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TommeyReed

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2023, 02:03:50 AM »

If you study all the claims of how the Clem Engine worked, no body has ever made a working prototype.

But if you look at physics of whats really going on with cooking oil, high pressure and heat. It is a type of a diesel engine using cooking oil.

You do know a diesel engine will run on cooking oil don't you?

This is how if it was real would have to work in the real world.

The phase change is were the power comes from, not the rotating fluids!

Tom

aussiebattler

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2023, 05:54:51 AM »

Tommy
Basic physics tells us that as pressure of a liquid increases so does it's temperature. Now if you have liquid flowing in tapering chanels while revolving at high speed you will get some very high pressure at the extremities. If you then release that liquid through small orifices you are setting up the "venturi effect" where the liquid will release energy giving up temperature in the process . The energy loss can then be restored by absorbing heat from the atmosphere -even on cold days . The result is no cost of fuel for 24/7 /365 and
suitable for all kinds of applications.
Do you think the oil companies or the wind and solar boys like this one?

AB

TommeyReed

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2023, 01:05:16 PM »
Hi AB,

Again, those who believe they know how the Clem engine worked, is not based on building any prototype as a example; but a theory.

So going back and forth is not going any where, let me ask you how the Clem engine worked?

What experiments do you have to back up your theories?

Tom

mäxchen

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2023, 01:24:27 PM »
Hi,

maybe you find this interessting:

THE CLEM ENGINE AND ITS MICRO-DIESELING PHENOMENON
https://www.academia.edu/81195428/THE_CLEM_ENGINE_PART_1

my small prototype, still under construction

aussiebattler

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2023, 05:02:45 PM »
Good question Tom In fact I am right at the end near to  having an answer for you . Will keep you informed as perhaps you will too
Cheers
AB

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2023, 07:21:39 PM »
I think your on the right track aussiebattler. Clem motor or the motor he based his patent off of mentions nothing of burning any such oil or references to any diesel motor. I have studied it myself and almost built it but no time now.

Reminds me of the 40K Hydro blaster I used when I was younger scooting me across the catwalk when my boots had oil on them or ice in the walkway. So much power and pressure that I had to tie myself to it to keep from sliding. Of course the safely man shit a brick when he seen me. ;D

ramset

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2023, 08:02:31 PM »
If you study all the claims of how the Clem Engine worked, no body has ever made a working prototype.

But if you look at physics of whats really going on with cooking oil, high pressure and heat. It is a type of a diesel engine using cooking oil.

You do know a diesel engine will run on cooking oil don't you?

This is how if it was real would have to work in the real world.

The phase change is were the power comes from, not the rotating fluids!

Tom
Sorry to interrupt
It’s just that I absolutely understand that Mr.Reed is _not_
Writing about consumables ( burning anything)


 A “phase change” ( moisture in the mix?)
Is an absolute monster if it can be _steered_ …towards a specific direction …
Pressure etc ( lots of pressure  …similar to or “like” a diesel… )


A design which through rotation, manifests a “directional” (not unidirectional which would just stall) phase change ,
And resulting output power which is off the charts (350 hp?)
No burning of anything!
Directional phase change forcing rotation ( as written “a type” of diesel ( creating much heat and pressure)


Sorry again to interrupt
Just wanted to clarify the assumption of burning!
Respectfully
Chet K






TommeyReed

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2023, 10:55:08 PM »
Hi All,

Many people want to make claims of how the Clem engine worked, but when ask what facts do you have, silence!

When someone is making claims like Richard Clem did, do you think they will explain how it really worked? Anyone could be a sales person by making unbelievable claims, the remark of not using Cooking oil and getting 150,000 miles on 8 gallons of cooking oil is one of them.

150,000 miles /60 = 2500 hours and yet he is adding cooking oil to his car.

A phase change is how it worked, take 300+ deg oil and add some water and you have a explosion. I fully understand I could be the only one that built more prototypes of a Clem engine then most people realize.

Some say I'm the expert in this field, others would claim without building a single unit, they know how it works.

I did test beyond 800 psi with oils, the temperature are off the charts. I even had internals cavitation explosion occur that sound like a gun going off.

I see other Claims of people like Donny Watts. I even made one unit 4 ft in diameter, yet no extra energy was create from centrifugal forces.

If the Clem engine was for real, it had to go though a phase change something like water to steam where 1:1600 output.

The real facts will speak for them self when I complete a fully working unit that deals with a type of phase change needed to run.

Is it Over Unity, NO!

Tom.

aussiebattler

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2023, 12:25:36 AM »
greetings fellow geniuses  :D

Perhaps there are many ways to make a Clem  8)

ab

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2023, 08:28:28 PM »

TommeyReed

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2023, 10:29:40 PM »
?

Nothing more then a pump, no extra energy you will get out of it.

Yes, I did these type of experiment from the start. Much bigger and won't spin without a motor.

Tom...


ramset

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2023, 02:55:13 PM »
Sir Maxchen
Welcome to forum
It is IMO very nice you use the everyday Appliance for research !
(As long as you don’t get caught by the “kitchen boss”)


More people can experiment this way … the more hands and eyes the open source research community Has the better !
( please remember a shield around it …in the event you get a good result ( the blender to “the slaughter”!!
As researcher Helmut use to say )



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Hi,maybe you find this interessting:THE CLEM ENGINE AND ITS MICRO-DIESELING PHENOMENONhttps://www.academia.edu/81195428/THE_CLEM_ENGINE_PART_1my small prototype, still under construction


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Respectfully
Chet
PS
Seeing if your document can be added to forum file open source data base .


mäxchen

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2023, 09:31:47 PM »
It's more a replica of Schaubergers Sogwendel, than the Clem Engine. But there are many similiarities.
Im no fan of calculations, more try and Error.
Print it, test it.
If it's not working, at least its Art.
I'm trying to investigate the negative friction phenomen, from Pöppels Experiment / Drallrohr (Helix Pipe)
So maybe i should start an own Thread about this?

Greets from Austria



ramset

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2023, 10:24:29 PM »
New topic
Yes please!
Respectfully
 Chet

sm0ky2

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Re: A fresh look at the Clem motor
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2023, 04:10:17 AM »
I’ve sat on the sidelines on this one for years.
I apologize for never taking a look at it….


Horsch (did i spell that right)
Vortex Tube thermal seperator


So try to follow along:


The rotating vortex of air seperates hot and cold air from the ambient
the hot air is jetted out of the nozzles, the force of which is pressure dependent:
Pressure is temperature dependent…..


Therefore, increases in temperature of the output air increases the rotation of the vortex


There seems to actually be a temperature where this force exceeds the driving force required for the vortex tube to function.


This machine may check out, don’t give up


Hope this helps. Life is happening again, so i wont be building for a few months, but i am rather interested in this one now, so its on my list.