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Author Topic: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon  (Read 4069 times)

Offline memoryman

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2018, 04:59:10 PM »
Energy coming in from a un-stated source (for example heat), measurement error or???

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #61 on: June 15, 2018, 09:13:08 PM »
Conrad,
there are a lot of junk on this forum (and other FE forums) but that is not a reason to say that FE not possible.

What is your classification of following information? Is it unpractical and so should not be considered ?

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds
https://inhabitat.com/mit-researchers-create-led-light-that-exceeds-100-percent-efficiency/

-V.

The article is from 2012 and since then probably no progress.

Everything should and can be researched. But do not claim success before it happened.

I have nothing against looking at strange effects but please do not call it FE or OU or "violation of anything" before you can show a conclusive experiment. Claims in the picowatt are weak and need more work before you call it more than a speculation or a research projet.

The anouncements in this forum are all premature. The people who claim something do not understand the difference between speculation and proof. That is the essence of my criticism.

I allow everybody to speculate, to hope or to investigate whatever they desire. But I do not allow claims of FE, OU or "violation of anything"  without solid proof.  Picowatt claims  are weak, words  are weak and undocumented devices are  super weak. "Prove that it does not work" is also extraordinary weak.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2018, 09:43:04 PM »
Hi Conrad,
Thank you the answer.
I hope that I not offend you if I say that your answer is good illustration how "knowledge filtering" (aka as confirmation bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias) works.Unwanted facts and evidence just put aside under any excuse.
Its not only issue in physics, its general "scientific" method...

Regards,
-V.



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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2018, 09:43:04 PM »
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Offline Nonlinear

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2018, 01:15:51 PM »
Vasik041, the jerk agent is as biased as a 10 kV diode  ;D What would you expect from him? Objectivity? Or even openminded search for truth? Nah…! He already ‘knows’ the answer to all matters of OU. Simply not possible, period! And that’s it!  ;D If I wouldn’t know the answer, I would ask what the hell is such a mean fellow doing on a forum that supposed to discuss something impossible. And he is doing this full time like a professional, just look at the number of posts he made already, something like 6666.

Oh… wait, actually I am wrong, he doesn’t already know the answer to these questions, and he has said this himself a few posts back, he wrote “I know nothing”. But he poses like a know it all “authority”  ::)
But to me he looks like an ignorant shoemaker who trolls the concert halls, walks up to the stage, jerks the violin out of  Yehudi Menuhin’s hands and starts schooling him about what is possible and what is not, and how to play the Mendelssohn violin concerto  ;D

Without that we get just hot air from his body cavities. I can do hot air by myself without Mr. Sheehan.


This fellow is a puff of hot air himself!

Offline conradelektro

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2018, 09:27:56 PM »
Vasik041, the jerk agent is as biased as a 10 kV diode  ;D What would you expect from him? Objectivity? Or even openminded search for truth? Nah…! He already ‘knows’ the answer to all matters of OU. Simply not possible, period! And that’s it!  ;D If I wouldn’t know the answer, I would ask what the hell is such a mean fellow doing on a forum that supposed to discuss something impossible. And he is doing this full time like a professional, just look at the number of posts he made already, something like 6666.

Oh… wait, actually I am wrong, he doesn’t already know the answer to these questions, and he has said this himself a few posts back, he wrote “I know nothing”. But he poses like a know it all “authority”  ::)
But to me he looks like an ignorant shoemaker who trolls the concert halls, walks up to the stage, jerks the violin out of  Yehudi Menuhin’s hands and starts schooling him about what is possible and what is not, and how to play the Mendelssohn violin concerto  ;D


This fellow is a puff of hot air himself!


Thank you for the commendation! I am proud that you are one of my fans in this forum. And it is good to see that at least a few people listen and understand my advice. Keep up the good work. To learn means to suffer.


