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Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 153471 times)

Offline T-1000

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Il n'y a pa de magie ou de résonance ou tout autre chose c'est simplement une aimant qui passe devant une bobine sauf qu'il faut juste replique cette idee corectement la rotation n'est qu'un aspect cherchez dans cettte direction et vous produirer un surplus d'energie

En.  There is no magic or resonance or anything else.  It's just a magnet that passes in front of a coil, except that you have to replicate this idea properly.  Rotation is only one aspect.  Look in that direction and you will produce a surplus of energy

Yep, and I keep repeating myself here about same thing but with coils overlapping it is a bit challenge to everyone for doing that in solid state...

Cheers!
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 07:28:38 PM by gotoluc »

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Hello Pierre,

Been taking more time to learn about coil return. I believe I have been making it too complicated.  This is human nature unfortunately.

Your cap bank is both your source and your return for your coils.  I understand that coil return is only one aspect to your design.  I understand that you want to recover in both polarities of each field.   

When all of your diodes are going to positive cap bank, this leads me think you are using diodes very similar to a “Center tapped full wave rectifier” mode.  Fields can be combined, to allow for a center tap and send all diodes back to positive of your cap.  You will recovery both polarities in this arrangement.  Is this a good direction of thinking?

Thank you for your guidance. 
Jerdee
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Bonjour Pierre,

J'ai pris plus de temps pour en savoir plus sur le retour de la bobine. Je crois que je l'ai rendu trop compliqué. C'est la nature humaine malheureusement.

Votre banque de condensateur est à la fois votre source et votre retour pour vos bobines. Je comprends que le retour de bobine n'est qu'un aspect de votre conception. Je comprends que vous voulez récupérer dans les deux polarités de chaque champ.

Lorsque toutes vos diodes vont aux positif des condensateurs, cela m'amène à penser que vous utilisez des diodes très similaires à un mode "Rectifier à ondes pleines centrées". Les champs peuvent être combinés, pour permettre un tapotement central et renvoyer toutes les diodes au positif de vos condensateur. Vous récupérerez les deux polarités dans cet arrangement.
Est-ce une bonne direction à prendre?

Merci pour vos conseils.
Jerdee
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 07:39:06 PM by gotoluc »

Offline ariovaldo

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Yep, and I keep repreating myself here about same thing but with coils overlapping it is a bit challenge to everyone for doing that in solid state...

Cheers!


T-100, just for test my plan is to build one like that, using 100 volts dc to pulse the coils ( 29 awg wire ). To get the "moving magnet", I will not overlap the coils physically, but in the sequencer.
The sequencer is in the video.
https://youtu.be/nCReDKa6Fn8
What do you think?

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Offline TinselKoala

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A placeholder to mark this special time.
1. With Luc departing... who will be carrying on the definitive work? Jerdee? Where, how, who funds the project?
2. Where does the 60.5 Hz come from? I know, and so do some of you. You've all PROVEN several times over that it cannot be coming from the "DZ Generator" itself. And I'm telling you once again: It is coming from the Quebec electrical grid!
3. What is the moral position of someone who +actually+ has, or had "before the relays burned out" something that could literally save the world, save starving and dying children EVERY DAY.... but who can't be arsed to rebuild the "working" unit and show it to someone who matters, like a UNIVERSITY RESEARCH DEPARTMENT, and instead keeps teasing this community with his dribbles and drops of nothingburger grease....  This is a rhetorical question emphasizing that NOBODY with a heart or conscience would withhold those "secrets".
4. Therefore.... well, some of us can "do the math". You are fluffing the ego of a hoaxer.

Let me remind you that your hero Pierre has published several other videos of "self runners" that were not as he claimed, and once the public attention started getting heavy, he REMOVED those videos and the associated claims. Why? Because they were too easy to prove to be hoaxes. You lot have completely abdicated your critical thinking facilities. Not only is there absolutely no conventional theoretical justification to expect "OU" from such a contraption, you are blindly accepting a YOU TUBE video that makes extraordinary claims, without the least bit of an attempt at independent verification of the YOU TUBE VIDEO claims.

