Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 521732
  • *Total Topics: 15549
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 3
  • *Guests: 7
  • *Total: 10

Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 192206 times)

Offline listener191

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 253
Hi listener191,


I think 12 coils all the time for 36 coils stator.

section from 1 coil sets (6 coils)...
section from 2 coil sets (6 coils)...


1on
2on
3off
..

later

1off
2on
3on

=12 coils all the time.

Hi r2fpl,

Look at the attached.

This is the point where Pierre is describing the pole transition problem.
It shows 6 transitions and you can only get this if all 36 coils are on.

Regards

L192
 



Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline r2fpl

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
Hi r2fpl,

Look at the attached.

This is the point where Pierre is describing the pole transition problem.
It shows 6 transitions and you can only get this if all 36 coils are on.

Regards

L192

listener191,

You want to say that it is always 36 coils power on and only their polarization changes in 6 ?

Offline MichelM

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 28
Hi listener191,

I think 12 coils all the time for 36 coils stator.

section from 1 coil sets (6 coils)...
section from 2 coil sets (6 coils)...

1on
2on
3off
..

later

1off
2on
3on

=12 coils all the time.

Hello r2fpl,

yes, always 36, just the magnetic fields rotation, according to the game of commutations. Look again : https://goo.gl/zAW2Ge


FR
oui, toujours 36, juste la rotation des champs magnétiques avec le jeu des commutations. Regardez à nouveau : https://goo.gl/zAW2Ge

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Sponsored links:




Offline seaad

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
When the coil shortening takes place, high spike's many kVolt in BOTH plus and minus direction occurs!
FR/   Lorsque le raccourcissement de la bobine a lieu, de nombreux kVolt de la pointe haute dans les deux sens plus et moins se produit!


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Sponsored links:




Offline seaad

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
Red = Down Orange = Up  The non connected diodes in opposite direction! FR/  Les diodes non connectées dans la direction opposée!

If I decrease the coupling Factor in the coil array more or less a Transformer the higher the spikes goes!

FR/   Si je diminue le facteur de couplage dans le réseau de bobines plus ou moins un transformateur, plus les pointes sont hautes!
« Last Edit: April 02, 2018, 07:43:36 PM by seaad »

Offline seaad

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
The consequence of the above discovered situation in my previous post.
 Depending of the coil connection situation// connection to Plus, or connection to Minus. The H-Bridge has to be protected with some VOLTAGE limiters both ways!

FR/   La conséquence de la situation découverte ci-dessus dans mon post précédent.
 Selon la situation de connexion de la bobine  // connexion à Plus, ou connexion à Minus. Le H-Bridge doit être protégé avec des limiteurs de VOLTAGE dans les deux sens!

Why were Pierre's diodes only connected to the plus rail? FR/   Pourquoi les diodes de Pierre étaient-elles uniquement connectées au rail plus?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Sponsored links:




Offline SkyWatcher123

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 820
Hi gotoluc, in regard to your 'all is one' thread.
Thank you for sharing, that seed of information is very helpful for many.
I love you without condition.
peace love light

Offline gotoluc

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3096
Hi gotoluc, in regard to your 'all is one' thread.
Thank you for sharing, that seed of information is very helpful for many.
I love you without condition.
peace love light

Thanks SkyWatcher123
My reply: http://overunity.com/17663/all-is-one-and-not-how-you-perceive-it-tout-est-un-et-non-comment-tu-le-perois/msg519316/#new

If anyone would like to contribute or ask positive questions, post here as SkyWatcher123 did.
Posts here will then be deleted in 24 hours.  I'm sure all understand why the topic needs to stay in visual mode only.

Fr. Si quelqu'un souhaite contribuer ou poser des questions positives, postez ici comme SkyWatcher123 l'a fait.
Les messages ici seront ensuite supprimés dans les 24 heures. Je suis sûr que tous comprennent pourquoi le sujet doit rester en mode visuel seulement.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline r2fpl

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
I analyze first set relays works:

transistor count from bottom right, relay label number

1 -   1,14
13 - 25,38
16 - 39,52
18 - 41,54

for first sets: (blue leds: 1,2,11,13,23,24) ->(labels relays 1,14,16,18,25,27,38,42,49,51,62,71)

When get 1-1,14 ok
13- 25,38 ok
... ok

When get first set 1,2,11,13,23,24 where is logical ?  How counts correctly ?