Greetings, Conrad

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2018, 09:27:56 PM »
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Offline ZL

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #65 on: June 18, 2018, 12:18:29 AM »
While some of the noble warriors were valiantly fighting off the shill attacks, we have done more research in this subject, and the simulations have revealed some obstacles that were not mentioned in Dr. Sheehan's papers. These obstacles could invalidate at least one of the suggested methods of energy extraction, but the validity of the basic principle can be still proven by another method.

Due to the malicious shill activity I don't see any rational motivation to continue the discussion on this forum. It makes no sense to allow shills to disrupt any decent effort, and divert our attention from the work at hand into fighting mean arrogance and sheer stupidity.

Therefore a new moderated forum has been created for this thread (although other worthy FE principles may be also discussed) and I have started migrating my own posts to the new forum. There are valuable posts made by other posters here that would be nice to just copy-paste as they are, if the authors Vasik, Nonlinear, broli, and not_a_mib give their permission for this. The new forum is here:
http://feprinciples.my-board.org
All genuine (non-shill) FE researchers who are interested in this subject and willing to actively participate in, and contribute to this research and detective work are invited to sign up at the new forum. Shills will be banned anyway, so spare us the trouble…

There is a temporary thread to discuss the reposting issues, so until the migration is finished, please post in this temporary thread:
http://feprinciples.my-board.org/showthread.php?tid=2
If you give your permission to copy your posts and repost them on the new forum, then please let me know it here, or in the above temporary thread.

An updated new version of my paper has been also uploaded.

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #66 on: June 18, 2018, 02:02:54 AM »
ZL
I think if you asked Conrad to "cease and desist" from these redundant engagements ...offering unsolicited scrutiny ...
I am sure he would withdraw ,  hopefully he is a gentlemen at heart .

I would hope respecting your topic and your wishes to discuss this with persons of like mind can continue here and does not end up having to be taken elsewhere.
that would be sad indeed.
respectfully
Chet K
PS
your link to the new spot has all manner of warnings from my server ?

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #66 on: June 18, 2018, 02:02:54 AM »
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Offline ZL

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #67 on: June 18, 2018, 10:09:42 AM »
ramset, shills are never “gentlemen at heart” by the very nature of their work. They have a nefarious job to do, which is to distort and hide the politically incorrect truth, subvert, create discord, divert attention to useless channels, create hate, fight, and basically dissolve any real FE research community and common effort. There may be some who do their best to pose as gentlemen, but that is only a mask, which comes off at the right moment when they betray the community and do their dirty work.

You know very well that in an unmoderated forum overtaken by shills real research that pursue realistic FE principles is not possible, not without getting overwhelmed and derailed by the disinfo agents. If this would not be so, why would you have started your own moderated forum? Advising me not to do the same is weird…

Why would the continuing of this thread in another, more peaceful forum be sad for genuine FE researchers? It might be sad for the disinfo operation, because they would lose control over our forum activities. The difference is only in URL and control. I hope it is not a big bother for the interested readers and posters to click on, or type a URL into their browser other than OU.com

It is not a new realization for me that constructive collaboration concerning worthy FE trails is not possible on unmoderated forums, like the one here. The only useful function of posting here seemed to be to make announcements that can reach a wider base of interested readers. But now even that illusion is dissipating. Just take a look at the poll attached to this thread. One of its function is to measure interest in this subject and thread that actually counts; the interest of those who are not too lazy, and have a sufficiently cooperative spirit to at least make a couple of clicks and vote. Is that really so difficult, and takes such a great effort?

After more than a month, there are only 6 votes. Wow, my friend, that is pretty much nothing. If I would stand up on a soapbox in the centre of a small town (not to speak about Hyde Park in London) and start talking about this subject, I would attract more eager and willing attention in one single day. There are about 1.5 billion English speakers in the world. Lets' assume that only 10% of those have access to internet, that is 150 million people. Let's assume that only 1% of them are interested in free energy, that is 1.5 million. Let's assume that only 1% of these care to check out this forum, that is 15000 people. Out of these 15000 potential viewers only 6 would care to give at least a meagre sign that they care about the subject by voting? Well, I think no more explanation is needed.

