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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 174859 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1560 on: September 18, 2018, 08:36:04 AM »
:-*
Tinsel and others it doesn't appear to be about 'perpetual motion' or creating or the ability to destroying energy
but more about charge force energy that comes from our sun that's also connected to the magnetic radiation
from our planets earth. All are connected.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2018, 04:13:42 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1561 on: September 19, 2018, 02:02:17 AM »
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Tinsel and others it doesn't appear to be about 'perpetual motion' or creating or the ability to destroying energy
but more about charge force energy that comes from our sun that's also connected to the magnetic radiation
from our planets earth. All are connected.

Nobody has ever given me even one example of anything anywhere in the known universe that is not in perpetual motion. My opinion is this, prove everything is not in perpetual motion by giving me one example of something which is not. Otherwise people may want to consider why they are spreading misinformation about something they obviously do not understand.

On the high voltage discharge into a sphere experiment I mentioned prior we could infer a few things by way of logic and reason I didn't state.
- A single discharge produced an audible ping noise on the sphere thus something must have been set into oscillation.
- why did it produce a material oscillation, why does anything?, something must have moved in some way.
- Why does anything move?, a force must have been applied in some way.
- If a force produced the oscillation, a resonant "ping" noise then this ping should have a frequency of oscillation... in fact it did.
- Now if we understand basic resonant systems one would think the time period of the discharge would correlate to the frequency of the oscillation. Not as speculation but more so a basic understanding of how and why resonant systems act as they do. We always see a periodic force applied to something, the time period generally smaller than the frequency of oscillation of the thing to which the force is applied.

Which begs the question, has anyone ever thought to measure resonant frequency of a metal sphere and tailor the discharge time period to that frequency?... I did. It would seem obvious however that does not mean anyone has ever tried it and the obviousness of something generally appears after the fact that it has happened and seldom before. Not unlike Faraday thinking what if I put this coil next to that other one, what would happen?, we know the rest of that story.

In my opinion this is the wonderful thing about our imagination, science and experiments... the what if?. We see something happen and then later we think...what if?. My theory on this is pretty straight forward, if you ever run out of what if's then that is the moment you have stopped learning and your done.

Did you notice how my posts work AG?, we provide something in the way of useful information or insight into something then try to justify it by way of reason to help other people... you should try it.





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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1562 on: September 19, 2018, 04:18:47 AM »
Thanks for the 'rant' onepower but i haven't any intention on engaging into any of your thoughts nor am I going to
be coerced into publishing any synopsis or hypothesis as I don't see  as i need to prove anything here  to any one,
and I have not seen any of your work and if you have any ideas you consider worth while I would suggest you test
them out at your own expense and then do what you will with them, and to be honest I have no idea what your
trying to say other than betide any one who has a different view to you, but that's your problem not mine.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1562 on: September 19, 2018, 04:18:47 AM »
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1563 on: September 19, 2018, 06:28:03 AM »
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Thanks for the 'rant' onepower but i haven't any intention on engaging into any of your thoughts nor am I going to
be coerced into publishing any synopsis or hypothesis as I don't see  as i need to prove anything here  to any one,

So my insight into experiments I have made in the past is a "rant" to somehow "coerce" something out of you that remains undefined?... got it.

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and I have not seen any of your work and if you have any ideas you consider worth while I would suggest you test
them out at your own expense and then do what you will with them,

Test them?... I just explained my tests didn't I?. An Electro-dynamic force producing a physical force as an oscillation which then leads to the radiation of charged matter... which part did you not understand?. I test everything, wtf did you think all my posts were about?.

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and to be honest I have no idea what your trying to say other than betide any one who has a different view to you, but that's your problem not mine.

You have no idea what I'm trying to say?, I'm not sure how I could make it any more clear, do I need to draw a picture for you?.
So I reviewed your last 50 posts and I have concluded you bring nothing of substance to the table, no offense however the facts remain and yes this conversation is over.




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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1564 on: September 19, 2018, 12:02:10 PM »
AG
So my insight into experiments I have made in the past is a "rant" to somehow "coerce" something out of you that remains undefined?... got it.
The thread and others is full of half and unfinished Transverse wave prototypes thaty have missed the point

Test them?... I just explained my tests didn't I?. An Electro-dynamic force producing a physical force as an oscillation which then leads to the radiation of charged matter... which part did you not understand?. I test everything, wth did you think all my posts were about?.
 
Why do you used the word understand it's a legal word to stand under someones control 'enslavement'' why not comprehend ?


You have no idea what I'm trying to say?, I'm not sure how I could make it any more clear, do I need to draw a picture for you?.
So I reviewed your last 50 posts and I have concluded you bring nothing of substance to the table, no offense however the facts remain and yes this conversation is over.
until i have something of substance to crow about, that's right!
« Last Edit: September 19, 2018, 09:41:46 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1565 on: September 19, 2018, 02:35:21 PM »
- why did it produce a material oscillation, why does anything?, something must have moved in some way.
- Why does anything move?, a force must have been applied in some way.

