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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1147137 times)

r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2640 on: May 24, 2023, 09:50:17 AM »
Stefan just wants more work on the forum  :)  -20 post off please  ;D

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2641 on: May 24, 2023, 11:51:40 PM »
Stefan just wants more work on the forum  :)  -20 post off please  ;D

Yes, I have deleted several postings and have set some members on moderated, so I can see, what they postbefore their postings go live to stop the flame wars....
Please come back to a real discussion.
We dont have the time anymore to further foul around.
We are just standing shortly before the 3rd World War and we still dont have a well working overunity device that
is easy to replicate...
Please ALL dont waste our time with fighting over here.
I also dont have the time to moderate it  anymore and I might just put the forum soon on Read Only mode...and have the forum only as an archive...
As I am too ill to handle all this BS anymore...I really must care now about my health and dont have the time anymore for this...
I also rather want to work on my Youtube channel to get it to 100.000 subscribers now, than to care about BSpostings over here now.

Regards, Stefan. ( Admin).

worldcup

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2642 on: May 29, 2023, 10:35:09 AM »
Dmitry Maksimov, made this new YT channel since his old YT channel was/got deleted..

125 The principle of Roman’s Kornouhov Tariel’s Kapanadze systems is now available to everyone

https://youtu.be/LnpkcTJWzZ0?t=411

More discussion on the video https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4466.msg104745#msg104745

seychelles

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2643 on: June 18, 2023, 03:54:42 PM »
WELCOME BACK STIVEP. I HAVE BEEN MISSING YOUR WISE COMMENTS AND GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2644 on: June 18, 2023, 05:08:39 PM »
Hi Wesley,please no more politics over here !!!

We are standing just at the brink of a 3rd World war and don't need to stiffle it over here...

Also as Chet already said, we want to have Overunity to be made as a reality,so your old text books view don't fit here anymore...

Read again the emails I did send you about the principle, how Zografos defied the Carnot limit...
And this was proven by the famous Physics Max Planck Institute:

https://www-hellagen-gr.translate.goog/apo-tin-ellada-tha-xekinhsei/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

So Wesley, please don't reverse my statement on the frontpage what Chet already quoted..


Many thanks for understanding.
Regards, Stefan.

stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2645 on: June 19, 2023, 01:55:16 AM »
Zografos defied the Carnot limit...
With all pros and cons we need to take to consideration opposing comments  and make  analysis by yourself .
 Mr.  Petros Zografos  can be seen form perspective of  critical view at first,

I'll try not to make judgement.

All positive  you can read by yourself  and I will point at critics stand point.
 so the first  is the article :
http://rexresearch.com/zogrifoselectrolysis/zogrifos.html
Than go  little lower in the article  and read:
QUOTE:[ Excerpt ]
"I found a bunch of nonsense claims in the internet, about the resonance frequency of water helping to split bonds.":
 read  that part that is supported by link:
https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8642/how-does-high-frequency-electrolysis-of-water-work
I can make A COMMENT WITH ANALYSIS OF THE COMPONENTS USED  that are presented on the pictures too.

Carnot limit.../theorem  is explained  here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot%27s_theorem_(thermodynamics)
Carnot theorem is a proof by contradictionreductio ad absurdum (a method to prove a statement by assuming its falsity and logically deriving a false or contradictory statement from this assumption)
-so it is a method and nothing more than that

that can be translated to:
Carnot efficiency
https://news.mit.edu/2010/explained-carnot-0519

According to Carnot limit.../theorem
striking is for some readers that this what they think is reachable is not technically possible as of yet and may never be possible too.
The best example of analysis, that you can apply to many revelations including Petros Zografos as well will be metallic Hydrogen shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMfPNUZzG_Q&t=798s

Wesley
« Last Edit: June 19, 2023, 01:10:20 PM by stivep »

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2646 on: June 19, 2023, 07:23:43 AM »
Welcome back Wesley.

Sil

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2647 on: June 19, 2023, 08:09:18 AM »
The electron has been orbiting the nucleus of an atom for billions of years. It is a perpetual motion machine.

