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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 1739712 times)

Offline Low-Q

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3360 on: June 14, 2015, 07:43:00 PM »
Difference between in kindergarten and graduated from kindergarten.

In kindergarten, one listens to everything.  One treats every piece of information as valuable.

After graduation, one selects.

I know that there are flying saucers made in USA and made in China.  The stories of UFOs are not all hoaxes.

I know that the 225 HP Pulse Power motor funded by Andrew Wong of Hong Kong existed.  I know that the Tsinghua University QMOGEN was operational since 1996.  I can explain their operations.

I can design a flying saucer using the King David Sling technology.

All the useless and irrelevant comments and posts will not be "absorbed" or considered.

When will USA or China disclose their top secret?
  When will another Nation do the research and demonstrate the lead-out energy flying saucer?  The new paradigm is inevitable.  It was similar to the Internet 40 years ago.  The visionaries could see and created the light.  After 40 years, almost all can see the light.

Lawrence
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Exacly. That is why we do not absorb or consider your post. Thanks for reminding us.


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3361 on: June 15, 2015, 12:27:08 AM »
Discussion on Sunday

Person A: "The King David Sling theory is simple.  It is the engineering that prevents the average garage mechanic from building it."

Person B: "What happens if we get everyone discussing it -  Universities, Colleges, Schools, Machine Shops, Governments, aircraft companies etc.?"

Person A: "We can get the University professors treat Flying Saucer design as student projects.  The bright students of the World will come up with all sorts of ideas.  The theory is simple."

Person C: "According to Lawrence Tseung, such flying saucers have been built by USA and China.  Why should we waste time and resources?"

Person A: "According to Lawrence Tseung, the 225 HP Pulse Motor and the Tsinghua QMOGEN were working decades ago.  But they became top secret and could not come out to benefit the World."

Person B: "Getting publicity is easy in the Internet World.  Getting dozens of debunkers to scream and create a controversy is within reach.  Some get paid.  Create an atmosphere similar to the "magnificent men and their flying machines" will be fun.  The working flying saucer will emerge."

Tseung: "Thanks for the input."

Divine Wine flows.  Many home-made wines or drinks will also emerge.  Some may not be good for your health.  Use your judgment...

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3362 on: June 15, 2015, 12:49:48 AM »
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3363 on: June 15, 2015, 04:48:30 PM »

The reacive forces you find in a spinning disc cannot do work. Google reacive power, or reactive force.

Reactive forces?

Are they analogous to reactive power in electrical circuits?

Would you expand on mechanical reactive forces and power for us?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3364 on: June 16, 2015, 09:04:15 PM »
Ninth Design of the Flying Saucer

Since the Magnet in a Donut Tube engineering is difficult, the ninth design makes it easier for the garage mechanic.

1. The normal wheel type arrangement is used.
2. The Magnet is repelled by the Drive Coil to obtain additional energy and velocity.  One or more collectors will drain the energy and slow down the velocity.
3. Starting can be via rotation of the axle.
4. The difference in angular velocity will give higher CF force on top.
5. Net force is upwards.  (Net weight expected to decrease when the unbalanced wheels spins with higher angular velocity at top than at bottom.)

Can a garage mechanic really build such a device?  Will some Hong Kong or China machine shops do it?

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3365 on: June 17, 2015, 03:22:52 PM »
This design owes a fair amount to the Robert Adams motor.

As a generator, it is interesting - particularly if you reclaim collapsed field energy - but I cannot see any shaft wobble propelling anything.

I think you should sideline all this space ship stuff and stick to energy generators where they is likely to be more mileage.

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« Reply #3366 on: June 18, 2015, 02:01:28 AM »
This design owes a fair amount to the Robert Adams motor.

As a generator, it is interesting - particularly if you reclaim collapsed field energy - but I cannot see any shaft wobble propelling anything.

I think you should sideline all this space ship stuff and stick to energy generators where they is likely to be more mileage.

Since I am not building any prototype myself, I want to stimulate the "students" to use their imaginations.  The lead-out energy flying saucer is a very powerful stimulant.

You are encouraged to use your own imagination also.  The Internet is successful because of the many thousand innovators imagining all possible approaches and applications.

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3367 on: June 19, 2015, 10:48:11 PM »
From the discussion with an American:

American: "You should not disclose any technology related to the Flying Saucer.  It should remain top secret."

Tseung: "Why?  The Technology will benefit the World."