Offline konehead

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Pierre's translation a few posts back:

Il n'y a pa de magie ou de résonance ou tout autre chose c'est simplement une aimant qui passe devant une bobine sauf qu'il faut juste replique cette idee corectement la rotation n'est qu'un aspect cherchez dans cettte direction et vous produirer un surplus d'energie

En.  There is no magic or resonance or anything else.  It's just a magnet that passes in front of a coil, except that you have to replicate this idea properly.  Rotation is only one aspect.  Look in that direction and you will produce a surplus of energy
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 07:45:46 PM by gotoluc »

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Offline r2fpl

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Il n'y a pa de magie ou de résonance ou tout autre chose c'est simplement une aimant qui passe devant une bobine sauf qu'il faut juste replique cette idee corectement la rotation n'est qu'un aspect cherchez dans cettte direction et vous produirer un surplus d'energie

En.  There is no magic or resonance or anything else.  It's just a magnet that passes in front of a coil, except that you have to replicate this idea properly.  Rotation is only one aspect.  Look in that direction and you will produce a surplus of energy

Thank you for your answer Pierre,

If you can answer: Is this secret a way of accomplishing or rather just a part of the recipe?

Fr. Merci pour votre réponse Pierre,

Si vous pouvez répondre: Est-ce le secret d'accomplir ou plutôt juste une partie de la recette?
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 07:52:42 PM by gotoluc »

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To Pierre and TinselKoala , all

Tinsel I'm agree with the most from you but the below puzzling me.
Quote: "Where does the 60.5 Hz come from? I know, and so do some of you.  It is coming from the Quebec electrical grid!"

Of course Pierres freq-meter is probably not so accurate but the grid in my country mostly is accurate to below  + - 0,1Hz.  Pierres meter reads a deviation of 0.5 to 0.7 Hz !!

So I put a direct question to Pierre many of us want an explanation to:

How did you achieve 60 Hz from your very slow? magnetic rotation around the stator?


Regards Arne

Pour Pierre et TinselKoala, tous

Tinsel je suis d'accord avec le plus de vous mais le dessous me déroutant.
Citation: «D'où viennent les 60,5 Hz? Je sais, et certains d'entre vous aussi, ça vient du réseau électrique québécois!

Bien sûr, le Freq-mètre de Pierres n'est probablement pas aussi précis mais la grille de mon pays est la plupart du temps précise à moins de + - 0,1Hz. Le compteur Pierres lit une déviation de 0,5 à 0,7 Hz !!

Donc, j'ai posé une question directe à Pierre, beaucoup d'entre nous veulent une explication à:

Comment avez-vous atteint 60 Hz à partir de votre très lente rotation magnétique autour du stator?


Cordialement Arne

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Offline TinselKoala

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0.5 to 0.7 is about one percent of the basic 60 Hz value. What are the accuracy specifications of the multimeter Pierre used?
I have a FLUKE 87-iii DMM, which still has a NIST-traceable calibration sticker on it. The accuracy Specification for this high-quality DMM, for Frequency at 60 Hz, is +/- 0.7 percent.
So a Fluke reading that was 0.7 percent high, of a true 60Hz signal, would be 60.42 Hz. And this would still satisfy the Specifications and the NIST-traceable calibration. Pierre's meter, perhaps of somewhat lesser quality (I don't know the model) showing 60.5 Hz.... could very well be reading an actual 60.00 Hz signal.

So I have no trouble at all believing that Pierre's "60.5 Hz" is actually indicating the 60 Hz line frequency, within the limits of accuracy of his meter. Unless proven otherwise, of course.

We have lost the opportunity now, since the unit is no longer operating, of seeing a comparison of the meter reading when we _know_ it is connected to the mains, and the meter reading when it is looking at the "output" of the device. But maybe Pierre will at least condescend to show a measurement of the mains frequency using that meter.

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To Pierre and TinselKoala , all

Tinsel I'm agree with the most from you but the below puzzling me.
Quote: "Where does the 60.5 Hz come from? I know, and so do some of you.  It is coming from the Quebec electrical grid!"

Of course Pierres freq-meter is probably not so accurate but the grid in my country mostly is accurate to below  + - 0,1Hz.  Pierres meter reads a deviation of 0.5 to 0.7 Hz !!

So I put a direct question to Pierre many of us want an explanation to:

How did you achieve 60 Hz from your very slow? magnetic rotation around the stator?


