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Author Topic: Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated  (Read 153915 times)

Offline cheors

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D'où vient ce 60 Hz?
- pas du déplacement lent des particules (1/10 -1/50 Hz)?
- Pas de la rotation rapide des particules (4-5 Hz)?
- pas de l'ondulation du pont de diodes (120Hz) (si elle existe)?
Qu'est-ce que le fréquencemètre mesure précisément?

 Where does this 60 Hz come from  ?
- not from the slow particle displacement (1/10 -1/50 Hz) ?
- not from the fast particle rotation (4-5 Hz) ?
- not from the FWB ripple (120Hz) (if it exists) ?
What the frequencemeter is really measuring ?

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Offline listener192

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D'où vient ce 60 Hz?
- pas du déplacement lent des particules (1/10 -1/50 Hz)?
- Pas de la rotation rapide des particules (4-5 Hz)?
- pas de l'ondulation du pont de diodes (120Hz) (si elle existe)?
Qu'est-ce que le fréquencemètre mesure précisément?

 Where does this 60 Hz come from  ?
- not from the slow particle displacement (1/10 -1/50 Hz) ?
- not from the fast particle rotation (4-5 Hz) ?
- not from the FWB ripple (120Hz) (if it exists) ?
What the frequencemeter is really measuring ?


Exactly the correct questions to be asking.


L192

Offline konehead

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Hi Cheors
Probably the iron filings cling to the strong and overlapping harmonics and friction of glass and particles play part in what you see.
You would not expect those iron filings to all latch to field rotation and whirl around in solid ball at 60hz anyways

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Offline listener192

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Hi Cheors
Probably the iron filings cling to the strong and overlapping harmonics and friction of glass and particles play part in what you see.
You would not expect those iron filings to all latch to field rotation and whirl around in solid ball at 60hz anyways


When you see the magnet spinner placed in the stator it behaves like the rotor in a reluctance motor stepping with the poles as they rotate at a low rate.


L192

Offline Hope

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Adding to this design if possible,  very good work I see here.    The addition of magnetic field(s) to the bottom and top of a coil will cause a compression and just like gunpowder it can be directed to do greater things.   Are these schematics in the site library?
Video posts look well done.   


Been a long time,  good seeing so many old timers.

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Offline konehead

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Hi L192
The video clip of magnet spinner itnside stator doesn't cast too much doubt to me at least as 6 poles should rotate around 1350 rpm approx and camera distorts how it looks too so not any definitive proof concerning that video segment showing slower than advertised rotation.
What does cast doubt is fact Pierre is not open source,  keeps important secrets, and does not encourage or support  accurate replications rather encourages people to do their own thing while he himself is doing his own thing with new design.
Maybe this is just the way it should be and will be and will lead to much better more powerful more reliable designs and prototypes of revolving field generators.

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Hi L192
The video clip of magnet spinner itnside stator doesn't cast too much doubt to me at least as 6 poles should rotate around 1350 rpm approx and camera distorts how it looks too so not any definitive proof concerning that video segment showing slower than advertised rotation.
What does cast doubt is fact Pierre is not open source,  keeps important secrets, and does not encourage or support  accurate replications rather encourages people to do their own thing while he himself is doing his own thing with new design.
Maybe this is just the way it should be and will be and will lead to much better more powerful more reliable designs and prototypes of revolving field generators.
I don't believe Pierre knows himself why his first prototype worked (this is also what he initially stated; he was looking to the community for help). Not knowing that, it will be a random guess what the outcome of a new prototype will be. What are the chances of hitting the jackpot twice (unless the machine is rigged).... the most scientific and safe thing to do is to rebuild his first machine and figure out why it works (if it really did), then make improvements one step at a time. Many people advised him this, including myself, yet he is choosing to go a different way.
PmgR