American: "It will defeat all Star War Defenses. Nuclear bomb carrying flying saucers might get to American Soil."

Tseung: "We do not want to use Lead-out Energy Flying Saucers for military purposes."

American: "You are not in power.  There might be leaders such as Hitler in one of the Nations.  If he gets hold of this technology and the nuclear bombs..."

Tseung: "USA is unlikely to disclose the top secret...  It may send the debunkers to discredit the scientists and engineers.  The theory is out and the technology is within the capability of many Nations.  We must turn this into peaceful use to benefit the World."

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3368 on: June 20, 2015, 01:56:49 AM »
I shall use the attached form to help to promote the spread of the Flying Saucer Knowledge.

The presenter will be given the presentation material and the attached form.  He/she will receive HK$100 for every form with 100 signatures.  I can allocate HK$1,000 for this exercise.  This means at least 1,000 persons in Hong Kong would have heard the presentation. 

The completed forms will be posted here.

Any ones wants to be a presenter?   

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3369 on: June 20, 2015, 08:07:25 AM »
Question: "Will the Chinese Government be upset if the top secret is revealed?"

Answer: "USA already knows that China has full knowledge of the 225 HP Pulse Motor, the QMOGEN that could increase INPUT 30 times and the Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer."

Question: "Knowledge is one thing.  The actual development stage is another."

Answer: "It is a matter of time when the top secret is revealed.  China is selecting the right time."

The right time is likely to be - a third Nation announces the demonstration...
(An unlikely candidate may be Philippines, Thailand or Indonesia.  The domestic helpers gather by the thousands every weekend.  Some can understand the King David Sling scenario. )

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3370 on: June 20, 2015, 09:53:15 AM »
This design owes a fair amount to the Robert Adams motor.

As a generator, it is interesting - particularly if you reclaim collapsed field energy - but I cannot see any shaft wobble propelling anything.

I think you should sideline all this space ship stuff and stick to energy generators where they is likely to be more mileage.

We all learn from the past.  However, the key in this case is the timing of the exact pulse to drive the permanent magnet.  Looks like we need to seek more.

Patrick Kelly's Book chapter 2.1 gave a good description of the Adams Motor.  Where else should we look?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3371 on: June 20, 2015, 04:08:45 PM »
SO STOP TALKING AND BUILD SOMETHING, Lawrence. This is more utter nonsense.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3372 on: June 20, 2015, 05:33:11 PM »

Patrick Kelly's Book chapter 2.1 gave a good description of the Adams Motor.  Where else should we look?
On the  next page. That is the key drawing.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3373 on: June 21, 2015, 12:49:01 AM »
On the  next page. That is the key drawing.

The late Robert Adams might not have found the key.  The key, I believe, is the precise moment  to produce the high repulsion.  Patrick Kelly tried to find an alternative to avoid the high precision.  (We did the same stupid thing with the Tong Wheel.)  The 225 HP Pulse Motor did better.

The attached diagram is a familiar experiment done by many researchers.

Why would the same Input of Energy produce over 1,000 times the repulsion force?  Can the recovered Output Energy be more than Input under the appropriate conditions?

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3374 on: June 21, 2015, 10:39:47 AM »
Ninth Design of the Flying Saucer

Since the Magnet in a Donut Tube engineering is difficult, the ninth design makes it easier for the garage mechanic.

1. The normal wheel type arrangement is used.
2. The Magnet is repelled by the Drive Coil to obtain additional energy and velocity.  One or more collectors will drain the energy and slow down the velocity.
3. Starting can be via rotation of the axle.
4. The difference in angular velocity will give higher CF force on top.
5. Net force is upwards.  (Net weight expected to decrease when the unbalanced wheels spins with higher angular velocity at top than at bottom.)

Can a garage mechanic really build such a device?  Will some Hong Kong or China machine shops do it?

Lawrence
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The ninth design is better in the following ways:
1.  There is no need for the permanent magnet to travel at high velocity inside a tube.  There will be no friction nor heat problems.
2.  It is relatively easy to change the permanent magnet that may be rod shaped. It may be clamped or have holes to provide solid mounting.
3.  The arm can be rotated and started by hand.
4.  There is no need for precision engineering of the donut.

There is still the need for precision pulsing to provide the repulsion.  But this may be at a fixed position when the magnet passes.  Let someone suggest such a mechanism...

Open development has its virtues.

Lawrence
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