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Author Topic: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries  (Read 6446 times)

Offline mak27

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2018, 02:32:11 AM »
Stiplant here is a crude sketch

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2018, 12:37:20 AM »
hello MAK27 thank for schemas  but i can not read the words because the resolution of your file is not good  please if can get otehr with good resolution thank

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2018, 05:03:22 PM »
Hey mak27, sorry to see you receive such an obnoxious welcome to the forum.  :( 


You can learn from your first heckler and ignore the next one.[/size]


Your findings are interesting and there will be many that try it for themselves.




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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2018, 05:03:22 PM »
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Offline mak27

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2018, 08:43:24 PM »
Hi Stiplant I sent you a PM and a written description on how to accomplish this, but you must remember I did not use lithium batteries

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2018, 08:50:09 PM »
Hi TAK22; I still have no Idea why he attacked me like that, its like your walking down the street and someone you dont even know runs

up to you and for no apparent reason hits you in the side of the face, all I did was post something that I thought would be interesting to

the other members here, I am not asking for money or trying to sell plans. Its just the way the world is these days I guess, Too bad!

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2018, 08:50:09 PM »
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Offline conradelektro

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2018, 10:51:01 AM »
all I did was post something that I thought would be interesting to the other members here,

@mak27:

This is not the only thing you did. You wrote in your first post:

"13months 4 days and 2hrs of nonstop light out of it"

And this is the unbelievable part which I countered with an equally unbelievable claim.

If you write silly claims you have to be prepared to get silly answers.

So, stop the nonsense, you started it. Your claim is a slap in the face of every sane person. You slapped first out of the blue.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2018, 01:07:34 PM »
"Hello mak27 !" to your entry to the forum and "hey Conrad !"

                            13 months and 4 days and and 2 hours = 9594,5 hours / 400 days

                            2 batteries á 2200 mA/1,2 Volt
                             
                            5 X white LEDs  using the below technical numbers
                                             3,5V 10-20 mA bright light consume

             https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/voltage-and-current-of-a-white-led.118486/
https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/blog/leds-555s-pwm-flashers-and-light-chasers-index.378/

             The "unbelieve-ability" is inside the question and measurement  and calculation :
                             LED light brigthness/intensivity/consume per hour ?

                            2200 mA x 2 ea. x 1,2 V = 5280 mVAh
                            5280 mVAh / 9594,5 h = 0,55 mVA / 5 LEDs =

                           claimed consume :  0,11 mVA per white LED and hour             
 
                           versus  :
                                                        35 mVA up to 70 mVA per white LED bright light and hour 

                           
                           Your claim is like to have developed a magnetic battery recharge device !

                           
       5 LEDs x 17,5 mVA(from 3,5V and 5 mA useable light output) x 9594,5 hours  =                                                           839518 mVAh
       the 2 batteries are total rated (without memory effect lost et cet.):     
                                          5280 mVAh

                                        159 x capacity recharge cycles

     Sincerely
                  OCWL                                                             
                                                         
p.s.: application possibility of your claimed "fenomen" :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citedDocuments?CC=WO&NR=2013075804A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=7&date=20130530&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
« Last Edit: April 22, 2018, 06:01:13 PM by lancaIV »

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Offline mak27

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2018, 02:49:46 PM »
The experiment is so simple a child could replicate it, and yet you refuse to even consider it I stand by my statement

because it is true, I guess you own stock in duracell and this threatens you in some way or another. This experiment would cost

less than two visits to starbucks, so go ahead take a chance, you probably already have all the parts needed. The truth will set you free.

I was looking at your  POST HISTORY it seems you do a lot of this sort of thing, attack people for no good reason.

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2018, 05:57:46 PM »
The experiment is so simple a child could replicate it, and yet you refuse to even consider it I stand by my statement

because it is true, I guess you own stock in duracell and this threatens you in some way or another. This experiment would cost

less than two visits to starbucks, so go ahead take a chance, you probably already have all the parts needed. The truth will set you free.

I was looking at your  POST HISTORY it seems you do a lot of this sort of thing, attack people for no good reason.

I do not attack silly, outrageous and fraudulent claims, I question this nonsense. And always these people do not provide proof, they cry "I am attacked" instead.