Regards Arne

Pour Pierre et TinselKoala, tous

Tinsel je suis d'accord avec le plus de vous mais le dessous me déroutant.
Citation: «D'où viennent les 60,5 Hz? Je sais, et certains d'entre vous aussi, ça vient du réseau électrique québécois!

Bien sûr, le Freq-mètre de Pierres n'est probablement pas aussi précis mais la grille de mon pays est la plupart du temps précise à moins de + - 0,1Hz. Le compteur Pierres lit une déviation de 0,5 à 0,7 Hz !!

Donc, j'ai posé une question directe à Pierre, beaucoup d'entre nous veulent une explication à:

Comment avez-vous atteint 60 Hz à partir de votre très lente rotation magnétique autour du stator?


Cordialement Arne

Guys, the cheap frequency meter has already been addressed in the first topic. Pierre admitted it's a cheap meter and may not be reading the correct frequency. So lets not start this over again please. Unfortunately he did not connect it in the grid to see it's real accuracy using a clean 60Hz sine wave.

There's nothing more that will be given. We each decide to try building on our own. Pierre has forced no one, in fact I remember him saying we should not build yet as it's not working to his liking. So let's stop criticize Perre for the choice we made and respect his choices of not going public at this time. Lets give him the 2 to 4 months and see what he comes back with.. But if you alienate him, do you think he will come back?

Regards
Luc

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What difference does it make if he "comes back" or not? What useful information has he given, since the "relays burned up"?


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There's nothing more that will be given.


And what about you, Luc? Are you ever "coming back"?

Offline seaad

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Okay. Let's leave the Hz accuracy.
But

So I put a direct question to Pierre many of us want an explanation to:
How did you achieve 60 Hz from your very slow? magnetic rotation around the stator?


Donc, j'ai posé une question directe à Pierre, beaucoup d'entre nous veulent une explication à:
Comment avez-vous atteint 60 Hz à partir de votre très lente rotation magnétique autour du stator?

Regards Arne

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Offline gotoluc

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What difference does it make if he "comes back" or not? What useful information has he given, since the "relays burned up"?

The difference here is you have nothing invested and only doubts to offer even if you're not 100% sure.
So prove to us (without a doubt) how he was able to power the microwave oven from the uncoupled center coil.
We are reasonable individuals and will listen to a good presentation. However, you know that's not what you've been offering.

And what about you, Luc? Are you ever "coming back"?

I'm still here aren't I ?... I may change location but that doesn't mean I'm giving up. I still love doing research and still have a few more years to go before I pack it in.

Regards
Luc

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Okay. Let's leave the Hz accuracy.
But

So I put a direct question to Pierre many of us want an explanation to:
How did you achieve 60 Hz from your very slow? magnetic rotation around the stator?


Donc, j'ai posé une question directe à Pierre, beaucoup d'entre nous veulent une explication à:
Comment avez-vous atteint 60 Hz à partir de votre très lente rotation magnétique autour du stator?

Regards Arne

Pierre has just written that he will not give more information until he demonstrates his new device and knows he is protected. Do you seriously think more questions is going to help???

Any more post of this kind from you or anyone else asking for more details will be deleted. Mostly if you have not shown us a built test device.

If you think it is a fake, then provide your indisputable proof.
If you can't then shut up and let's see what comes of it.

Regards
Luc

Offline TinselKoala

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Luc, now you are completely backwards. It is up to the CLAIMANT to provide PROOF that his claims are true. It is NOT the responsibility of the critics like me to provide "proof" that the extraordinary claims, presented without adequate evidence,  aren't true!

However, if I had access to Pierre's laboratory and the machine, I am CERTAIN that I could show you that it does NOT work as claimed, and I am just as sure that I could find the "trick" that allows it to _appear_ to run a MW oven and itself.

But nobody will ever have that access. Why not? I know why, and in some deep part of your kind soul that I know is there.... you do too.


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So prove to us (without a doubt) how he was able to power the microwave oven from the uncoupled center coil.
Now you are just being silly. Obviously he did NOT power it with the "uncoupled center coil". Even you should know this, as no combination of the wiring schemes and the Arduino code that was presented will result in a 60.5 Hz output from this coil.





Offline seaad

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Luc
Questions forbidden!!
This forum is only dedicated to believers. Or?
And many besides me have put many questions here.
My builds are small and I have showed some of them.

Regards Arne

 

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