In my opinion this is the wonderful thing about our imagination, science and experiments... the what if?. We see something happen and then later we think...what if?. My theory on this is pretty straight forward, if you ever run out of what if's then that is the moment you have stopped learning and your done.


electricity, heat, light and movement is how dissimilation of matter manifests itself. My suggestion is that different type of effect manifests as heat and some other as light.

The discharge might be so violent, that it actually moves the matter. This is why it resonates and creates air pressure.

I totally agree that imagination, science and experiment leads to revelation and new technologies. The sad part is that imagination is not valued in most cases. This means we go in circles repeating the old crap that might not be correct.

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Tuning the circuit
« Reply #1566 on: September 21, 2018, 02:46:22 PM »
So far as I have seen,
C1 and C5 are DC decoupling capacitors. they can be made big (bigger than 10uF)
C2 is a balancing capacitor and must remain small (<1nF). For now I keep this one open.
C3 Dont know yet what this one does. It could be clear after tuning.

C4 is very important. This one tunes the series resonance of L2 and C4.
I have been playing mostly with this cap.

C6 (not shown on circuit) is a parallel tuning capacitor over L3

The ground at the source, is not earth ground, but a floating ground, like a copper mass, or long wire.

L1 L2 L3 are 3 bifilar pancake coils, stacked.

L1 is high side pulsed by the mosfet, producing negative inductive spikes (back EMF) into C2 C3 and C4.

L2 becomes series resonant with C4.

L2 also shows a disruptive discharge right before the mosfet is turned on again. This is also dependent on L3 (as shown in previous posted Youtube video).
L3 captures this radiant energy pulse(at the right frequency). and at the same time is resonant from L1 (and L2).

L3 is the output coil. (tuned by parallel cap C6)

Tuning is critical in this circuit.
First the L3 coil needs a resistive load, without parallel cap. The current is measured (for its maximum) through the resistor.
The current through L3 is dependent on the frequency of the disruptive discharges of L2.

This is where I am at at this stage. The tuning of L2/C4 to get the most current in L3.

After this frequency is found, the L3 coil can be tuned by a parallel capacitor, to the frequency found (max current).

then the radiant current, is combined with the resonant voltage, and power should be measured. but this all needs very careful tuning.

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Tuning the circuit
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Re: Tuning the circuit
« Reply #1567 on: September 21, 2018, 03:38:54 PM »
So far as I have seen,
C1 and C5 are DC decoupling capacitors. they can be made big (bigger than 10uF)
C2 is a balancing capacitor and must remain small (<1nF). For now I keep this one open.
C3 Dont know yet what this one does. It could be clear after tuning.

C4 is very important. This one tunes the series resonance of L2 and C4.
I have been playing mostly with this cap.

C6 (not shown on circuit) is a parallel tuning capacitor over L3

The ground at the source, is not earth ground, but a floating ground, like a copper mass, or long wire.

L1 L2 L3 are 3 bifilar pancake coils, stacked.

L1 is high side pulsed by the mosfet, producing negative inductive spikes (back EMF) into C2 C3 and C4.

L2 becomes series resonant with C4.

L2 also shows a disruptive discharge right before the mosfet is turned on again. This is also dependent on L3 (as shown in previous posted Youtube video).
L3 captures this radiant energy pulse(at the right frequency). and at the same time is resonant from L1 (and L2).

L3 is the output coil. (tuned by parallel cap C6)

Tuning is critical in this circuit.
First the L3 coil needs a resistive load, without parallel cap. The current is measured (for its maximum) through the resistor.
The current through L3 is dependent on the frequency of the disruptive discharges of L2.

This is where I am at at this stage. The tuning of L2/C4 to get the most current in L3.

After this frequency is found, the L3 coil can be tuned by a parallel capacitor, to the frequency found (max current).

then the radiant current, is combined with the resonant voltage, and power should be measured. but this all needs very careful tuning.
Evostars Hi re the coils I had a look at some of Nelsons video's and it looks like the top coil has 20 turns or winds
How many do you recommend with your experience to initial testing ?

AG

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1568 on: September 24, 2018, 10:16:23 PM »
L1 is a bifilar pancake coil with much inductance, so many wingings is good. Inductance can be increased by using the right ferrite.
High inductance relates to the possibility of a strong magnetic field.
A strong magnetic field can produce a powerful back emf/inductive spike.

L2 and L3 are primary and secondary and need to be equal mass.
this because the radiant energy produced by the disruptive discharge of L2 induces a current into L3 at the right frequency.
equal mass gives the most efficient energy transfer.

L3 can have more windimgs than L2 resulting in more inductance, and a higher voltage, that when combined with the induced current produces more power.

C3 might be to give a stable ground for the series resonance of C4 and L2. 
so I will make it larger and see what happens (increasing c5 was the same idea and wotked).

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1568 on: September 24, 2018, 10:16:23 PM »
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