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Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 239828 times)

Offline keykhin

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Test mosfet 2xirf540n; 1 coil in stator;

8Hz

5V@1.2A
6V@2.2A
6.5V@3.8A

20V@ ??? A ???


IRF540 will overheat due to his high drain-source ON resistance Rds(on). Use IRF3205, it has Rds(on)= 0,008 ohm and can handle up to 110 Amp. And the most important thing is to use a proper gate driver circuit like IR2301. http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/datasheets/IR2301.pdf

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Offline seaad

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Stefan, all
N-N or S-S ends opposing each other makes the Flux Lines to "escape" from the iron core where they collides!  Is an iron core (perpendicular) nearby it sucs in the flux.  ,      Regards  / Arne
About Pierre's "100 % free energy step by step dz générator 2 ( part 1)" film.

Offline listener191

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Pierre's new build is starting to look like the reciprocal of the attached.

It also would seem from his previous comments about leaving a gap between the poles, that the idea is to keep the flux in the stator in the form of alternating polarity & rotating  pole sections, except for where the rotor is located, where the flux would cross the rotor to the opposite  pole.

L192

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Offline seaad

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Enhansed N-field with three coils or just coil A and B. Just playing.
SN-NS coils is more power consuming than SN-SN. (AC)

listener191
Not fed from DC anymore?

Offline e2matrix

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Those Crydom SSRs seem to be selling for between about 12 and 20 dollars US each, depending on ratings and quantity purchased. So say you need 72 of them to replace Pierre's relays.... Well, nobody ever said Free Energy would be cheap, I guess.

Who is going to spend that kind of money on something where the original claims are still not verified?

For this application a jarfull of cheap SMD mosfets, mosfet drivers, and a custom-designed PCB could probably be built to handle all the switching for under a hundred bux (estimated of course). The major time consumer would be designing the PCB and sending the design off to a fab house in China.



Yes SSR's would not be cheap.  $20 x 72 = $1440 or $12 x 72 = $864.   Or make your own as r2fpl said $2 x 72 = $144 and you have to build all those yourself.   So why not just do it the way Pierre did as I mentioned earlier for $45 you can get all 72 relays mounted with the Arduino ready board with 8 relays per board which appearidentical to what Pierre used?    For $45 you can verify if it all works versus spending hundreds of dollars to find out if a different method works which has never been shown to work yet.   Then if it works this way builders could try one of the solid state methods.   Seems the most logical and affordable way to go about this.  It also avoids introducing variables into a build which may prevent it from working.

Pierre's boards below and identical one from eBay for $4.87 each:

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Offline Jeg

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 Different coil topology. I am really curious to see how Pierre's secondary will be placed now. Same as before? Or winding like all normal torroid cores?

Pierre, merci de partager vos innovations. Bon travail ;)
Pierre, thanks for sharing your innovations. Great work ;)
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Offline Jeg

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Test mosfet 2xirf540n; 1 coil in stator;

8Hz

5V@1.2A
6V@2.2A
6.5V@3.8A

20V@ ??? A ???
Thanks for the report, and nice work. How many KW is your stator? Looks like 10 as Pierre's one.

Regards

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Offline r2fpl

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Thanks for the report, and nice work. How many KW is your stator? Looks like 10 as Pierre's one.

Regards

3,5Kw from e.motor

I have new 5,5Kw. Only 1cm diameter more.

Offline konehead

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Hi Everyone
I just got a 30 pole stator ready to go - saved all the plastic inserts - and am ready to wind a "DZ generator" stator as also I have a big spool of 22GA magnet wire, rated for motors and generators....
BUT now I am confused (as is usual) and watched Pierres most recent video (part 2) of his 10hp size stator, and he is now winding the coils on it very much different than his previous DZ generator (it seems) as now he is doing it straight across the core more or less rather than skipping over 5 or 6 slots as before....
So what should I do?
I like his newer stator windings method better just looking at that single coil he did in the part 2 video seems like it will make more power BUT perhaps since experiment and "improvement" maybe it will kill the whole reasons the DZ generator is so much overunity and looping?
What do you guys think? What would you do very briefly for some advice if you also had a 30 pole stator to wind up??
I am anxious to start but want to do it right....Gotoluc left message few days ago that his windings do not seem to be like Pierres (????_ in Poerres first prototype.. so am worried now about doing it exactly like Gotoluc did but maybe that is best idea?
Also it would be fun and very important too, to come to grips upoin exactly WHY this design of generator loops and gives so much overunity power!!! If we had really good idea it would not only help replications and improved designs and builds we all do, but will help out Pierre  by giving him idea and reasons for the looping and overunity so he will also understand much better....

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Offline r2fpl

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Hi Everyone
I just got a 30 pole stator ready to go - saved all the plastic inserts - and am ready to wind a "DZ generator" stator as also I have a big spool of 22GA magnet wire, rated for motors and generators....
BUT now I am confused (as is usual) and watched Pierres most recent video (part 2) of his 10hp size stator, and he is now winding the coils on it very much different than his previous DZ generator (it seems) as now he is doing it straight across the core more or less rather than skipping over 5 or 6 slots as before....
So what should I do?
I like his newer stator windings method better just looking at that single coil he did in the part 2 video seems like it will make more power BUT perhaps since experiment and "improvement" maybe it will kill the whole reasons the DZ generator is so much overunity and looping?
What do you guys think? What would you do very briefly for some advice if you also had a 30 pole stator to wind up??
I am anxious to start but want to do it right....Gotoluc left message few days ago that his windings do not seem to be like Pierres (????_ in Poerres first prototype.. so am worried now about doing it exactly like Gotoluc did but maybe that is best idea?
Also it would be fun and very important too, to come to grips upoin exactly WHY this design of generator loops and gives so much overunity power!!! If we had really good idea it would not only help replications and improved designs and builds we all do, but will help out Pierre  by giving him idea and reasons for the looping and overunity so he will also understand much better....