You will not find one post from me which "attacked" without reason. Everything I "attacked" was always proved to be unreasonable in the end. The simple proof lies in the fact that not a single OU device was ever described here, which turned out to be true. But I only "attacked" the most obvious nonsense, never the "difficult" cases which needed lengthy analysis before clarity could be achieved.

Unfortunately many unreasonable, deluded and fraudulent people come forward in this forum. Hence, many "attacks" from me.

I like strange experiments, but I do not like obvious nonsense and fraud.

I leave mak27 to his devices and will not post in this thread again. Thinking readers will be able to judge by themselves.


Poster lancaIV was kind enough to do the calculation, which is the simple truth. But mak27 does not deserve such kindness.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2018, 06:39:06 PM »
              „Jeder dumme Junge kann einen Käfer zertreten.
               Aber alle Professoren der Welt können keinen herstellen"

Conrad, let us Schopenhauer and his wisdom greeting ! 1.step,2. ....,3. ....

Why shall this device not work  -probably only partial- like an ambient energy harvester ?
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_harvesting
Instead solar cells using LED technology ? Light Transformating Diods (Alwin Mark technology)

the LEDs : seriell or parallel connection ?
the batteries,+/+ and -/- or +/- and -/+
the magnet positve and negative pole related to the batteries ?

                                 IT is ,
                       like demonstrated, electronically a closed circuit 

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2018, 08:54:47 PM »
@Mak27

Simple. Worth to be tried, IMO.

Usually, Joules Thieves use only one AA bat.
What would you suggest for one single bat?

Thanks,
Jean

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2018, 01:52:39 AM »
Jean Thank you your drawing is exactly how I have it set up, however I did not try it with one battery. so I dont know how that would turn out

I believe what is happening, is that once the circuit is closed and the current starts flowing through the leds, the magnets are pulling the extra electrons from the steel

the specific gravity of air is approx..0765 per cubic foot, while steel is490 lbs per cubic foot. that is 6,405 times greater  for steel. while copper is

7,085 times greater

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2018, 02:02:27 AM »
@ LancaIV the drawing that  Jean did is exactly how I have it setup, I do not know the milliamp draw of the LEDs. At first I monitered the voltage every day the first week it dropped .14 volts, and then it flatlined at 2.58 volts when i saw no difference day after day I started checking once a week and then once a month. at the 12th month it started dropping off in voltage  about .01 per week the last two weeks I could tell if the lights were on    only if it was very dark in the room

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2018, 02:12:11 AM »
I would also like to add, How can this be considered fraudulent, when I am not asking for money, I am not trying to sell anything. Its just a simple experiment

that I thought would be interesting to share, I thought thats what this forum was for???? sharing Ideas, what do you have to loose hook one up if you dont believe me

and see how long it lasts, and hook up  another one without the magnets. I know that some LEDs consume more current than others, so that would be a factor!

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Re: getting more energy out of AA and AAA batteries
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2018, 02:37:16 AM »
Hello mak27,
the given white LEDs technical numbers are to understand as "physical idea" for comparision,
instead 3,5 V and the different mA current values -light intensivity dependant- each one can dimming
this values for personal interests !

Lightning of white LEDs by 3,5V tension begins with 1 mA current :
3,5 mVA x 9600 h = 33600 mVAh
                                5280 mVAh battery capacity
 
Using this minimum shows that your device work(-ed)/-s mimimal with a C.O.P. >6
up to the calculated  "159 recharge cycles".

                                          Good result for the beginning

btw,my personal view:          not electrons but "Coulumb"

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebgymhollabrunn.ac.at%2Fipin%2Fph-quir.htm&edit-text=

Sincerely
             OCWL

p.s.: do not be worry about "unfriendly behaviour" from some(any?) members, after own experiments each of us is later wiser (or not !)

a battery capacity prolongation concept with solarcells :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=29520064U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19960201&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

instead solarcells :
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-Solar-Panel-using-Diodes/
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=526xslmO6Ds

what you are doing is like this- but 24/365 - and an artificial solar ambient
http://www.instructables.com/id/Simple-Solar-Circuits/

effect: simple capacity reconditioning circuit
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 03:27:48 PM by lancaIV »

 

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