Evil tongues say that an electron does not lose energy during its rotation.  Because and rotation. Right?

r2fpl

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2648 on: June 19, 2023, 08:22:37 AM »
Wesley  :D

stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2649 on: June 19, 2023, 11:23:50 AM »
Evil tongues say that an electron does not lose energy during its rotation.  Because and rotation. Right?
Welcome back Wesley.

Sil
Wesley  :D
it is my pleasure to see you again guys. Thank you ..thank you ...
Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2650 on: June 19, 2023, 03:34:15 PM »
Hi, Wesley! Nice to see you here again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeqBJ7WGa4

stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2651 on: June 19, 2023, 04:48:14 PM »
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Thank you for  posting in this place.
Nice to see you again.
I can't comment on subject in question  - I'm not in Administration.
Wesley

stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2652 on: June 19, 2023, 09:28:43 PM »
The electron has been orbiting the nucleus of an atom for billions of years. It is a perpetual motion machine.
is the electron motion in the cloud around nucleus - perpetual motion ?
The answer is: NO!!!!!

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electron is not a perpetual-motion machine because we cannot extract energy from it without causing it to drop to a lower orbital state, and once the electron reaches the Bohr radius, no energy whatsoever can be squeezed out.
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg22029404-900-quantum-question/
NOTE: Perpetual motion is rejected by science - so is perpetual motion  machine. Patent office rejects all applications talking  about it.

How  do electrons move in cloud:
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Generally atoms' electrons do not move in anything like the classical sense
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Electrons actually don't orbit the nucleus.
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This is a model that simplifies things. The most correct model of the atom that we have today is the Schrodinger model.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/188102/does-nucleus-itself-has-its-own-motion

Summary:
Bohr atom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model
-from year 1913 is to be blamed for  all of confusion.
Although it is still convenient with its "planetary  structure" it is good for education of kids
and talks to some not skilled in art  adults  who are not always very old.
Today we have  year 2023 not 1913  ...
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More of  the explanation to your  concern about  Kapanadze  will be in the next  comment
unless  audience formulates   requiring query in  area of atom and electron motion .

Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2653 on: June 19, 2023, 10:59:07 PM »
PART#1
Can we summarize what we know about Kapanadze and try and figure him out.
BTW I do NOT agree with your theory that he is receiving transmitted energy from one of his associates.

Analysis from the Historical Perspective:

Energy must have its origin.
Device of Kapanadze  I examined in Tbilisi Georgia (Europe)
must be powered from energy that comes outside of his device.

Talking about energy :

Audience and  Stefan are still in hope to get something for nothing.
Means : someone  decides to  donate his intellectual property to the public "energizing"  the crowd.
That someone  is a source from a surroundings you are waiting for.

Tariel Kapanadze was talking about energy from surroundings (around us..)
So if you can point  at exactly that place and that form of energy  from 
Kapanadze statement  you can have his device working on your table ready to use - tomorrow.

Bunch of guys for several years  were  unsuccessful likely due to  lack of  logical thinking.
None of them pointed at :
what this energy in Tariel Kapanadze device comes from  and  how it is converted to electricity?

It is not a shame to be a loser but indeed - the losers gave up,  started to fight and  accuse each other  .
I was trapped in this mess and my willingness to cooperate  was in  conflict with some members activity.
At the end I said goodbye to this forum  but now I'm back - since yesterday,

In the  meantime   SR, Akula, Ruslan, Adrian Guska, and others started to deliver  "visual "( youtube)
evidence of  them having similar devices.. Only Ruslan is  alive from that group as far as I'm aware.   
The rest of them are gone forever - in Russia.  -By the way historical facts are facts - not politics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo
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I pointed and I think  nobody else apart from me till today pointed  at :
what this energy in Tariel Kapanadze device comes from  and  how it is converted to electricity?
So if some of you spend money made nothing blame yourself -for lack of education   in area of concern  too.
 
If someone is  interested with my activity  here is one of the examples of it:
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=107

-in the next comment I'll explain more:
Wesley
« Last Edit: June 20, 2023, 01:12:02 AM by stivep »

a.king21

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #2654 on: June 20, 2023, 03:02:31 AM »
OK Wesley, Let's put it another way.
The atom has been vibrating for billions of years. Therefore it is a perpetual motion machine.