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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 976088 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1065 on: January 15, 2019, 09:51:29 PM »
Hi Wesley. You seem to be taking people's natural hesitance against jumping to conclusions
about these sorts of things personally, but it is not personal at all. For myself, not wanting to jump
to any conclusions about this sort of stuff comes from long experience.

I am actually not ruling out what you have been saying at all in regards to Earth surface/ground waves
of low frequency as being the possible source of extra energy in these setups. I am thinking about
it and trying to see how it might work. The fact that Frank Wyatt Prentice seems to possibly have done
something similar to that approach in 1923, makes me think it may be possible.  See the attached
Prentice drawing again. 

The top 'Transmitter' section has a long 800m approx. wire a short distance above the ground
and a sparkgap at the end near the end grounding point. The sparkgap may cause disruptions/disturbances
in the ground underneath which may draw in energy into the long wire from low frequency waves in the Earth
and thus increase the energy on the long wire by a factor of about 6 when it was all tuned properly.
The small receiving loop is tuned to the transmitter frequency and receives this 'amplified energy' from
the long transmitting wire. If we replace Prentice's 800m long wire with a short tuned coil, it might
still work about the same. It does seem to possibly mirror Kapanadze's setup fairly closely, except
Kapanadze used a much more compact transmitter/disrupter and receiver coil assembly. Am I close
to your ideas Wesley? :)

P.S.
Maybe what Kapanadze had in his tobacco can besides a flyback transformer was a tuneable HV capacitor (#23 in Prentice's drawing)...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1066 on: January 15, 2019, 10:20:34 PM »
Hi Wesley. You can find the PDF file for that Prentice patent attached to my message here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg523030/#msg523030


Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1067 on: January 16, 2019, 02:24:50 AM »
Wesley Hi this is my contribution a four-phase clock contribution.
If you want a 50 Hz or 60 you have to drive it with 4 times that frequency
The CD4046 is simply a stable VFO

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1068 on: January 16, 2019, 05:01:10 AM »
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/3555/
#3556 and #3564

     Tekla Ozkan " simple thinking" ( ~ Tanaka Saburo,  Keiichiro Asaoka Inverter generator)


http://www.patentsencyclopedia.com/app/20090079393
Attention,  probably " getuerkt" !  ::) ;) ;D


For " more complexity thinker" :

Triangle 1 : DC/AC left-/ or up helix
Triangle 2: AC/DC right/ or down helix

Tornado ? N-P-N holes principle ?

N1 : CCW or CW
P
N2 : CW or CCW                 

   NPN Trans-Resistor " Transistor" ,      a.  Photo-copler  b.  Phono-copler          to RTS/HTS

BTW : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1932-Bridgeport-Phono-Electric-Trolley-Bus-Ad-wg393-MBFA2Q-/290875565380?redirect=mobile
alloy material mix ?

Offline Ansis

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1069 on: January 16, 2019, 11:31:11 AM »
To Void, Wesley.
I see you are back on the right track!
Void, I think like you about 15 years from now.
Your Wireless Video was realy good!
Wesley, I think Kapanadze use sea water like medium, but very thick multi strands wire which he buried in the Sea was Antena. It is Energy from Medium, which contains EM Field. He makes loop.
In that loop he amplifiere field.
Thats it!


Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1070 on: January 16, 2019, 08:07:30 PM »

Schumann resonance does not allow us to send a signal from point A to point B without significant losses. The losses are considerable, question of wavelength far too long for the possible sizes of radiant systems.
In front of you, you do not only have blind believers in fairy tales or uneducated ignoramuses. You have curious, critical and competent minds, with strong objections which you do not respond, or by digressions, and which you confuse with missiles.

 
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Schumann resonance frequencies are lower than expected for an ideal cavity, i.e., two concentric layers of infinite conductivity filled by a lossless dielectric medium  [Jackson, 1999
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2002JA009779

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances
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In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth.
That is in my previous post  I said:
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Think about Standing Wave deformation at your higher Schumann Resonance frequency
And you'll get your FE.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530166/#msg530166



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some harmonic of the fundamental earth resonant frequency—up to approximately 25 – 35 kHz—is used for the oscillator frequency.
In this frequency range the around-the-world propagation efficiency is in the general area between 93 to 87%
https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/wardenclyffe-lab-1901-1906/connection-to-earth/proposed-methods-for-terrestrial-resonance/
Please read all of it!!
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Appendix II, "The Zenneck Surface Wave"]
The oscillatory transformer provides the high voltage alternating current needed to periodically charge the transmitter’s elevated terminal.
A monochromatic subcarrier signal is then added.
This is in the form of an abrupt lower frequency electrical impulse applied at a rate approaching the fundamental earth resonance frequency.
Higher frequency impulses, above the oscillator frequency are also added at every harmonic of the low frequency subcarrier impulse, be it
the fundamental earth resonance frequency or some lower harmonic of same. [Corum & Corum]
While the following quote refers to the use of an RF alternator in conjunction with a resonance transformer to produce continuous waves,
it appears to be applicable to the excitation of earth resonance modes as well
. .

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en
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Because propagation losses are so low at the primary Schumann resonance frequency (below 0.25 dB per Mm according to published data),
signals at that frequency may be transmitted to any point on the earth without significant attenuation.



Wesley
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 02:56:31 PM by stivep »

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1071 on: January 17, 2019, 10:21:22 AM »
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds
Many did read this news but forgot  !

A. "electrical efficiency > 100%" as term for FE devices

B.  " ....   It begins to cool down..."

C.  ".... and applied smaller and smaller voltages. Every time the Voltage was halved,
            the electrical power was reduced by a factor of fourbut the light power only
            dropped by a factor of two.   ...."