The point is that even this last motivation of reaching more people has disappeared. I can reach more than 6 people with a brand new forum, by simply inviting those I know would care. Some would argue, that the interest is reflected by the number of thread views displayed in the forum statistics. In reality that is a pretty much useless and misleading number. First of all, those don't show the real number of unique people, but just how many times a page has been viewed. It can also include non human bot visits. It can also be very easily manipulated to achieve certain goals of creating false impressions. A single person can view the same thread several times a day, by just checking in out of curiosity if there are any new posts. If you combine all these factor together, then you will realize that these statistics mean pretty much nothing if you want to know the real interest in a subject. Only a dozen of people viewing the same thread several times a day can create the impression of hundreds of views per day. If these dozen of people have multiple accounts like shills do, then they can even create the impression of a huge crowd to attract the attention of fad followers.

Why is there so meagre interest in worthy subjects like the solid-state Maxwell demon on this forum? Because during the many years real FE researchers have been either alienated by the shill invasions, or tired out by the countless and ceaseless hoax “research” that disinfo agents orchestrate here. Like exhausting a fish on hook. Sooner or later real interest dies off, and they stop visiting the forum because they already know (or have the impression) that no worthy FE discovery will be found here. And basically this is the ultimate goal of the suppression and disinfo operation. Make people disinterested and disillusioned in FE research. They have done a great job, their goal has been pretty much achieved already.

Summa summarum, for real FE researchers there is no rational reason why we should not start a new forum, and continue the collaboration there.

your link to the new spot has all manner of warnings from my server ?

We have checked the accessibility of the new forum from several countries with different browsers, and it works just fine for now. If it goes down at any time, we will just move the forum to another host, or set up a different medium of collaboration. The platform and host is completely secondary, as long as we can have control over what is happening, and have the BtB (Ban the Bastard) button at hand.  ;)



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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2018, 11:29:25 AM »
ZL
I started no forum .

Here is what My computer shows when I click on your link in NE USA


https://screenshots.firefox.com/kqpmULgMdieJZwFm/www.siteadvisor.com

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2018, 11:29:25 AM »
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Offline ZL

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #69 on: June 18, 2018, 12:45:53 PM »
ramset, maybe it was not you personally who started the overunity research forum, but you were actively involved in recruiting/inviting people to join there. Its basically the same thing, same team.

The screenshot of warning you have received shows that the warning is issued by your McAfee Site Advisor software, which is basically controlled by the thought police control system, and the enforces of politically correct internet content. They are owned by the same crooked, spying control freak gang like Google, Facebook, Wikipedia, MSM, Microsoft, etc. Here are some links that give an insight into their rip-off business model, and how they are forcing people to unnecessarily cough up money for the big corporations:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ghal9/mcafee_is_running_a_scam_siteadvisorcom_is_just_a/
http://www.snapfiles.com/siteadvisor.html
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/17/siteadvisor_false_alert/
McAfee Site Advisor is pretty much a scam.

The warning on your screenshot says:
“Whoa! Are you sure you want to go there?
http://feprinciples.my-board.org/ may try to steals your information.”


Steal your information!? Really? It is a public forum, therefore everything posted there is already accessible to all and can't be stolen. What else do they mean could be stolen? Your user name and password? Just make up one for the forum that you don't use anywhere else, and it can't be used anywhere else; therefore it will be worthless to steal it. Are you worried that the Administrator and moderators can see your email address? Just create and give another email address that is not your main personal address. No one is asking for your real name, postal address, social security number, bank account numbers, and the size of your shoes.  ;D  People should be worried about Facebook, Google, and Microsoft spying on them, because those are existing and proven real threats, not about a pathetic hoax warning like the one given by McAfee Site Advisor.