Start with electronics because it will be the same for the old and new generator. I think so.

Offline onielsen

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Hi Kone,

I don't think it matters much if the coils are spanning several slots or being split up into smaller coils between two neighboring slots. What matters is mixing the magnetic fields into coherence which represents more energy than single coils added do. I'm preparing an experiment using small ferrite transformers instead of a motor stator. You know from your forum that I like doing the experiments in small scale as electronics are scalable. It looks like Pierre's device isn't depending on resonance as the load can be changed without affecting its running. This is unlike the Jensen UDT and Hector transformer that both are affected by changing the load and both have to be fed reactive power for overunity. Pierre's new winding is more like Bob Boyce's way of putting poly phases into a single ring core. Tesla also did that in some of his patents. This forms rotating poles extending out of the ring core.

Pierre's first stator has the magnetic fields in parallel while the current is in series. This makes the stored energy coherent and makes the stored energy increase to the square of the current. In his new stator the magnetic fields are in series and the current is still in series I guess. The field through the blocked rotor core may still be in parallel and thus could become coherent. I.e. the field from two neighboring similar poles may become mixed into a coherent field representing more energy than the single fields added before being mixed. This is the principle of inversion of Wilbert B. Smith.

I'm currently designing only six bridge outputs for running six transformers which probably is the smallest number possible if it has to work like the device of Pierre. Pierre's device has some of the coils shorted which makes them act like permanent magnets even though having loss because of the resistance of the wires. It can be made simpler if the coils don't have to be shorted. Perhaps I should prepare for making it possible to switch between shorted and not shorted coils. The non-shorted coils will demagnetize and 'discharge' to the voltage supply rails through the parasitic diodes in the MOSFET outputs.

By the way people should also know about the Molina-Martinez (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030168921A1/en) and Hyun (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040007932) patent applications. They both claim overunity from ordinary three phased rotating fields and even from two phased fields (Hyun). They both use a locked rotor as secondary. This makes it possible to use a standard stator without having to rewind it by feeding it with three-phased AC. I haven't seen proof of this concept before the Pierre Cotnoir device.

Regards
Ole

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Offline konehead

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Hi R2
I plan on making brush copper commutator for this (15 pole and two N S brushes)
thanks for the good advice however but I am itching to wind the stator...
I wish I knew how and why it loops and is overunity I can only guess right now

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Hi Kone,
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I wish I knew how and why it loops and is overunity I can only guess right now

It mixes the magnetic fields into a coherent field.

The mathematics behind coherent fields as opposed to just fields of superposition by Janos Vajda: 'VIOLATION OF THE LAW OF ENERGY CONSERVATION IN WAVE FIELDS' https://feprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/energy_from_wave_fields_1-21.pdf.

Andrei Melnichanko also explains the principle: 'Opinion 1. Transgeneratsiya.'
http://www.google.dk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F13750%2Fmelnicenko-self-running-device%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F126928%2F&ei=qI4qUpjsI6fx4QTFxYEo&usg=AFQjCNH0k4YN33F_CslpOovifoNqOtsAIg&bvm=bv.51773540,d.bGE&cad=rja

and part two: http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://izob.narod.ru/p0007.html

And of course Wilbert B. Smith in 'The New Science' in chapter X  explains the Principle of Inversion without telling exactly how to practically do it: https://www.wanttoknow.info/energy/wilbur_smith_new_science#ch10forces.

Magnetic energy stored in a coil is coherent as it increases to the square of the current creating the field. Two equal but separate coils having the same current through them each represents say one unit of energy. Now let the coils share the same core (space) but having the turns in series and the same current as before through them. By doubling the number of turns quadruples the inductance of the coil. Having the same current through the coil gives four times the energy of a single coil. This makes the single coil of double the number of turns store twice the amount of energy as that of the two separate coils of the same current. This is just by mixing the magnetic fields into the same space.

The trick then is to input the fields in separate forms and mix them into a coherent field. Normally separate fields just pass through each other like beams of light and separates from each other like ocean waves crossing (superposition). But the fields have to become one single new field (coherent) just like a LASER beam which doesn't break up in different directions after having formed.

Regards
Ole

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What do you guys think? What would you do very briefly for some advice if you also had a 30 pole stator to wind up??'[/size]

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i think better replicate first generator. but maybe all his dz generators is fake? [/size]
i not be replicate any generator, because not enaught information how replicate and maybe this generators is fake. maybe i wrong.[/size]

Offline listener191

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What do you guys think? What would you do very briefly for some advice if you also had a 30 pole stator to wind up??'[/size]

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i think better replicate first generator. but maybe all his dz generators is fake? [/size]
i not be replicate any generator, because not enaught information how replicate and maybe this generators is fake. maybe i wrong.[/size]

Hi MenofFather,

Several theories have been tabled in this thread but I would say you need to rely on your own belief in a theory of operation.

If you don't believe that this has at least a 50% chance of producing a favorable result, then don't attempt a replication, as there is a lot of work and cost associated with the build.

Regards

L192


 

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