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Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 154190 times)

Offline pedro1

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Bonjour a tous,vous voulez savoir comment j'ai fait  du 60hz et bien regarder sur la video ou l'arduino il y a un potentiometre installer a droite et bien ce potentiometre servait a ajuster la vitesse de mes relais je me suis baser sur cela avec le frequence meter pour ajuster ma frequence mais comme je l'avait deja mentionner au debut du premier post  que je n'etait pas sure de ma lecture a cause des nombreux parasite que j'avait observer avec mon osiloscope jouet comme certaine personne l'on apeller avec cette apareil ma frequence était encore plus élever à 155hz alors j'ai bien vue qu'il y avait un problème en réalité vue ma piètre qualité de mes instrument pour la fréquence il est fort probable que je n'avait pas  60hz mais quand j'ai ajuster le pot je me suis ajuster sur le seul instrument que j'avait car je n'avait rien d'autre a quoi me fier .

En.  Hello everyone, you want to know how I achieved 60hz? well watch the video  there's a potentiometer installed on the arduino on the right.  This potentiometer was used to adjust the speed of my relays. I used it to adjust the frequency using my frequency meter but as I've already mentioned at the beginning of the first topic that I wasn't sure of my reading because of the peak noise seen my TOY  (like someone called it) oscilloscope.  With this device my frequency was even higher at 155hz, so I realized there was a reality problem with my poor quality instrument. So more then likely the frequency was not 60hz. However, when I adjusted the pot I used the only instrument I had because I had nothing else to trust.
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Offline TinselKoala

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The difference here is you have nothing invested and only doubts to offer even if you're not 100% sure.
So prove to us (without a doubt) how he was able to power the microwave oven from the uncoupled center coil.
We are reasonable individuals and will listen to a good presentation. However, you know that's not what you've been offering.


On the contrary. I analyzed the original claimed Arduino code and showed that it does not produce an even switching of all outputs and was written by someone with only rudimentary knowledge of Arduino programming. I tested the code to show that it ran on the Mega.  I have examined the rest of the available material closely, and you know I have a _great deal_ of experience in these matters. I have been "offering" you my valuable time and opinions, and I have been "offering" you the right way to go about examining this set of claims. I have "offered" time and money savings, which you have refused and even scorned. In contrast to being "reasonable individuals" you Luc and some of the rest of the people here have gone "all in" for something that you only _hope_ is real but cannot possibly be so, and for which there are many many reasons to believe it is NOT real. This is not the way "reasonable" people approach such matters.


Offline TinselKoala

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Bonjour a tous,vous voulez savoir comment j'ai fait  du 60hz et bien regarder sur la video ou l'arduino il y a un potentiometre installer a droite et bien ce potentiometre servait a ajuster la vitesse de mes relais je me suis baser sur cela avec le frequence meter pour ajuster ma frequence mais comme je l'avait deja mentionner au debut du premier post  que je n'etait pas sure de ma lecture a cause des nombreux parasite que j'avait observer avec mon osiloscope jouet comme certaine personne l'on apeller avec cette apareil ma frequence était encore plus élever à 155hz alors j'ai bien vue qu'il y avait un problème en réalité vue ma piètre qualité de mes instrument pour la fréquence il est fort probable que je n'avait pas  60hz mais quand j'ai ajuster le pot je me suis ajuster sur le seul instrument que j'avait car je n'avait rien d'autre a quoi me fier .

En.  Hello everyone, you want to know how I achieved 60hz? well watch the video  there's a potentiometer installed on the arduino on the right.  This potentiometer was used to adjust the speed of my relays. I used it to adjust the frequency using my frequency meter but as I've already mentioned at the beginning of the first topic that I wasn't sure of my reading because of the peak noise seen my TOY  (like someone called it) oscilloscope.  With this device my frequency was even higher at 155hz, so I realized there was a reality problem with my poor quality instrument. So more then likely the frequency was not 60hz. However, when I adjusted the pot I used the only instrument I had because I had nothing else to trust.