By the way, on the McAfee Site Advisor warning page there is a button that says [Accept the Risk]. I don't think someone needs to be a genius to realize that there is nothing of real value that can be stolen from you on the forum you wish to visit, so why would anyone be worried to click on that button, and just ignore the false warning? My advise to people: don't use McAfee; but if for some awkward reason you must use it, then just ignore the false warning and bypass it. And by the way, don't give out your real personal information, not only in that forum, but basically nowhere as far as you can, and then nobody can steal from you what you don't give out voluntarily (or by coercion like at Facebook).

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #70 on: June 18, 2018, 03:11:26 PM »
While some of the noble warriors were valiantly fighting off the shill attacks, we have done more research in this subject, and the simulations have revealed some obstacles that were not mentioned in Dr. Sheehan's papers. These obstacles could invalidate at least one of the suggested methods of energy extraction, but the validity of the basic principle can be still proven by another method.

Due to the malicious shill activity I don't see any rational motivation to continue the discussion on this forum. It makes no sense to allow shills to disrupt any decent effort, and divert our attention from the work at hand into fighting mean arrogance and sheer stupidity.

Therefore a new moderated forum has been created for this thread (although other worthy FE principles may be also discussed) and I have started migrating my own posts to the new forum. There are valuable posts made by other posters here that would be nice to just copy-paste as they are, if the authors Vasik, Nonlinear, broli, and not_a_mib give their permission for this. The new forum is here:
http://feprinciples.my-board.org
All genuine (non-shill) FE researchers who are interested in this subject and willing to actively participate in, and contribute to this research and detective work are invited to sign up at the new forum. Shills will be banned anyway, so spare us the trouble…

There is a temporary thread to discuss the reposting issues, so until the migration is finished, please post in this temporary thread:
http://feprinciples.my-board.org/showthread.php?tid=2
If you give your permission to copy your posts and repost them on the new forum, then please let me know it here, or in the above temporary thread.

An updated new version of my paper has been also uploaded.

Zoltan
You may copy and repost my content on your forum, and thanks for taking interest in them.  8)

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #70 on: June 18, 2018, 03:11:26 PM »
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Offline vasik041

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #71 on: June 18, 2018, 06:41:49 PM »
Hi Zoltan,
Yes, its ok copy my posts.
I not sure if it is wise to give up and go to other site. Public should see what is going on.
For example, I have my own yahoo group for many years. It is quiet and only few people are there.

Most people coming here for entertainment, not for research.
Regards,-V.

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #72 on: June 18, 2018, 06:52:56 PM »
Another point, about question why p-n junction can't be "discharged" like capacitor.I talked with my friend and he pointed me obvious misconception about p-n junction.Charges (ions) in p-n junction are fixed. Electrons and holes moved by their field, not vise versa. It seems that most people confuse cause and effect.
It does not mean that we can't use heat...but it's different story.
 :)

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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #73 on: June 18, 2018, 09:00:52 PM »
Vasik041, the jerk agent is as biased as a 10 kV diode  ;D What would you expect from him? Objectivity? Or even openminded search for truth? Nah…! He already ‘knows’ the answer to all matters of OU. Simply not possible, period! And that’s it!  ;D If I wouldn’t know the answer, I would ask what the hell is such a mean fellow doing on a forum that supposed to discuss something impossible. And he is doing this full time like a professional, just look at the number of posts he made already, something like 6666.

Oh… wait, actually I am wrong, he doesn’t already know the answer to these questions, and he has said this himself a few posts back, he wrote “I know nothing”. But he poses like a know it all “authority”  ::)
But to me he looks like an ignorant shoemaker who trolls the concert halls, walks up to the stage, jerks the violin out of  Yehudi Menuhin’s hands and starts schooling him about what is possible and what is not, and how to play the Mendelssohn violin concerto  ;D

This fellow is a puff of hot air himself!
Nonlinear, of course it is not my business, but you seems to be educated man with good taste.There is absolutely no reason insult people despite their behavior.
:)


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Re: A Solid-State Maxwell Demon
« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2018, 09:20:40 PM »
People who become personal do so because of a lack of facts and logic.

 

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