Offline MenofFather

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 943

Why were Pierre's diodes only connected to the plus rail?
How I draw, it colects Back EMF. And minus also gose to minus of supercaps.
In Half Bridge, of Full bridge topology BACK EMF always go to input source. On All Electric bikes motors and all DC BLDC motors also back EMF gose to input source thourth mosfet internal diodes. So no be Hight VOLTAGE spikes!

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline r2fpl

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
How I draw, it colects Back EMF. And minus also gose to minus of supercaps.
In Half Bridge, of Full bridge topology BACK EMF always go to input source. On All Electric bikes motors and all DC BLDC motors also back EMF gose to input source thourth mosfet internal diodes. So no be Hight VOLTAGE spikes!

If the transistor has a diode inside.

Offline seaad

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 310
Why were ALL (if I'm right?) Pierre's diodes only connected to the plus rail if it occurs negative spikes also?
 
MenofFather: Pierre used Relays not H-bridges or Fets.

I'm not using H-bridges, but the building guys here. So take care of the spikes!

Pourquoi toutes les diodes de Pierre (si j'ai raison!?) Sont connectées au rail plus si des pointes négatives se produisent également?
MenofFather: Pierre a utilisé des relais non H-ponts ou Fets.
Je n'utilise pas de ponts en H, mais les gars du bâtiment ici. Dus pas op de pointes!

Offline pmgr

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 153
    • Stop organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners
I analyze first set relays works:

transistor count from bottom right, relay label number

1 -   1,14
13 - 25,38
16 - 39,52
18 - 41,54

for first sets: (blue leds: 1,2,11,13,23,24) ->(labels relays 1,14,16,18,25,27,38,42,49,51,62,71)

When get 1-1,14 ok
13- 25,38 ok
... ok

When get first set 1,2,11,13,23,24 where is logical ?  How counts correctly ?
Take a look at the attached image. It outlines the various relays that are on at the same time.


Transistor 1 (T1) controls relays 1-14
T2 controls 3 and 16
T3 controls 5 and 18
...
T13 controls 25 and 38
....
T16 controls 31 and 44
...
T18 controls 35 and 48
...
T20 controls 39 and 52
...
T25 controls 49 and 62,
etc.
PmgR

Offline gotoluc

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3096
3 days ago I sent a message to Pierre asking him to confirm if his coils are powered in series. I've just received a reply from him which I translated and below is his original French message.

Fr. Il y a 3 jours j'ai envoyé un message à Pierre lui demandant de confirmer si ses bobines sont alimentées en série. Je viens de recevoir une réponse de lui que j'ai traduite et ci-dessous est son message original en français.

in my assembly there is 6 coils in series except that there is one that I feed for a fraction of a second so not to lose the magnetic field, so it leaves me with 5 coils operating in reality, example: 1 and 2 are powered by the positive and then 1 goes off to allow the magnetic flux to move etc. So in your case (Pierre is referring to my 30 slot) there should be 4 coils operating using the program I gave you which is good. The only thing I may of modified is the value x and y and played a bit with the speed. Everybody is making too much of a deal with the frequency. I already mentioned that the frequency meter may not of been correct. We can see all the uneven switching noise on the oscilloscope which affected the frequency meter. I adjust the potentiometer but most likely the frequency meter did not read the right frequency. Instead of having a discussion on frequency, people should be working on rotating the magnetic field. Then they can start playing with frequency and increase it to the desired speed.

Fr.
dans mon montage il y a 6 bobine en série sauf qu'il y a une que j'alimente pendant une fraction de seconde pour ne pas perdre le champ magnétique donc il me reste 5 bobine en fonction en réalité ex:1 et 2 sont alimenté par le positif et  puis 1 s'éteint pour déplacé le flux magnétique ainsi de suite dans votre cas il devrait  rester 4 bobine en fonction  en passant le programme que je vous ai donner est bon la seul chose que j'ai peut être modifier est la valeur x et y j'ai jouer un peut avec la vitesse et puis le monde s'en font vraiment trop pour la fréquence ,j'ai déjà mentionner que le fréquence de mon meter n'a peut-être pas  la bonne valeur avec  ce que j'ai vue a l'ociloscope  a cause des parasite la fréquence était anarchique j'ai ajuster le potentiometre mais il se peut que le fréquence meter n'a pas lue la bonne fréquence  avant de  parler de fréquence il devrait se concentrer par faire tourné le champ magnétique après ils pourront s'amuser avec la fréquence il suffit juste d'augmenter a la vitesse désirer
« Last Edit: April 03, 2018, 03:22:09 PM by gotoluc »

 

OneLink