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Author Topic: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant  (Read 11115 times)

Offline gyulasun

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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #120 on: June 11, 2018, 08:55:30 PM »
Hi SkyWatcher,

I reflect on your last but one post above. Well, I did not care about capacitor filter drawing symbol orientation (and please you don't, either), the point is that the two schematics are identical in function and operation.

Yes, the output from the FWB is a pulsing DC voltage and it charges up C2 to the peak value of the AC input voltage. Here we need to be more precise and distinguish between the pulsing current that charges up C2 and the pulsing voltage across C2, see attachment I took from this link: http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu12.php  You surely know the remains of the AC voltage across C2 is also called the ripple voltage.
The point is the pulsing current flows into the puffer or (reservoir) capacitor (C2) and it is the ripple voltage which will be fed into the series coils and notice that this voltage has no sharp waveforms to make the coils field collapse in the sense we normally mean pulsing a coil. The ripple voltage has the same frequency the AC input has when we half wave rectify as shown and it has twice the input AC frequency when we full wave rectify the input AC, waveforms are in the bottom part.

All I mean is that the rectified voltage or current does not pulse the two (Muller) coils, the current is never interrupted in them by the charge or discharge of C2 or of C3 and the DC output amplitude can only fluctuate a little in the function of the ripple voltage amplitude, while the ripple amplitude depends on the load current. Of course if the load current is suddenly interrupted, then the coils surely respond to that by a counter emf but it is a single moment and the coils stored energy goes into the capacitors which balance and share the spike, then all the charge may bleed away from the caps in time. 

Regarding your latest test you updated :  when the two coils are in series and do not have mutual inductive coupling between them, their self inductances add up, so their captured collapsing energy is surely higher than for a single coil or bucking coils, provided the supply voltage conditions are comparable voltage and input current wise.  I say this, and you are leaning toward the explanation of the higher efficiency being caused by the greater mass of copper.  We can be both happy...   I mean also with this here that a coil with higher number of turns (i.e. your added two coils) possesses a greater mass of copper.   8)

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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #121 on: June 21, 2018, 07:06:07 PM »
HI ALL, THIS MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO ALL..THE FRENCH VERSION
HAVE THE EXCITING BIT IN IT .THERE IS ALSO THE ENGLISH VERSION..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXXEjkwUemI

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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2018, 04:43:01 AM »
Hi all, I will focus on the rene/aum device more now.
I ran another charge/load test, though with a method to better know what was used or discharged from the lithium ion battery.
I used my digital charger, which has a discharge mode, so i can see exactly the amp hours used and take note of the voltages for average voltage data.
Also used a laptop power supply 19.12 volts loaded, where voltage only varied .01 volts during the charging phase.
The watt hours drained from the battery during discharge phase, was 5.75 watt hours from 12.60 volts.
Watt hours used to recharge the battery back to 12.60 volts was 4.95 watt hours.
Which is a 1.16 COP or 116 percent efficiency.
Used the 12 strand coil with ferrite tube again, with minor circuit changes and a ferrite core that does not protrude from ends of coil anymore.
Tests and ideas shall continue.
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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2018, 04:43:01 AM »
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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2018, 06:01:56 AM »
Hi all, I have been making some experiments with a different coil/core setup, the one with the 15 ferrite toroids stacked together, 7-3/4" long X 1-1/4" wide core.
I think the core is too long.
The core/coil probably needs to be closer to the brooks coil geometry, for highest inductance.
The original 12 strand coil/core is close to the brooks coil geometry.
In these latest tests though, i also used a 7 strand 24awg. coil, so that is different also.
My results with this long core/coil, for charge/load testing, was either right at 100% or slightly over, compared to 116% for the other coil/core.
I plan to modify this core, make it shorter and as close to brooks coil geometry as possible.
Then continue with charge/load testing.
peace love light :)

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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2018, 06:59:56 PM »
Hi all, i was thinking why the results were all going down with all the coil/cores and decided to check the lithium ion battery cells.

Sure enough, one of the cells was out of balance with the other 2 cells.

So I balanced them and the efficiency came back up to around 115 percent, with the original 12 strand coil/core.

Though the other coil/cores were showing higher efficiency, while the battery pack was out of balance.

So I will retest these and probably rebuild the longer core/coil.
peace love light :)

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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2018, 06:59:56 PM »
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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2018, 07:47:15 AM »
Hey skywatcher, how are your experiments doing so far? Have you increased your efficiency?

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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #126 on: August 03, 2018, 07:49:51 AM »
I am also working on something similar and I would like to see how you were doing and what you thought of this circuit (credits to patrick kelly)

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Re: Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant
« Reply #126 on: August 03, 2018, 07:49:51 AM »
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