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Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 260643 times)

Offline d3x0r

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Can someone(everyone?) share some specs about their coils?  What is the resistance of a drive coil?  how long is it? how many turns? what is the measured inductance (without the pickup core)?  what gauge wire?


how many strands can fit in one of those slots?  (Yes, more for higher gauge) so...

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You can find it here:  gotoluc,   listener192,  r2fpl, ariovaldo and my posts.

Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
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You can find it here:  gotoluc,   listener192,  r2fpl, ariovaldo and my posts.

Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
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Re: 170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video
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Re: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated
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Thanks.  You can right click on the link-title just above the 'reply#' and copy the link.
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according to...
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Tables/wirega.html
500 feet of gauge 10 wire would be 0.5Ohm.
Is that 0.526K Ohm?  Hmm no; because you'd need 20,000 feet of 24ga wire...

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cheors On your CurrentVariation pic : I'm Not convinced that Pierres diodes goes to both plus an minus ? See an earlier post of mine. Reply #477 on: April 16, 2018, Page 32,

Regards  Arne

Yes, impossible because the diodes are wired the same direction, anode with anode. I did not pay attention !
Were to connect the 2 cathodes ?
Not at the same point. They would be in parallel and the only justification would be a problem of power.
But it would be better then to choose more powerful diodes or to add heatsinks.
The only possibility is to find 2 different positives points.
Like this: what do you think?

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Jeg, " at 120Hz  can be used for sync" .  Agree. This is an odd connection with thin wire. Just a signal current?    About the freq. just leave that  :D :D
 Has it to do with the current consumption to his big transformer during charge and under operation?

My pics showing Volt and Amp with the Microwave Oven   OFF  and   ON.

Does anybody know "APME" the label on the Micro Oven?  A company??

Thats just an inventory label. Its a GE MO.

This is the model.

http://www.geappliances.ca/en/products/cooking/microwaves/applproducts/JES1138SNC#tab-Details

@41lbs This has a 60Hz line transformer.
The power 1500W @13A.




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Hi listener192
It's good you found the exact model of MO and that it really consumes 1500 Watt. After all Pierre seems to have produced 60 Hz despite that low 4Hz -->12-15Hz repettion frequency. But We can't  figure that out.
How??

But my question was about that sticker at top rigt hand side. "APME-MICR-029".
See Reply #622 on: April 23, 2018

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Hi listener192
It's good you found the exact model of MO and that it really consumes 1500 Watt. After all Pierre seems to have produced 60 Hz despite that low 4Hz -->12-15Hz repettion frequency. But We can't  figure that out.
How??

But my question was about that sticker at top rigt hand side. "APME-MICR-029".

Regards Arne

Why are you concerned about a sticker that has been applied, that is obviously not a GE applied item?

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Yes, impossible because the diodes are wired the same direction, anode with anode. I did not pay attention !
Were to connect the 2 cathodes ?
Not at the same point. They would be in parallel and the only justification would be a problem of power.
But it would be better then to choose more powerful diodes or to add heatsinks.
The only possibility is to find 2 different positives points.
Like this: what do you think?

 Maybe his first intention was as in your first drawing when he made the diode board. To + and - . But changed the concept later to parallel diodes.
Regards Arne

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Why are you concerned about a sticker that has been applied, that is obviously not a GE applied item?
L192

I was just curious about Pierre and Pierres possible connection to a company.
Arne

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I was just curious about Pierre and Pierres possible connection to a company.
Arne

I think it maybe counter productive to try and probe into Pierre's private life.

L192

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Just interested of his background and from where he got his skills
Arne

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Offline Jeg

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There are two factors which make sense wiring transistors and diodes in paralel: lowering resistance and eliminating generated heat.
Instead of wasting energy as heat I am also doing paralel diode connections in experiments when frequency and internal capacitance do not interfere.

Cheers!

Hi Arunas
I don't think this is the case here. Pierre uses diodes of a high breakdown voltage  and of enough current max rating for this job. My opinion is that Pierre made just a simple mistake here presenting both diodes of the same direction while it is of the opposite.

Regards

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reading in the past 'magic numbers'
the pairing is more like in this image as opposed to opposed...
there was also an early magnet simulation by pmgr would like to see that with a wider pitch on the poles... (n/s of fields separated by 60 degrees Nevermind found here, and here) .  There was a later supposed animated gif, but I couldn't get it to animate even in VLC.

And Re the diodes... 72 diodes. 72 relays, 1 feed from diode board to + .  No - (negative is on the other side of the coil/relay)   - -> relay -> (fork to diode) -> coil -> positive.  (electron current from - to +, when the relay opens, it wants to keep pulling - from the diode/relay side, which will pull eventually against the positive voltage).

But I don't really know how actually 2 relays + 1 coil = reversable coil... this scheme works, if either one or the other relay is activated, power causes a magnetic current.  But, when both are open, there is just a free-wheeling current in the coil and the diode does nothing...  Other ways I tried to hook it up, the diode ended up in parallel with the coil, which again ends up in a lossy short-circuit loop in the coil...

So I suppose each coil is charged...
I haven't finished going through the middle pages (20-40 and 1-20)


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I saw that 'pairing' diagram a few time... and while it's true that 1 and 6 are pared, and then 6 and 11 are paired, this does not mean that 1 and 11 are paired.


I colored paired coils (in a span, it's incorrect, span should have been 5, but this drew better) ... so when 2 is on because it's paired with 33, it's the opposite polarity from when 2 is on and 7 is it's pair.....
I highlighted under each with blue and red indicating the poles of the pairing.  The blue is always to the left of the red.
Doing the stepping better would have shown the rotation better....


(other 'fixed') but should be parallel not series...


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Image with pitch of 5 marked.  (for 36 coils).  pitch = ( ( coils / 6 ) - 1 )  ; although you can re-sequence it and use just 2 poles...
(too bad it was so late after  Reply #395 on: March 21, 2018, 05:43:39 PM »    "In Pierre's 36 slot he obviously has 6 coils or slots per pole and you can clearly see in the picture below his center core is exactly 6 slot wide."  ... yes, but that's because 2 coils are on at a time so it's (coil-slots + 1) = 6 (the width of the core)
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Hi Arunas
I don't think this is the case here. Pierre uses diodes of a high breakdown voltage  and of enough current max rating for this job. My opinion is that Pierre made just a simple mistake here presenting both diodes of the same direction while it is of the opposite.

Regards

No, there is only a positive return to the super caps.
There is no negative wire going to the diode board.
The current path for recovery is through the low side switch then through the chain of coils and through the diodes to the + rail.

Regards

L192

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No, there is only a positive return to the super caps.


Yes you are right. Hadn't notice that.  ;)

 

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