Offline Sergh

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1072 on: January 17, 2019, 10:29:14 AM »
A.  " ...."
B.  " ...."
C.  ".... "
D. "....69 picowatts of light, of course, is a very small amount" 69 picowatts = 0,000 000 000 069 Watt,  very very very small amount energy from ambient heat, not usable.

Offline F6FLT

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1073 on: January 17, 2019, 10:47:33 AM »
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds
Many did read this news but forgot  !

A. "electrical efficiency > 100%" as term for FE devices
...

I had seen this article when it came out, source paper here. It would be revolutionary in principle, since it would be a Maxwell demon.
On the practical side, the energy in question is on the order of tens of pW, so no practical interest without considerable improvements.
But there are worse things. This scientific paper is questionable.  Cooling was not measured but calculated. The paper was refuted, a real measure would have indicated an absence of cooling:
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2012/ph250/kumar2/
"The authors did not directly observe cooling, mostly because they did not thermally isolate the diode, instead they chose to keep the temperature fixed! They calculate the net cooling. In simple terms, one would not observe cooling in the recombination dominated region."

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1074 on: January 17, 2019, 10:51:09 AM »
D. "....69 picowatts of light, of course, is a very small amount" 69 picowatts = 0,000 000 000 069 Watt,  very very very small amount energy from ambient heat, not usable.
       "C. THE RATIO FROM POWER FACTOR AND HEAT FACTOR APPLIED "( + Newton* meter Factor)

                  " picowatts "- device as q.e.d. for him and his POWER KW/KVA RATIO description :               
               to  mega.         

 http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1075 on: January 17, 2019, 10:53:29 AM »
I had seen this article when it came out, source paper here. It would be revolutionary in principle, since it would be a Maxwell demon.
On the practical side, the energy in question is on the order of tens of pW, so no practical interest without considerable improvements.
But there are worse things. This scientific paper is questionable.  Cooling was not measured but calculated. The paper was refuted, a real measure would have indicated an absence of cooling:
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2012/ph250/kumar2/
"The authors did not directly observe cooling, mostly because they did not thermally isolate the diode, instead they chose to keep the temperature fixed! They calculate the net cooling. In simple terms, one would not observe cooling in the recombination dominated region."
In the recombination dominated region I expect : 0 change in Kelvin !

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1076 on: January 17, 2019, 12:25:18 PM »
       "C. THE RATIO FROM POWER FACTOR AND HEAT FACTOR APPLIED "( + Newton* meter Factor)

                  " picowatts "- device as q.e.d. for him and his POWER KW/KVA RATIO description :               
               to  mega.         

 http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-power-from-pW-to-W.html :'(

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1077 on: January 17, 2019, 12:34:19 PM »
Small update.
To everyone.
Do you have Made in China Joule Thief type  HiVoltage transformer, Tesla style?
https://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mjrpl-NbzG9qfntqZiM2lcw.jpg
Do you have "metal water pipe"?
All magic is in "pipe" and in the HiVoltge source.
When you playing with Sparks, Ozzone :), nothing extraordinary.
But when you attach "water pipe" through wire to the violet terminal of the mini Tesla style transformer, be very very carefull, because "mixture" of Currents can kill you!
I get internal burning of my finger with "cooked flesh" smell and black dot.
This is that.
When you have these 2 parts together and if you make loop, than we can get "energy".
Kapanadze love that word.
Энэргия пошла!
:)

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1078 on: January 17, 2019, 01:02:03 PM »
https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-power-from-pW-to-W.html :'(
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds
VA~ W ( several power definitions!) VAh ~ Wh
LED:                          Unit VOLT x Unit AMPERE ~ Unit Lux as power indicator

                                  1/2 from above Unit VOLT x ? Units Ampere ~ Units Lux

                                  as reduced a . Light b. electric power factor

                                   FACTOR OF FOUR : FACTOR OF TWO


Mukherjee device:

DC-motor( and generator) in one + Controle-Unit
Technical process to counterbalance F( orce) :

                                                                  balance,wagging,

                                                                left side leg and right side leg

Left side leg :
Paragraph : " If in a conventional generator the field strengh B.......  F= B LI

Right side leg :
Paragraph : " If the field strength of the electrical device -edit: is- 2B...... F'=2Bx L x I


F/F': B/2B : 1/2 Ampere current x 1/2 nominal Voltage = 1/4 nominal VoltxAmpere

Edit : f.e. B/10B : 1/10 Ampere current x 1/10 nominal Voltage = 1/100 nominal Volt x Ampere

              ( Counter-) BALANCE OF POWER

 Pico-Watt ...... Watt, KiloWatt, MegaWatt

 ::) IS this the End?  NO,  coil length = the I from BxLxI variation and
 the " pure output energy force" can be also extracted from the shaft : kinetic force/ energy as power source

There are many FE devices,  based by physics formula applying and logical maths. ! Conventional EE-regime and Quantum-regime!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1079 on: January 17, 2019, 01:55:14 PM »
To have a pure 80% -<100% pure electromagnetic converter is a very good beginning  !                           
1Watt-hour source : seems not much
1 hour = 60 min. = 3600 sec.
Let 1 Wh cycling 3600 times/h= 3600 Wh
Hertz: " motionfree" rotation/ cycling
Hz,KiloHz,MegaHerz,GigaHz,TeraHz,....
1 Wh x THz- times : ? Wh
-------
80% to < 100% EMF efficiency
+ elektret EF and/ or  permanent rmagnet MMF
Efficiency amplifier : > 100%