyond the orbit of the Moon for no one passes the barrier alive without his own gravitational field and this ship was only degravitated (like early Vailixi of Atlantis), it did not have it's own gravitational field, at least not a strong one and thus it was not capable to support life outside the Earth's vortex.

No. You unwisely try to downplay this to well known hf hv electrification and no, coronal discharges from tips of plants cannot light the whole area as if it is day time, not even close.

These are not herzian waves and it is not only difficult, it is absolutely impossible for you to replicate.

We all know oscillating electric field especially at high frequency can ionize gases in neon tubes as can power lines and make plants and objects charged and have coronal discharges at tips, due to difference of potential between ground and area above them (does not have to be air).

At high freqiencies due to skin effect (eddy currents canceling out the current inside the conductor) conduction layer becomes very thin, this is why man can be "electrocuted" by high frequency Tesla coil without any harm as demonstrated by Tesla and later by Bernays Johnson who also degravitated a small airship with what he called "Z-ray" of very high frequency.

Blue corona discharges from tips of objects where electric field is strongest and thus ionizes air (comb used in VDG) and how coronal discharges happen also due to thunderstorms etc, all this is well known and none of it explains Stubblefield's effects.

You clumsily try explain this with rectified hv output of Tesla coil but it does not hold water. Stubblefield did not electrify the ground plane and light up bulbs as in these herzian ordinary Tesla coil effects. He made the ground itself (not tips of plants) emanate light and sound and liberated large amounts of heat from polished mirrors. Quote

The warm and diffused sunlight which came from the ground itself around his house was not localized in specific lamps. The light came from the ground, not from the trees as before... a" whole hillside that would blossom with light"... "lit up like daytime"...In their own words "the light seemed to come out from the ground itself"...In addition to ground sunlight effects, many heard very loud and unfamiliar noises coming from the whole area surrounding his cabin..."The past is nothing. I have perfected now the greatest invention the world has ever known..... I have taken light from the air and earth.... as I did sound"...They all noticed that the interior of the cabin was "toasty warm", as if heated by a strong fire. Moved to locate the source of this heat, town officials found " two highly polished metal mirrors which faced each other, radiating a very great heat in rippling waves"

These are non-herzian effects and belong to higher orders of energy.

The effects Stubbfield produced are normal and easy for us who studied the higher non-herzain spectrum in depth, but for you they are absolutely exotic and fantastic and totally beyond your comprehension and possibility of replication. That you desperately try to downplay them to herzian effects only further shows it is so.

Everything has a logical and reasonable explanation if one's willing to look into it properly and deeply, not try to fit what you don't understand into your stupid little box. You did not explain anything and you are 100% incapable of reproducing these effects. I already explained how scalar waves are produced and anyone can do it... so learn and do it.

Nix85
As an Engineer who has actually witnessed working FE device(s) and was called upon to verify many FE inventor/phenomena I see it differently.

For example,

Later Investigators entered his land area and found heavy wires leading from the roots of trees. To these wires were attaches small arc lamps, hung in the trees. These were extinguished. They imagined this to be the explanation of his hillside sunlight.

Most of these supposed investigators in the past were reporters having no understanding of electrical phenomena. The same reporters who wrote sensationalized articles to sell more newspapers, ergo vested interest/zero credibility. The wires to the tree roots makes sense to me as tree's are mostly water which is a better conductor than dry wood fiber or earth. In effect it's like connecting a wire to the base of an antenna. However what the reporters imagined or not 100 years ago is a mute point because they didn't understand much of anything that matters like we do.

Their hasty analysis proved problematic from stories which witnesses report.  The warm and diffused sunlight which came from the ground itself around his house was not localized in specific lamps.The light came from the ground, not from the trees as before... a" whole hillside that would blossom with light"... "lit up like daytime".

What light, how much, not from the trees but a whole hillside?. Lit up like daytime, in the daytime, lol?... it smells like bullshit I have heard countless times and it doesn't add up. It's more likely the reporters 100 years ago were seeing corona effects in the evening or night they didn't understand and sensationalized it to sell more newspapers. My favorite is the "atmospheric energy" thing most reporters claim which the actual inventor never claimed was the source of energy. Here's a clue, most reporters are paid near minimum wage and don't understand anything about the thing there supposed to be reporting on. There actual job is to sell media to promote the sales of advertising, ergo most are shills.

These observations indicate that Stubblefield had managed indeed the direct conversion of earth energy to light and warmth. This would acceptable, were Mr. Stubblefield simply working on a newer form of drawing electricity from the ground to light small arc-lamps; a feat which he had accomplished earlier. But  these kind persons could never find any evidence of arc-lighting or any other form of known lighting anywhere near the area. In their own words "the light seemed to come out from the ground itself".

Personally I follow Arthur. C. Clarke's laws...
The laws are:
1)When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2)The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3)Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

These are non-herzian effects and belong to higher orders of energy.

Here I'm not sure you understand that I'm already in agreement with you based on my last posts. Technically a HV impulse of extremely short duration is not a Hertz wave or follows the structure of a Sine wave. It's nothing like a Sine/Hertz wave and is similar to a Soliton wave having completely different properties. In this case not only is it not a Hertz wave by definition but also follows the ground plane versus the atmosphere unlike a Hertz wave. In effect, this was Nikola Tesla's main objection to the notion of Hertz waves and he claimed the "spectrum" was much larger than anyone supposed.

Here's the thing, about ten years ago I saw a UFO pull what I calculated to be 100G accelerating to beyond 60,000 mph in one half second. The person next to me saw the exact same thing as well so my theory is 99% of people don't really understand a fraction of what they claim to. Otherwise we would have a reasonable explanation for all these anomalies but we don't therefore I call bullshit.

AC