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Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 254544 times)

Offline dole

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Let's be serious.
Imagine four equal coils (solenoid) with core, connected in series so the last one, at the end, is connected to first.
Place them on steel ring or plate. Connect negative from a battery or whatever power source you have to the junction between coil one and four.
Connect capacitor positive to positive of the power source and negative to same junction of coil one and four.
Connect diode anode to junction between the coil two and three and cathode to positive of the capacitor, where the positive power source is connected.
Now connect one new wire to the junction of coil two/three/anode and touch with other end positive of the capacitor/power source junction.
If you find it interesting you can try to touch faster or slower and do some measurements, for each coil or some other places.
Compass or a small magnet can be used for the unfolding sense.

(I copied this, sometimes in the past, don’t remember, with small fixes, do not forget diode)

“Suppose us charging capacitor. The slope of the voltage is constantly decreasing, so the current drawn is constantly decreasing in value. Eventually, the slope becomes 0, that is to say, the capacitor is fully charged, and is accepting no more current, at this value of voltage, the current value is zero. It is about to cross the X-axis, meaning the current is going negative. The only way for this to be true, is for the capacitor voltage to be higher than the source voltage, which is the case as the voltage sine wave begins to drop off (considering the cap was fully charged at V slope = 0, IE peak) Now the capacitor begins to return energy to the circuit or oppose the source voltage, in the very same way a resistor oppose voltage. This is why reactance is at a ninety degree phase shift and resistance is not. This is why a capacitors voltage and current are not in phase. And - it is also why we must add them as vectors. So, the patter continues, of source voltage being higher than cap voltage, charging, cap voltage being higher than source voltage, discharging, so energy is returned to the circuit every period, which is why capacitive (and inductive) reactance values are frequency dependent, and also, if you can imagine the periodicity in time of a sine wave, it explains the omega (angular velocity portion as well) multiplying frequency by two pi gives us total radians covered by the circuit in a second, multiplied by the capacitance, we have a total value for reactance.”
(It will be too much to go in LC resonant frequency so we don’t have to deal with all kind of harmonic spikes)
And then a current will go in the way we wish.

d.

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Offline listener192

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An update on my re-build: https://youtu.be/IOf96febR60
Hi Gotoluc,
Impressive build once again.
Regards
L192

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It's not a question of attitude or wanting to hide things. It's a question of protection and to follow a well though out plan.


The danger is always the same: too often the men and their inventions disappear suddenly ! Stan Meyer, Troy Reed, ....

FR:
Le danger est toujours le même:trop souvent les hommes et leurs inventions disparaissent subitement !
Stan Meyer, Troy Reed, ....

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Offline r2fpl

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@r2fpl
I do not understand your attitude. Here is a forum to share, exchange ideas and finds, not to hide while hinting that you have understood something.
Pierre is silent to protect his invention, but you are not the author, you have nothing to lose by explaining your idea or showing your results.

fr: je ne comprends pas votre attitude. Ici c'est un forum pour partager,  échanger idées et trouvailles, pas pour cacher tout en laissant entendre que vous avez compris quelque chose.
Pierre se tait pour protéger son invention, mais vous vous n'êtes pas l'auteur, vous n'avez rien à perdre en expliquant votre idée ou en montrant vos résultats.

You started doing it. I and others invest their time and money, so have respect and show that you do it and do not wait for it. If you built it, maybe you would already know.
Do not worry, we're following in Pierre's footsteps so there's more of us.

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Good job ! Everything is nicely done :)

I used diodes: stth12r06d
Hi r2fpl,
Re message 811... What is this scope shot monitoring?
RegardsL192
« Last Edit: May 25, 2018, 02:55:14 PM by listener192 »

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Offline cheors

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You started doing it. I and others invest their time and money, so have respect and show that you do it and do not wait for it. If you built it, maybe you would already know.
Do not worry, we're following in Pierre's footsteps so there's more of us.

Yes, i started something
https://youtu.be/IqUf29SFd4A

Offline T-1000

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Yes, i started something
https://youtu.be/IqUf29SFd4A
Nice attempt just the coils are separate to each positition. This makes magnetic flux to interrupt before moving to next coil. You need 3/2 coiils for one pole which mean at least 3 coils for one magnetic pole sharing same core. So you can switch magnetic pole position in 3D space over same core without interruption.

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Yes, i started something
https://youtu.be/IqUf29SFd4A
Hi Cheors, very nice compact build!