So from that it appears that you could have shown it operating at other frequencies depending on the pot setting. But you didn't. Why not?
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 10:37:19 PM by gotoluc »

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Offline r2fpl

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TinselKoala:

I will give you an example: Do you know Kapanadze? you know. Did you find the answer there whether it is true or false? you know it's a scam? probably not. So why do you doubt the Pierre device when for over 10 years you do not know how the Kapanadze device works.
Maybe the device is just as very difficult to reach and easy as you already know.

Offline seaad

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Thank you Pierre.

So your apparatus works obviously as a big frequency multiplier driving your MV-oven on parasites/ overtones.

Merci Pierre.
Donc, votre appareil fonctionne de toute évidence comme un multiplicateur de fréquence élevé conduisant votre four MV sur les parasites / harmoniques.

Cordialement Arne

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Offline gotoluc

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Pierre, if you wish to answer these guys that is your choice. However, one question will lead to another and then another. Then more will come and will justify what they ask for is normal. In no time pages useless justifications will fill up what was a clean and well maintained topic and then all will be diluted.
Over the years I have seen so many inventors get frustrated and to never come back.

It's your choice, I just want to warn you of the possible outcome

Regards
Luc

Fr.  Pierre, si tu veux répondre à ces gars-là, c'est ton choix. Cependant, une question mènera à une autre et ensuite à une autre. Ensuite, plus viendra et justifier ce qu'ils demandent est normal. En un rien de temps, les justifications inutiles rempliront ce qui était un sujet propre et bien entretenu et tout sera dilué.
Au fil des ans, j'ai vu tant d'inventeurs frustrés et ne jamais revenir.

C'est ton choix, je veux juste t'avertir du résultat possible

Cordialement
Luc

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Merci Luc de ton conseil!

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Offline gotoluc

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Luc
Questions forbidden!!

No, questions are not forbidden.
The problem is you are asking a question that has already been asked and answered which wastes the Inventors time and mine to write this. See in Bold below

Bonjour a tous,vous voulez savoir comment j'ai fait  du 60hz et bien regarder sur la video ou l'arduino il y a un potentiometre installer a droite et bien ce potentiometre servait a ajuster la vitesse de mes relais je me suis baser sur cela avec le frequence meter pour ajuster ma frequence mais comme je l'avait deja mentionner au debut du premier post  que je n'etait pas sure de ma lecture a cause des nombreux parasite que j'avait observer avec mon osiloscope jouet comme certaine personne l'on apeller avec cette apareil ma frequence était encore plus élever à 155hz alors j'ai bien vue qu'il y avait un problème en réalité vue ma piètre qualité de mes instrument pour la fréquence il est fort probable que je n'avait pas  60hz mais quand j'ai ajuster le pot je me suis ajuster sur le seul instrument que j'avait car je n'avait rien d'autre a quoi me fier .

En.  Hello everyone, you want to know how I achieved 60hz? well watch the video  there's a potentiometer installed on the arduino on the right.  This potentiometer was used to adjust the speed of my relays. I used it to adjust the frequency using my frequency meter but as I've already mentioned at the beginning of the first topic that I wasn't sure of my reading because of the peak noise seen my TOY  (like someone called it) oscilloscope.  With this device my frequency was even higher at 155hz, so I realized there was a reality problem with my poor quality instrument. So more then likely the frequency was not 60hz. However, when I adjusted the pot I used the only instrument I had because I had nothing else to trust.


This forum is only dedicated to believers. Or?
And many besides me have put many questions here.
My builds are small and I have showed some of them.

Regards Arne

So, as you can see you're complaining about something that you did not do and now others have to read this useless information and know you disturbed the inventor for nothing with an old question answered months ago.
That is the reality.

