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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 1458743 times)

Offline norman6538

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3555 on: December 30, 2017, 02:01:07 AM »

someone said that

"The oil rigs use large motors to keep the pendulum swinging"

I maintain that the rotating weight is a counter weight that matches the
weight of the oil in the well such that when properly balanced only oil
being removed at the top requires work. But that counter weight also shifts
left and right and thus changes the leverage from more to less leverage as needed.

Also consider the Hand water pump
with a long handle and a weight it end - the counter balance. If the weight
was too heavy the handle would always hang down and if the weight
was too small then the handle would always stay up. But properly balanced
the handle will stay where it sops.

So the oil rig has 2 factors - the varying leverage and the rotating counter weight
that balances and unbalances the oil in the well.

What would make this device what it is supposed to be would be if the counter weight could be
rotated with a small force and then lift a larger force - it could be cascaded and would work
all on its own when looped back to itself.

What I always thought might be possible would be to sync 2 rigs together such that one weight
was rotating up and the other down and they even out the work required to turn them. It seems to
me that two wells could be pumped for the power to operate just one well.

I have tried many ways to sync two devices so that they offset each other. My best results came from the
bicycle crank like device that captured centrifical twisting force when the equal weights moved up and down
with little effort but when those weights were horizontal they would twist from the centrifical force if they were mounted
on flat pivot.

Norman

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Offline Merg

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3556 on: February 01, 2018, 11:56:13 PM »
New book by Dr. Dennis Allen, a US mathematician and retired university professor, analyzes Veljko Milkovic’s experiments with the pendulum cart at the highest scientific level using mathematics…

WHY DOES CLASSICAL MECHANICS FORBID INERTIAL PROPULSION DEVICES WHEN THEY EVIDENTLY DO EXIST?

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dennis_Allen_Jr/publication/322303380_WHY_DOES_CLASSICAL_MECHANICS_FORBID_INERTIAL_PROPULSION_DEVICES_WHEN_THEY_EVIDENTLY_DO_EXIST_A_MAJOR_REVISION_OF_THE_AUTHOR%27S_POINT_OF_VIEW_BASED_UPON_PROF_WALTER_NOLL%27S_OBSERVATIONS_PRIOR_TO_HIS_AXIO/links/5a529520458515e7b72cb075/WHY-DOES-CLASSICAL-MECHANICS-FORBID-INERTIAL-PROPULSION-DEVICES-WHEN-THEY-EVIDENTLY-DO-EXIST-A-MAJOR-REVISION-OF-THE-AUTHORS-POINT-OF-VIEW-BASED-UPON-PROF-WALTER-NOLLS-OBSERVATIONS-PRIOR-TO-HIS-AXIOMA.pdf

This book describes the experiments Veljko Milkovic conducted many decades ago using the horizontal pendulum drive effects for testing the self-propelled vehicles with internal drive…

Cart with a pendulum - Vehicles with internal and inertial drive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foY5r2TMOo

Superiority of Pendulum Drive - Potential Energy to Kinetic Energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs

Independent Polish replica of Milkovic’s pendulum cart experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlSidrDs21w

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3557 on: February 02, 2018, 12:44:50 AM »
The propulsion of the cart is great but what can you do with it?
if its just horizontal motion that is quite easy.
to validate this one would need to measure the work to
position the ball - lift is a measured distance giving the
work in and then measure the work  out. To measure the work
out I would use a small weight on a string and see how small
a weight could move it the same distance. Then you would
know the work out - mass times distance.....

Norman


Cart with a pendulum - Vehicles with internal and inertial drive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foY5r2TMOo

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3557 on: February 02, 2018, 12:44:50 AM »
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Offline Merg

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3558 on: February 09, 2018, 01:13:13 PM »
New replica with the precise measuring – possible overunity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqgTjo7LjdA
 

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3559 on: February 16, 2018, 05:10:59 PM »
Merg, no "possible" but real over unity

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3559 on: February 16, 2018, 05:10:59 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3560 on: February 16, 2018, 06:05:18 PM »
Sir
could you post a bigger view of your setup ?

I can assure you it would be a good move [to generate more interest / replication !
"your ??" vid link again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqgTjo7LjdA


much gratitude

Chet K


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3561 on: April 06, 2018, 12:11:45 AM »
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Offline kratkaforma

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3562 on: April 15, 2018, 01:36:49 PM »
No other topic here on overunity does not have so much scientific conformations, and proofs

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3563 on: April 15, 2018, 01:55:18 PM »
So after 240 pages of information and we still cannot buy a Milkovic device off the shelf.
What does that say?

I still claim that there is a lack of solid measurements.

This device works similar to the oil well pump that has a rotating counter weight that
changes the leverage as it rotates so reciprocation results.
And it has been used to pump water like a hand pump. The long arm hand pumps
I remember were largely weight/leverage balanced such that all you really needed to
do was lift the water out of the top of the pump so it flows out - it did not have to lift
the entire rod and water that went down to the bottom of the well. The rest of the water column
was balanced by the long and heavy handle. So if you replaced that heavy handle with
a wooden handle it would take more work to lift all the water up and out of the pump.

So to lift a half gallon of water several feet was no big deal once the pipe was fully
primed because the foot valve often leaked and left the water down.

Did I miss something really big?

Norman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3563 on: April 15, 2018, 01:55:18 PM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3564 on: April 23, 2018, 12:45:13 PM »
Please take a look at this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwlKWcO79J0
and don't think about oil pump since this is something difference..
Oil pump does not have a pendulum, and Milkovics pendulum has specific way of working - with
scientific references and patents; Also, Milkovic made improvements with elastic pendulum.

Offline norman6538

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3565 on: April 23, 2018, 11:43:23 PM »
Please take a look at this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwlKWcO79J0
and don't think about oil pump since this is something difference..
Oil pump does not have a pendulum, and Milkovics pendulum has specific way of working - with
scientific references and patents; Also, Milkovic made improvements with elastic pendulum.

I did see that but I heard no one visited the machine nor replicated it no explain how it works.
Did you?

Norman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3565 on: April 23, 2018, 11:43:23 PM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3566 on: May 03, 2018, 12:22:34 PM »
Go to milkovic's website on section "opinions on inventions":  http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/MisljenjeEng.html
and take a look about things you want.. and new informations are coming



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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3569 on: August 09, 2018, 12:13:48 PM »

More from Raymond Head:


Magnetic Drive For 2 Stage Oscillator [part 1 ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5kn-FbPRM


Magnetic Drive For 2 Stage Oscillator [part 2 ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1TmZ6yCfCo


Electro magnet switch for TSO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TKOjQKRv6Y

 

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