I would guess you have 4 poles (NSNS) and you are driving 2 coils per pole (requires 2 half bridges)? Or do you have 8 poles with 1 coil per pole (NSNSNSNS) which would require 4 half bridges.

I note that for both cases you would have two poles of the same kind facing eachother at 180deg.

Can you post your schematic?

PmgR

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YES I SHARE , I D'ONT KEEP FOR MYSELF !!!!

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Offline cheors

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And Arduino program with Slow /Fast ranges:

YES I SHARE !!!

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/* Main.ino file generated by New Project wizard
 *
 * Created:    Mars 2018
 * Processor: ATmega328P
 * Compiler:  Arduino AVR

Champ tournant en 8 états

Version 7 avec toutes bobines à la fois AVEC courtcircuit bobines
Programme d'origine adapté au Arduino Nano
*/
int raz = 13;

#define Frequency A6
#define SlowFast A7

int T1 = 0;
int T2 = 0; //OVERLAPPING
int Slow;

void setup()
 {
  DDRB = 0b00000011; // PORTB D8 D9 EN SORTIE
  DDRC = 0b00111111; // PORTC en sortie sauf A6 A7
  DDRD = 0b11111111; // PORTD en sortie

  PORTC = 0;//Disable
  PORTD = 0;//Disable
 
  digitalWrite(raz, HIGH); // turn the raz on (relâche le reset au départ)
  pinMode(SlowFast,INPUT_PULLUP);
}

// the loop function runs over and over again forever
void loop()
{
 //Fast:
 T1 =map(analogRead(Frequency),0,1023,1,50);
if(T1 == 0)
{
 T1 =10;
}
T2 = T1; // A modifier éventuellement
Slow = analogRead(SlowFast);
 if(Slow <= 10)
   {
    T1=T1*10;
    T2 =T1;
    goto Slow;
   }
// de 0 à 9   = PORTD
// de 14 à 19 = PORTC
Fast:
  digitalWrite(0,HIGH),digitalWrite(14,HIGH),digitalWrite(9,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1);
  digitalWrite(2,HIGH),digitalWrite(16,HIGH),digitalWrite(19,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1); 
  digitalWrite(0,LOW),digitalWrite(14,LOW),digitalWrite(9,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  digitalWrite(3,HIGH),digitalWrite(17,HIGH),digitalWrite(18,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1);
  digitalWrite(2,LOW),digitalWrite(16,LOW),digitalWrite(19,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  digitalWrite(4,HIGH),digitalWrite(8,HIGH),digitalWrite(15,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1);
  digitalWrite(3,LOW),digitalWrite(17,LOW),digitalWrite(18,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  digitalWrite(5,HIGH),digitalWrite(9,HIGH),digitalWrite(14,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1);
  digitalWrite(4,LOW),digitalWrite(8,LOW),digitalWrite(15,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  digitalWrite(6,HIGH),digitalWrite(16,HIGH),digitalWrite(19,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1);
  digitalWrite(5,LOW),digitalWrite(9,LOW),digitalWrite(14,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  digitalWrite(7,HIGH),digitalWrite(17,HIGH),digitalWrite(18,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1);
  digitalWrite(6,LOW),digitalWrite(16,LOW),digitalWrite(19,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  digitalWrite(8,HIGH),digitalWrite(1,HIGH),digitalWrite(15,HIGH);
  delayMicroseconds(T1);
  digitalWrite(7,LOW),digitalWrite(17,LOW),digitalWrite(18,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  digitalWrite(8,LOW),digitalWrite(1,LOW),digitalWrite(15,LOW);
  delayMicroseconds(T2);
  goto Fast;