Regards
Luc

Offline cheors

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Pierre il est vraiment agaçant de nous avoir "aguiché" avec ton DZ générateur, de savoir que tu surveilles le forum, que tu veux nous aider, mais pas vraiment, que tu veux protéger ton invention mais on dirait que tu aimerais bien que nous trouvions les secrets que tu caches, ..
Bref difficile de comprendre ce qu'il faut faire.
Comme tu participes au forum, il est normal que nous posions des questions pour essayer d'avancer nous aussi (désolé Luc).
Je ne vois que 2 solutions :
1/ Pierre tu ne réponds plus, ne perds plus ton temps ici et donc construis plus vite ton 2ème appareil que nous attendons impatiemment.
2/ Tu réponds complètement et dévoiles tes secrets. Nous sommes probablement des centaines ici prêts à t'écouter, à répliquer ta technique, en rendant ainsi ta découverte Open source.
Je ne vois pas comment dans ce cas quelqu'un ensuite pourrait déposer un brevet.
Tous les membres du forum seraient des témoins de l'antériorité, de la paternité de ton DZ.

Bien sûr je préférerais le 2/, mais je respecte ton choix.

Bien cordialement.

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On the contrary. I analyzed the original claimed Arduino code and showed that it does not produce an even switching of all outputs and was written by someone with only rudimentary knowledge of Arduino programming. I tested the code to show that it ran on the Mega.  I have examined the rest of the available material closely, and you know I have a _great deal_ of experience in these matters. I have been "offering" you my valuable time and opinions, and I have been "offering" you the right way to go about examining this set of claims. I have "offered" time and money savings, which you have refused and even scorned. In contrast to being "reasonable individuals" you Luc and some of the rest of the people here have gone "all in" for something that you only _hope_ is real but cannot possibly be so, and for which there are many many reasons to believe it is NOT real. This is not the way "reasonable" people approach such matters.

Here, you're trying to show your support and you did do these things but it has a twist to it.
You were looking for flaws to be able to discredit the possibility of this device working as claimed.
However, all you could find is a small glitch in the Arduino program which may not even be a glitch and could of been part of another program sequence removed.
So even though you cannot provide evidence of a fake you decide it's not possible and it cannot work, right? 
That may be your science practices but you shoving it down our throats is not your business to do and on top of that without proof. Provide the proof and we will consider it and reward you for it.

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Luc

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So from that it appears that you could have shown it operating at other frequencies depending on the pot setting. But you didn't. Why not?

You know why!... so why don't you show us where the wire to the 60Hz grid is connected and help us stop this waste of time and money.

Regards
Luc

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Over the years I have seen so many inventors get frustrated and to never come back.
And how many of those "inventors" actually had the overunity, free energy devices that they claimed to have?


How many _real_ researchers with a real scientific background and valid experience have left, because of the nonsense they often encounter here?



Offline TinselKoala

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TinselKoala:

I will give you an example: Do you know Kapanadze? you know. Did you find the answer there whether it is true or false? you know it's a scam? probably not. So why do you doubt the Pierre device when for over 10 years you do not know how the Kapanadze device works.
Maybe the device is just as very difficult to reach and easy as you already know.
Once again, it is the responsibility of the CLAIMANT to provide uncontestable PROOF that his claims are true.

If you think the Kapa devices are real, can you explain why the Russian military hasn't confiscated them, locked Kapa up in some secret laboratory, and gone on to invade all of Georgia (again)?
All you people who believe in "suppression" have a really hard time squaring up the fact that Kapa hasn't been suppressed, yet you believe he has solved the problem. How many kids in Georgia are going to sleep hungry tonight, I wonder?

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And how many of those "inventors" actually had the overunity, free energy devices that they claimed to have?


How many _real_ researchers with a real scientific background and valid experience have left, because of the nonsense they often encounter here?

Chances are none of them had a real overunity device. But we'll never know with them gone!  right?
Is that what you want to happen here again?

Use your time to find how it was faked. That would be considered a contribution.

Okay, last post about this discussion. Back on topic or get deleted.

Regards
Luc

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Hi Luc
Can you block tinselkoala and delete his.posts too would be good idea as well. He thinks he is last word the judge and executioner his condescending insults and willingness to engage you or Pierre in endless arguments is going to ruin all that is good and productive here.

 

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