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Bonjour pmgr , oui il est vrai qu 'au début de mes test du dz  je je comprenait pas tout sauf que avec un peut de recule et de réflexion je croit que j'ai réussi à pas mal comprendre ce que j'ai construit c'est pour cela que je me suis  investie dans un nouveau prototype oui il y a des chose qui n'on pas fonctionner dans mon premier dz mais elle seront améliorer dans la deuxième version et si vous penser que j'ai tricher  et bien reflechisser  au nombre d'heure et d'argent que cela prend a faire
 et demander vous quel serait mon but de dépenser autant d'énergie et de l'argent sur un autre prototype le fait de ne pas dévoiler tout mes secret est le fait que meme si j'aimerais que ce soit open source rien ne peut empecher quiconque ex:une multi national qui on beaucoup de moyen  de prendre mon idée et de se l'approprier il y a beaucoup de gens mal intentionner sur la planette alor tant que mon deuxieme prototype ne seras pas terminé  testé, confirmer et proteger je vais m'abstenir de tout devoiler mes secret  mais  je me garde l'option de vous guider dans la bonne direction parfois  dite vous que tout ce que je vous lai ecrit était pour vous diriger dans la bonne direction a vous de  vous en servir ou pas de mon côté je sait exatement ou je vais et je comprend ce que je fait , le plus que je peut faire pour l'instant est de vous encourager a faire vos experience mais pas plus pour l'intant .                                                                                             Pierre c.

En.  Hello pmgr, yes it's true that at the beginning of my DZ tests I did not understand everything, except with a bit of retreat and reflection I think I managed to understand a lot of what I built. That's why I invested in a new prototype.  Yes, there are things that don't work in my first dz but I will improve them in the second version . If you think that I cheated, then think carefully of the number of hours and money it takes to build this and ask yourself what would be the point of spending so much time and money on building another prototype?
The fact that I don't reveal all my secret is the fact that even if I would like to open source it, nothing would prevent anyone like a multi national that has a lot of resources to take my idea and claim ownership.  There's also many ill intended people in the world. So until my second prototype isn't finished, tested, confirm and protected, I'm going to refrain from revealing all my secrets but I'll keep the option of guiding you in the right direction. Maybe ask yourself if all I wrote was to direct you in the right direction?... it's up to you to use it or not.  On my side I know exactly where I'm going and I understand what I do. The most I can do for now is to encourage you to do your experiments but nothing more at this time.
Pierre C.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 03:24:14 PM by gotoluc »

Offline r2fpl

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Pierre, please answer: What is responsible for the fact that there is more energy?

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Offline Jeg

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I don't believe Pierre knows himself why his first prototype worked (this is also what he initially stated; he was looking to the community for help).

Even if he stated this, as a builder i know that there is not even a small chance for that. Pierre knows very well how and why his prototype works. There is no doubt from my part. There is no lack or accidental discoveries on this athlete. Especially when looking at mega-builds like the DZ gen.

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Hi Jeg
I disagree and think that Pierre did not fully understand  how his first DZ generator in videos worked and why it worked so well.  He asked for help to understand it better.  So give him that in return for making it public demonstration on youtube.

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Offline pedro1

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yes it has things that I did not understand at the beginning but now I find by myself the answers to my question when I tell you that you have to take the time to take a break and think about it and that's it

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Hi Jeg
I disagree and think that Pierre did not fully understand  how his first DZ generator in videos worked and why it worked so well.  He asked for help to understand it better.  So give him that in return for making it public demonstration on youtube.

Dear konehead,
even if i answered before reading Pierre's answer, as you see he stated:

"...vous de  vous en servir ou pas de mon côté je sait exatement ou je vais et je comprend ce que je fait , .."
which means: ..

"..you use it or not on my side I know exactly where I'm going and I understand what I'm doing,.."

Pierre is a great engineer who knows his device better than what we do, or than what we would like to believe.

Regards


Offline r2fpl

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Pierre, you certainly did other tests before DZ. What prompted you to a large version, what experiment?

You give us tips but you do not say what is the effect. Are they coils on short circuit?

Offline pedro1

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Il n'y a pa de magie ou de résonance ou tout autre chose c'est simplement une aimant qui passe devant une bobine sauf qu'il faut juste replique cette idee corectement la rotation n'est qu'un aspect cherchez dans cettte direction et vous produirer un surplus d'energie

En.  There is no magic or resonance or anything else.  It's just a magnet that passes in front of a coil, except that you have to replicate this idea properly.  Rotation is only one aspect.  Look in that direction and you will produce a surplus of energy
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 07:27:08 PM by gotoluc »

 

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