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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 1971990 times)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3452 on: September 08, 2015, 08:12:13 PM »
I did not see any work in and work out measurements in any of the 4 papers that I read.
Any real paper worth its salt would need that.

Norman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3453 on: September 20, 2015, 11:46:53 PM »
I did not see any work in and work out measurements in any of the 4 papers that I read.
Any real paper worth its salt would need that.

Norman

You should check this paper and book:

Two-stage oscillator mechanism for operating a reciprocating pump

http://journalajst.com/sites/default/files/Download%201339.pdf

Neue Experimente mit Freier Energie
http://www.franzis.de/franzis/area/download-shop/do_download.jsp;jsessionid=924C43B7258547594D04A825DDC262EF?actionRequest=download&downloadOID=2842898&mediaOID=2842936

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3454 on: September 21, 2015, 01:46:32 AM »
Merg said


You should check this paper and book:

Two-stage oscillator mechanism for operating a reciprocating pump

http://journalajst.com/sites/default/files/Download%201339.pdf


What table 3 says on the last page is less output than input.
What did you mean? what page/paragraph? What did I miss?

Norman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3455 on: September 29, 2015, 11:33:29 PM »
New video of Veljko Milkovic

Pendulum slow motion
Slow motion video of maintaining the pendulum motion by hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Mh70gbpLE

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3456 on: September 30, 2015, 02:55:50 AM »
New video of Veljko Milkovic

Pendulum slow motion
Slow motion video of maintaining the pendulum motion by hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Mh70gbpLE

Slow motion looks very easy BUT there are no measurements....
work in vs work out.....
Till then its just an interesting idea.

Norman

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3457 on: September 30, 2015, 07:38:02 PM »
I agree. There's no work being done here. He's simply tapping the pendulum with the screwdriver adding the small bit of energy lost in the swing. What is that supposed to prove?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3458 on: October 01, 2015, 04:14:33 PM »
Some earlier measurements

Mk 5 Input/Output Determination Through Load Cell Measurement
http://www.pendulum-lever.com/docs/Ronald_Pugh_Input-Output_Measurement_Mk5.pdf

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3459 on: October 04, 2015, 05:21:18 PM »
New video of Veljko Milkovic

MILKOVIC PENDULUM - two-stage oscillator with a flexible pendulum drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xm9RPVgdw

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3460 on: October 04, 2015, 05:47:18 PM »
New video of Veljko Milkovic

MILKOVIC PENDULUM - two-stage oscillator with a flexible pendulum drive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xm9RPVgdw

so many videos ... BUT there are no measurements....

this pump is not very efficient this is not a good proof !
(a lot of manual pump do the same)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3461 on: October 09, 2015, 06:04:58 PM »
A video from the 2015 Energy Science & Technology Conference (USA)
by Aaron Murakami

Veljko Milkovic - 2 Stage Mechanical Oscillator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbQjaTZEPjI

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3462 on: October 15, 2015, 02:28:21 AM »
A new paper from India

A Review on Pendulum Pump
Prof. Dipak S Welkar, Master. Ankit S.Shinde, Prof. N. A. Jadhav
Guru Gobind Singh Polytechnic, Nashik, India
http://ijtsh.com/Papers/2-DSW.pdf

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3463 on: October 15, 2015, 07:30:25 AM »
A new paper from India

A Review on Pendulum Pump
Prof. Dipak S Welkar, Master. Ankit S.Shinde, Prof. N. A. Jadhav
Guru Gobind Singh Polytechnic, Nashik, India
http://ijtsh.com/Papers/2-DSW.pdf

look at this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpjack

are you Re-Inventing The Wheel ?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3464 on: October 15, 2015, 01:41:52 PM »
A new paper from India

A Review on Pendulum Pump
Prof. Dipak S Welkar, Master. Ankit S.Shinde, Prof. N. A. Jadhav
Guru Gobind Singh Polytechnic, Nashik, India
http://ijtsh.com/Papers/2-DSW.pdf

This sounds great but what is missing is the numbers ie. power in instead we
get this vague statement "
the battery pump can run continuously for at least 3 hours. As there is
no need of electricity to charge the battery".
My guess is that the battery will need to be charged eventually.
If not where is the charging circuit????

this indicates it needs to be charged " No need to run the vehicle only for charging the battery. At once the battery is charged pump can be run for 3-4 hours by using the battery."

Where is the simple science? power in and power out?

Norman