Slow:
  digitalWrite(0,HIGH),digitalWrite(14,HIGH),digitalWrite(9,HIGH);
  delay(T1);
  digitalWrite(2,HIGH),digitalWrite(16,HIGH),digitalWrite(19,HIGH);
  delay(T1); 
  digitalWrite(0,LOW),digitalWrite(14,LOW),digitalWrite(9,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  digitalWrite(3,HIGH),digitalWrite(17,HIGH),digitalWrite(18,HIGH);
  delay(T1);
  digitalWrite(2,LOW),digitalWrite(16,LOW),digitalWrite(19,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  digitalWrite(4,HIGH),digitalWrite(8,HIGH),digitalWrite(15,HIGH);
  delay(T1);
  digitalWrite(3,LOW),digitalWrite(17,LOW),digitalWrite(18,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  digitalWrite(5,HIGH),digitalWrite(9,HIGH),digitalWrite(14,HIGH);
  delay(T1);
  digitalWrite(4,LOW),digitalWrite(8,LOW),digitalWrite(15,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  digitalWrite(6,HIGH),digitalWrite(16,HIGH),digitalWrite(19,HIGH);
  delay(T1);
  digitalWrite(5,LOW),digitalWrite(9,LOW),digitalWrite(14,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  digitalWrite(7,HIGH),digitalWrite(17,HIGH),digitalWrite(18,HIGH);
  delay(T1);
  digitalWrite(6,LOW),digitalWrite(16,LOW),digitalWrite(19,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  digitalWrite(8,HIGH),digitalWrite(1,HIGH),digitalWrite(15,HIGH);
  delay(T1);
  digitalWrite(7,LOW),digitalWrite(17,LOW),digitalWrite(18,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  digitalWrite(8,LOW),digitalWrite(1,LOW),digitalWrite(15,LOW);
  delay(T2);
  goto Slow;
 }

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Hi r2fpl,
Re message 811... What is this scope shot monitoring?
RegardsL192

Hello everyone,

Is the rotor winding an oscillating circuit?

FR : Le bobinage du rotor est-il un circuit oscillant ?

MichelM

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And Arduino program with Slow /Fast ranges:

YES I SHARE !!!

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 }
Cheors, trying to go through your code to figure out how you are driving your coils. I noticed that you are not using D1 anywhere in your code. Can you describe how you are driving your coils.
PmgR


Edit: Never mind, I figured it out. You are driving 2 poles around, each consisting of 4 coils.

Offline partzman

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It is an honorable thing to respect Pierre's work from the vantage point of protecting the intellectual property of his generator.  However, the possibility exists in this case that prior art does exist and has been applied for through the US Patent Office.  The application in question is attached below and I would recommend that any interested replicators or otherwise study the claims of this application and also become familiar with the patent term DoE or Doctrine of Equivalents which is used as a main determinate in patent infringement.

It should be noted that as of this date, this application has not been issued as a final patent and this begs the question, why?

Regards,
Pm

Offline d3x0r

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It is an honorable thing to respect Pierre's work from the vantage point of protecting the intellectual property of his generator.  However, the possibility exists in this case that prior art does exist and has been applied for through the US Patent Office.  The application in question is attached below and I would recommend that any interested replicators or otherwise study the claims of this application and also become familiar with the patent term DoE or Doctrine of Equivalents which is used as a main determinate in patent infringement.

It should be noted that as of this date, this application has not been issued as a final patent and this begs the question, why?

Regards,
Pm
Nice find :)  Technically that's not prior art for DZ Generator because it uses its own switching instead of relying on external phases...


replication of CEG
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=245  (no success)


(Classifications)
H ELECTRICITY
H02 GENERATION; CONVERSION OR DISTRIBUTION OF ELECTRIC POWER
H02K DYNAMO-ELECTRIC MACHINES
H02K53/00 Alleged dynamo-electric perpetua mobilia

(these are both the same... subsequent versions of each)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20020125774A1/en?inventor=Alberto+Molina-Martinez
2002-03-06 US10091863 Abandoned
2002-09-12 US20020125774A1 Application
(WO2002095911) (international)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030168921A1/en?inventor=Alberto+Molina-Martinez
2003-01-27 US10351806 Abandoned
2003-09-11 US20030168921A1 Application


(Antimatter electrical generator)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070110208A1/en?inventor=Alberto+Molina-Martinez
2005-11-17 US11280636 Abandoned
2007-05-17 US20070110208A1 Application

Offline pmgr

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It is an honorable thing to respect Pierre's work from the vantage point of protecting the intellectual property of his generator.  However, the possibility exists in this case that prior art does exist and has been applied for through the US Patent Office.  The application in question is attached below and I would recommend that any interested replicators or otherwise study the claims of this application and also become familiar with the patent term DoE or Doctrine of Equivalents which is used as a main determinate in patent infringement.

It should be noted that as of this date, this application has not been issued as a final patent and this begs the question, why?

Regards,
Pm
Hi Partzman,

I have research this patent in the past. I believe the patent was abandoned by the author. In fact, if I recall correctly, someone from a forum contacted Molina/Martinez and he said that it wouldn't work when a load was attached. It might even have been Hartberlin who contacted him, not 100% sure.

PmgR

 

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